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Yes. That was insane.

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That's what struck me about that throw. He released it before the guy had even cut inside.

I'm sure they practice that all the time but he was under pressure and still hit the guy 60-yards downfield on the hands in stride.

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GOAT

He's very talented, let's leave it at that.

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I have a friend who is a Broncos fan that cannot admit Mahomes’ greatness either.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:20 pm 
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I have a friend who is a Broncos fan that cannot admit Mahomes’ greatness either.

:lol: Sounds like your friend is a moron.

But that has nothing to with what constitutes GOAT status.

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Classic Jbills. The glass isn't half full...it's filled to the brim with bottomless optimism and positivity.

Jbills: Batman 18.5 is the best movie in the history of modern cinema
Guy: But dude, it's not even out yet. No one has seen it. It's not even filming yet. Wait, there's not even a script for it.
Jbills: it's okay. My dad can't admit that it's pretty awesome too.



We're the complete opposite. Makes for interesting exchanges.

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Yeah I’m overly optimistic sometimes.

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Jbi11s Loses Faith in Rationality.

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He’s the GOAT in my eyes.

Maybe I’m alone on this take.

That’s fine.

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He's absolutely great, but GOAT requires transcendent, sustained greatness.

For quite.some time, I thought Jeff George had the greatest arm I'd ever seen and thought I was alone in that line of thinking. He was certainly not a great, let alone good QB. Mahomes has it all, and I'm going to have to watch him year after year after year.

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Jbi11s wrote:



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But (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky led a comeback against the Lions

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He's absolutely great, but GOAT requires transcendent, sustained greatness.

For quite.some time, I thought Jeff George had the greatest arm I'd ever seen and thought I was alone in that line of thinking. He was certainly not a great, let alone good QB. Mahomes has it all, and I'm going to have to watch him year after year after year.


Mahomes' career vs Jeff George's first 4 years in Indy..

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate
Career 34 34 27-7-0 806 1220 66.1 10310 85 7.0 18 1.5 506 89 8.5 9.2 12.8 303.2 109.4

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate
4 yrs IND 52 49 14-35-0 874 1532 57.0 9551 41 2.7 46 3.0 75 6.2 5.4 10.9 183.7 72.0

[EDIT] Sorry, that came out like shit. In 34 GS vs 49 for George, Mahomes has more than double the TDs (85 vs 41), more passing yds on 300 fewer pass attempts, and 18 INTs vs George's 46. Completion Pct of 66.1 vs 57.0. Passer rating of 109.4 vs 72.0.


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Even tho that’s formatting from hell, I agree there is no comparison.

I thought Furious had morphed into Jason Whitlock.

Unfortunately, I have a bad cold, and didn’t have the fire & passion to argue about it.

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It has nothing to do with performance or stats. Just the eye test of how George threw the ball.

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For quite.some time, I thought Jeff George had the greatest arm I'd ever seen and thought I was alone in that line of thinking.


You weren't. I agree with that. I watched him in person many times. He was ridiculous with arm strength.

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Furious Styles wrote:
It has nothing to do with performance or stats. Just the eye test of how George threw the ball.


I am with you. Maybe Cunningham or Moon are close but I was in awe of George’s gun.

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I remember Marino and Fouts being very strong but not that.

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I remember Marino and Fouts being very strong but not that.


My thought on Marino was just that his release was crazy quick. I never thought of him as having a superior arm. It was certainly above average but I think the fact he could release it so quickly made it seem faster.

But, for pure arm strength, I think about Cunningham, like pittmike said, Vick was crazy, so was George.

I'm not old enough to have seen Bobby Douglass. Vince Evans had a hell of an arm.

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Doc is right. I remember some Dolphin fan lost his shit when I shared my thoughts on George.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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I remember Marino and Fouts being very strong but not that.


My thought on Marino was just that his release was crazy quick. I never thought of him as having a superior arm. It was certainly above average but I think the fact he could release it so quickly made it seem faster.

But, for pure arm strength, I think about Cunningham, like pittmike said, Vick was crazy, so was George.

I'm not old enough to have seen Bobby Douglass. Vince Evans had a hell of an arm.

Favre / Elway?

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Sure, Hawg. I have a meeting in 10 minutes.

I didn't feel like making a complete list. But they would be on there also.

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Sure, Hawg. I have a meeting in 10 minutes.

I didn't feel like making a complete list. But they would be on there also.

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Young Rodgers had the best balance of arm strength and accuracy I’d seen before Mahomes.

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What about them, Hawg?

Make your case. Just don't blurt out names.

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