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It may seem like stupidity here. But there is a genius wrapped around the stupidity.

So get out if you don't like it.

We might all be going to hell. So what? Hell might be fun.

WOAH cowboy. Easy.
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who contributes anything anyway? This is the stupidest corner of the internet ever.


Did someone send you as some kind of intervention or something?

Yes. I'm an angel of mercy sent by God to remind you heathens that you're in danger of your immortal soul.


I could see that.

Not God, but, you know, that we have issues here.

We all have issues, brother. Recognizing it is the trick. Im more full of faults than anyone here, at least in a biblical sense. But I'm having a great time!



Interesting that you capitalize God but not Biblical.

I'm going to pray on that to figure out what that might mean.

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Beardown wrote:
It may seem like stupidity here. But there is a genius wrapped around the stupidity.

So get out if you don't like it.

We might all be going to hell. So what? Hell might be fun.

WOAH cowboy. Easy.
I like it.
Makes me tingly in me naughty bits.

Yeah, you’re totally Keeping Score.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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who contributes anything anyway? This is the stupidest corner of the internet ever.


Did someone send you as some kind of intervention or something?

Yes. I'm an angel of mercy sent by God to remind you heathens that you're in danger of your immortal soul.


I could see that.

Not God, but, you know, that we have issues here.

We all have issues, brother. Recognizing it is the trick. Im more full of faults than anyone here, at least in a biblical sense. But I'm having a great time!



Interesting that you capitalize God but not Biblical.

I'm going to pray on that to figure out what that might mean.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think it means I'm posting from an iPhone.

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Yeah, you’re totally Keeping Score.

I was hoping for Anusface AKA Penisbreath.

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Yeah, you’re totally Keeping Score.

I was hoping for Anusface AKA Penisbreath.

Same/same.

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I actually would fire up the podcast for Anusface AKA Penisbreath.

That dude was mentioned many times during the recordings. I have some questions.

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Ridiculous firing.

People in media bag on people all the time.

Just tonight Deshaies compared somebody to Monty Python. It normally wouldnt'a phased me except I thought fuck, how come nobody is offended by that, yet somebody had to start a shitstorm about this Taylor thing?

This was a silly joke. A harmless tweet on a computer screen that nobody should be phased by. I mean fuck, most people dont even know what AVN stands for (including me) until now.

Anyway, as far as McNeil, this is partly his fault too. If he said this on the air, nobody woulda noticed, nobody woulda cared. Because the only people listening are people who are fans in Chicago and woulda just chuckled it off. Or your co-hosts woulda quickly steered the conversation away from it.

The problem when u put this on social media is u put yourself on an island away from your bubble and now you're vulnerable to some dummy in central Nevada who wants to fuck your career up even though he's never even heard of you.

Why public people post shit on social media is beyond me. The guy is a public figure and can say what he wants on his show. What is he gaining by putting it on social media?

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Ridiculous firing.

People in media bag on people all the time.

Just tonight Deshaies compared somebody to Monty Python. It normally wouldnt'a phased me except I thought fuck, how come nobody is offended by that, yet somebody had to start a shitstorm about this Taylor thing?

This was a silly joke. A harmless tweet on a computer screen that nobody should be phased by. I mean fuck, most people dont even know what AVN stands for (including me) until now.

Anyway, as far as McNeil, this is partly his fault too. If he said this on the air, nobody woulda noticed, nobody woulda cared. Because the only people listening are people who are fans in Chicago and woulda just chuckled it off. Or your co-hosts woulda quickly steered the conversation away from it.

The problem when u put this on social media is u put yourself on an island away from your bubble and now you're vulnerable to some dummy in central Nevada who wants to fuck your career up even though he's never even heard of you.

Why public people post shit on social media is beyond me. The guy is a public figure and can say what he wants on his show. What is he gaining by putting it on social media?


It's not partly his fault. It's entirely his fault.

but others saw it as an opportunity for what they think will advance their careers.

Imagine caring so much about women's issues that you leave several jobs that have a daily, substantive impact on the issue in order to work part time in an ancillary of sports.

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Classy:

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IF THE 16-YEAR-OLD SHEEPDOG -- glassy-eyed, halting of gait, incontinent -- suddenly shuffles into the living room and "does his business," does the family fire faithful ol' Shep?

Or does the question arise -- who allowed the struggling canine into the living room?

No mitigation arose this week at WSCR-AM (670) when ol' Dan McNeil went on Twitter, did his business regarding the "Monday Night Football" attire of ESPN reporter Maria Taylor and was fired.

McNeil was guilty of absolutely nothing out of character or unpredictable.

