Will that 4th propel him into being an average qb going forward?

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NO

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he's always been clutch in the 4th.

It took Mitch almost three full quarters for Mitch to remember that he was playing the Lions.

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No, the Lions secondary was down to their last player. Mitch stilled looked like shit the first three quarters.

I love Mitch.

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youre either trolling or insane

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Trying to be optimistic. I think he sucks but maybe something like this can change him for the better.

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No. The Lions had one of the worst defenses in the NFL last year and it looks to be about the same this year. As some have mentioned Mitch has always played well late in games for the most part but it’s the rest of the time where he just doesn’t cut it.


Mitch is a bust at this point -not a complete useless washed out of the league type of bust.. but a bust in the sense that he has not come close to being worth the ‘1st QB chosen in an NFL draft’ status

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Mitch seems to only be able to play if his ass is on fire and he's playing sandlot ball and making the defense do the same. The problem with that is that if you just go hurry up all the time, a couple of consecutive three and outs and your defense is exhausted. That's why run and gun David Klingler type systems have never worked in the NFL.

Mitch is suited to be a backup who can come in at the end of a game and just go nuts and hope for the best.

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I agree mitch only plays his best when the gloves are off. You cant coach this guy. Let him play the way he wants or lose.

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I know. The reason I posted that is because that very sentiment "maybe now he'll get it" has been mentioned after virtually every fool's gold set of drives or whatever near the end of a game for the past 1.5 years. And, every year without fail, the answer has been "no." Nothing changed this year.

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Not just a bad defense, a bad defense basically down to their 3rd string secondary.

And without one of their big free agent pickups after Collins had a brain fart

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Imagine if Matt Nagy had a Super Bowl MVP QB on his team who could actually execute the game plan he wants to run. Just imagine guys!

Mitch has many obvious shortcomings (inaccuracy, inability to read zone defenses, poor mechanics, etc), but it should also be noted that Nagy's game plans are generally awful. Mitch throws very well on the run, yet Nagy rarely calls bootlegs or sprint outs; Mitch is often lethal when he runs the ball, but Nagy rarely calls designed running plays for Mitch; finally, Nagy rarely commits to running the ball and seems unfamiliar with the concept of play-action, which has helped boost the performance of many QBs around the league. Simply put, Nagy is a terrible play-caller.

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Yeah a good coach adjust his offense to what his players do well. Nagy is trying to force players to do what succeeded with players that had a different skill set.

Belichik was running empty Qb sweeps today. Not forcing Cam to run what Brady did.

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If Nagy is simply going to stick to his rigidly defined system, it makes no sense whatsoever to start Mitch since it has been well established that he cannot play well within that system. Change the system or change the QB. There's no reason to play Mitch next week--unless Foles can't execute within the system either. And if that's the case, then the problem is Nagy's system and/or his ability to teach it. Could that be the real reason he backed away from starting Foles?

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It could also be possible Mitch practiced well all camp with no outside pressure then went to shit the first 3.5 quarters when the lights were on. Sometimes people are practice all-stars.

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According to the reports I've heard, neither Foles nor Mitch had very good training camps.

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Yup. It's clear that when (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky gets to go out and play how he wants that he is dangerous. Nagy for some reason wants (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to be a game manager and he isn't good at that. He needs to go out there and make mistakes and big plays.

It drove me crazy last year and it did yesterday that there aren't 5 designed qb runs for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in the first half of every game. Any coach worth anything would realize the strength of a running quarterback in todays game if only to get the defense to have to concentrate on that.

I truly believe that Nagy has wanted (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to fail so he could get "his quarterback" in here who fits whatever system he wants and that's why he cut off the type of play calling that put (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky into the pro bowl even if that only meant he was a league average quarterback.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You are a terrible coach if you insist on a system that your players can’t effectively run. I’m certain Lamar Jackson would be a bust in this system as well.

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Foles had to be dreadful in camp to not win the job. You don't spend a draft pick on a guy to replace your starting quarterback on a rookie deal to make him a backup unless you are trying to hide the fact that your trade was a huge mistake.

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I agree. If the guy you acquired because you were sure he could run your system can't actually run your system, then maybe you and your system are the problem, not the players.

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That's a good comparison. Mitch isn't as talented as Jackson, but he could perform significantly better if Nagy were more flexible. To me, Nagy seems more like a system advocate rather than a fully formed coach or teacher.

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Your theory implies Nagy believes he can deliberately sabotage the team's chances of winning and still get to keep his job. That is asinine. Your Pro Bowl comments is also dishonest as you're well aware of how Trubinsky backed into the Pro Bowl.

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Yeah, yesterday's game plan was deja vu all over again. No QB runs, almost no rollouts or sprint outs, no play-action, etc. Nagy's rigidity is a major shortcoming and calls into question his competence as a coach.

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Do you believe Nagy's game plan for Detroit was a good one given the starting quarterback?

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I'll answer it a different way: you can sprinkle in all the bootlegs, sprints, etc, you want for Trubinsky. At the end of the day, he has to win games from the pocket. I wouldn't say that if his name was LaMar Jackson. While I won't defend Nagy's playcalling, I don't think re-doing the gameplan with that stuff included would have made Trubinsky any more dangerous. Lipstick on a pig.

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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
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Your dislike for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is clouding your judgment. It's OK to admit that Nagy isn't coaching to his quarterback's strengths--and that he doesn't know how to design an effective running game, run play-action, etc. These facts don't necessarily mean (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a good player, but they do suggest that Nagy is an inadequate coach.

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