He was sexist, he was impulsive and he generated a line that in days of yore would have called for backslapping guffaws and a round of Malört's at the old Mill Gate Inn in his native Northwest Indiana.


https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/2020 ... -got-fired

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Classy:

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IF THE 16-YEAR-OLD SHEEPDOG -- glassy-eyed, halting of gait, incontinent -- suddenly shuffles into the living room and "does his business," does the family fire faithful ol' Shep?

Or does the question arise -- who allowed the struggling canine into the living room?

No mitigation arose this week at WSCR-AM (670) when ol' Dan McNeil went on Twitter, did his business regarding the "Monday Night Football" attire of ESPN reporter Maria Taylor and was fired.

McNeil was guilty of absolutely nothing out of character or unpredictable.

He was sexist, he was impulsive and he generated a line that in days of yore would have called for backslapping guffaws and a round of Malört's at the old Mill Gate Inn in his native Northwest Indiana.


https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/2020 ... -got-fired


O'Douchebag has been a long time enemy of 'Der Snore'. He's just a basic piece of shit.

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Classy:

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IF THE 16-YEAR-OLD SHEEPDOG -- glassy-eyed, halting of gait, incontinent -- suddenly shuffles into the living room and "does his business," does the family fire faithful ol' Shep?

Or does the question arise -- who allowed the struggling canine into the living room?

No mitigation arose this week at WSCR-AM (670) when ol' Dan McNeil went on Twitter, did his business regarding the "Monday Night Football" attire of ESPN reporter Maria Taylor and was fired.

McNeil was guilty of absolutely nothing out of character or unpredictable.

He was sexist, he was impulsive and he generated a line that in days of yore would have called for backslapping guffaws and a round of Malört's at the old Mill Gate Inn in his native Northwest Indiana.


https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/2020 ... -got-fired


Interesting. :-|

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Greg Couch who wrote at the SunTimes for years chimes in:




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Don’t get me wrong: McNeil needed to be fired for what he said. But these talkers are paid to run all the way up to the line and push it and say the most outlandish thing without crossing over . . . much. McNeil crossed way over.

This is just what these talkers do. It’s a dance, and they’re paid to be super-aggressive.


:roll: Needed!

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It's funny how much "crossed way over" has changed in twenty years. Now a stupid wisecrack about a leather outfit can get you fired. Back in 2001 Mike North and Fritzy could talk about tearing towels off heads with impunity and Terry Boers could use terms like "mulatto" and "fagula". Mac would have been better off looting and burning a Louis Vuitton store.

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By 2006 Fritzy was banned for life for saying "flim-flam artists."

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One thing I have learned from this fiasco is that Chicago sports media is full of burritos.

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By 2006 Fritzy was banned for life for saying "flim-flam artists."


I vaguely remember he was banned. What was the story?

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I think that pretty much is the story. Mike North's beer-distributor friend had a weekly spot on the terrible morning show and one time he said something about flim-flamming in reference to some Jewish businessmen, so management banned him. I'll google it and edit an article in if I can find one.

EDIT: it was worse than I remembered
https://www.allaccess.com/net-news/arch ... rning-show
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A joke about Jews has led to the dismissal of one of INFINITY Sports WSCR-A (670 THE SCORE)/CHICAGO morning man MIKE NORTH's regular guests.

The CHICAGO SUN-TIMES' ROBERT FEDER reports that FRITZY KONSTANTELOS has been fired from his unpaid weekly "FRITZY'S NIGHT ON THE TOWN" segment after an OCTOBER 13 (YOM KIPPUR) appearance on which he referred to Jews who "go to temple for two hours, atone for their sins and then go right out flim-flamming again." KONSTANTELOS, who has been appearing on his friend's show for over a decade, was pulled from the air over NORTH's reported objections by PD MITCH ROSEN, who said that the station "felt in the best interest of our advertisers and our listeners that this was the proper action to take."

KONSTANTELOS told FEDER that he was "unjustifiably fired... MIKE and I make comments about all kinds of people all the time. But I know what I said was not meant to be malicious."

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By 2006 Fritzy was banned for life for saying "flim-flam artists."


No action was taken against him, however, shortly after 9/11 when he threatened to use a baseball bat to assault "a bunch of goofy-looking Muslims with the towels on their heads when they're walking down Devon Avenue like they've got nothing to be sorry about."

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Curious Hair wrote:
By 2006 Fritzy was banned for life for saying "flim-flam artists."


No action was taken against him, however, shortly after 9/11 when he threatened to use a baseball bat to assault "a bunch of goofy-looking Muslims with the towels on their heads when they're walking down Devon Avenue like they've got nothing to be sorry about."


was that wrong ?
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What many people don't know is that Julie actually put the barf towel on her head to protest Fritzy.

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Curious Hair wrote:
By 2006 Fritzy was banned for life for saying "flim-flam artists."


No action was taken against him, however, shortly after 9/11 when he threatened to use a baseball bat to assault "a bunch of goofy-looking Muslims with the towels on their heads when they're walking down Devon Avenue like they've got nothing to be sorry about."


Fitzy's Night on the Town is likely the worse segment from the pre-Goff era. A lot of people got away with things on 9/11. Howard Stern called for nuking every Muslim country in the world and turning them into parking lots.

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Fitzy's Night on the Town is likely the worse segment from the pre-Goff era.

"Who's Been Taking Hits Off Michael Phelps's Bong?"

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Fitzy's Night on the Town is likely the worse segment from the pre-Goff era.


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Curious Hair wrote:
I think that pretty much is the story. Mike North's beer-distributor friend had a weekly spot on the terrible morning show and one time he said something about flim-flamming in reference to some Jewish businessmen, so management banned him. I'll google it and edit an article in if I can find one.

EDIT: it was worse than I remembered
https://www.allaccess.com/net-news/arch ... rning-show
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A joke about Jews has led to the dismissal of one of INFINITY Sports WSCR-A (670 THE SCORE)/CHICAGO morning man MIKE NORTH's regular guests.

The CHICAGO SUN-TIMES' ROBERT FEDER reports that FRITZY KONSTANTELOS has been fired from his unpaid weekly "FRITZY'S NIGHT ON THE TOWN" segment after an OCTOBER 13 (YOM KIPPUR) appearance on which he referred to Jews who "go to temple for two hours, atone for their sins and then go right out flim-flamming again." KONSTANTELOS, who has been appearing on his friend's show for over a decade, was pulled from the air over NORTH's reported objections by PD MITCH ROSEN, who said that the station "felt in the best interest of our advertisers and our listeners that this was the proper action to take."

KONSTANTELOS told FEDER that he was "unjustifiably fired... MIKE and I make comments about all kinds of people all the time. But I know what I said was not meant to be malicious."


There is a lot there to laugh at. North objected. And Fritzy referred to it a a firing. For an unpaid segment.

Here is a profile of Fritzy in the Chicago Reader:

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North says, "I met Fritzy in high school. It's really nothin' to brag about, but I guess since we made it we can--we dropped out on the same day. Senn High School, over here on the north side. We didn't care about school--he'd go to the track, I'd go to the beach. We lost touch of each other in our 20s--he got married, he had some other things goin' on, he was goin' through wife after wife after wife. I was just tryin' to keep my head above water, pickin' up paper for the Park District, makin' a coupla hundred a week. Then, when I started at the Score, I was goin' downtown, and for the last eight, nine years we've been very, very close."


https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/f ... oid=901602

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What many people don't know is that Julie actually put the barf towel on her head to protest Fritzy.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
I think that pretty much is the story. Mike North's beer-distributor friend had a weekly spot on the terrible morning show and one time he said something about flim-flamming in reference to some Jewish businessmen, so management banned him. I'll google it and edit an article in if I can find one.

EDIT: it was worse than I remembered
https://www.allaccess.com/net-news/arch ... rning-show
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A joke about Jews has led to the dismissal of one of INFINITY Sports WSCR-A (670 THE SCORE)/CHICAGO morning man MIKE NORTH's regular guests.

The CHICAGO SUN-TIMES' ROBERT FEDER reports that FRITZY KONSTANTELOS has been fired from his unpaid weekly "FRITZY'S NIGHT ON THE TOWN" segment after an OCTOBER 13 (YOM KIPPUR) appearance on which he referred to Jews who "go to temple for two hours, atone for their sins and then go right out flim-flamming again." KONSTANTELOS, who has been appearing on his friend's show for over a decade, was pulled from the air over NORTH's reported objections by PD MITCH ROSEN, who said that the station "felt in the best interest of our advertisers and our listeners that this was the proper action to take."

KONSTANTELOS told FEDER that he was "unjustifiably fired... MIKE and I make comments about all kinds of people all the time. But I know what I said was not meant to be malicious."


There is a lot there to laugh at. North objected. And Fritzy referred to it a a firing. For an unpaid segment.

Here is a profile of Fritzy in the Chicago Reader:

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North says, "I met Fritzy in high school. It's really nothin' to brag about, but I guess since we made it we can--we dropped out on the same day. Senn High School, over here on the north side. We didn't care about school--he'd go to the track, I'd go to the beach. We lost touch of each other in our 20s--he got married, he had some other things goin' on, he was goin' through wife after wife after wife. I was just tryin' to keep my head above water, pickin' up paper for the Park District, makin' a coupla hundred a week. Then, when I started at the Score, I was goin' downtown, and for the last eight, nine years we've been very, very close."


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I will say the "we hate lots of kinds of people" defense is an interesting one.

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