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I'm fine with the Create A Player guy.


Don't trade up, don't come away from tonight with LaMelo Ball. If those two things don't happen I won't be upset with whatever else they do.

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I'm fine with the Create A Player guy.


Don't trade up, don't come away from tonight with LaMelo Ball. If those two things don't happen I won't be upset with whatever else they do.

THat is pretty much where I am as well. I dont want them to trade up. I would be happy trading down. I am going to trust this new guy and see what he can do.

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with the 4th pick Avdija trade Lavine to the Cavs for Thompson and their pick and take Toppin

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League sources say the Warriors are weighing whether to accept a trade offered by the Bulls that would send Chicago their no. 2 overall pick for Wendell Carter Jr. and the fourth pick. If the Bulls trade up, sources believe they’ll select Wiseman.

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You can't teach height. I think it's a little absurd to trade Wendell AND #4 to just move up 2 spots but if they can get Wiseman, fuck it. You can't teach 7'1". That's your fucking Center. Not some 6'9" dude who misses a few months every season.


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You can't teach height. I think it's a little absurd to trade Wendell AND #4 to just move up 2 spots but if they can get Wiseman, fuck it. You can't teach 7'1". That's your fucking Center. Not some 6'9" dude who misses a few months every season.

I don’t know if Wiseman is good or not but I truly hope the FO isn’t concerned about height primarily. Give me a skilled 6’9’’ guy over a 7’1” stiff any day.

I agree that if Wendell only plays 40 games a year going forward the trade might be worth it. That seems very unlikely.

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You can't teach height. I think it's a little absurd to trade Wendell AND #4 to just move up 2 spots but if they can get Wiseman, fuck it. You can't teach 7'1". That's your fucking Center. Not some 6'9" dude who misses a few months every season.

I don’t know if Wiseman is good or not but I truly hope the FO isn’t concerned about height primarily. Give me a skilled 6’9’’ guy over a 7’1” stiff any day.

I agree that if Wendell only plays 40 games a year going forward the trade might be worth it. That seems very unlikely.


He's not a 7'1" stiff though, he's pretty explosive (for a man his size). I think there's a reason Wiseman was the #1 recruit in the country.


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Wiseman will be great. IN DUE TIME!

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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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You can't teach height. I think it's a little absurd to trade Wendell AND #4 to just move up 2 spots but if they can get Wiseman, fuck it. You can't teach 7'1". That's your fucking Center. Not some 6'9" dude who misses a few months every season.

I don’t know if Wiseman is good or not but I truly hope the FO isn’t concerned about height primarily. Give me a skilled 6’9’’ guy over a 7’1” stiff any day.

I agree that if Wendell only plays 40 games a year going forward the trade might be worth it. That seems very unlikely.


He's not a 7'1" stiff though, he's pretty explosive (for a man his size). I think there's a reason Wiseman was the #1 recruit in the country.

We have no idea what he will be. NBA history is littered with top 5 big man draft picks who became stiffs.

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FavreFan wrote:
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You can't teach height. I think it's a little absurd to trade Wendell AND #4 to just move up 2 spots but if they can get Wiseman, fuck it. You can't teach 7'1". That's your fucking Center. Not some 6'9" dude who misses a few months every season.

I don’t know if Wiseman is good or not but I truly hope the FO isn’t concerned about height primarily. Give me a skilled 6’9’’ guy over a 7’1” stiff any day.

I agree that if Wendell only plays 40 games a year going forward the trade might be worth it. That seems very unlikely.


He's not a 7'1" stiff though, he's pretty explosive (for a man his size). I think there's a reason Wiseman was the #1 recruit in the country.

We have no idea what he will be. NBA history is littered with top 5 big man draft picks who became stiffs.

I read a great draft preview that noted wiseman ‘has the potential to develop a jump shot.’

So it’s possible - nay, plausible - he may some day work on being effective in the modern nba. Sign me up.

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Nothing beats NBA draft previews. I still remember I think it was Jay Bilas who said Bargnani had "a solid chance to become a solid pro". Definitely encouraging for the 1st overall pick in the draft!

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Nothing beats NBA draft previews. I still remember I think it was Jay Bilas who said Bargnani had "a solid chance to become a solid pro". Definitely encouraging for the 1st overall pick in the draft!

Have you seen his wingspan?

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FavreFan wrote:
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
You can't teach height. I think it's a little absurd to trade Wendell AND #4 to just move up 2 spots but if they can get Wiseman, fuck it. You can't teach 7'1". That's your fucking Center. Not some 6'9" dude who misses a few months every season.

I don’t know if Wiseman is good or not but I truly hope the FO isn’t concerned about height primarily. Give me a skilled 6’9’’ guy over a 7’1” stiff any day.

I agree that if Wendell only plays 40 games a year going forward the trade might be worth it. That seems very unlikely.


He's not a 7'1" stiff though, he's pretty explosive (for a man his size). I think there's a reason Wiseman was the #1 recruit in the country.

We have no idea what he will be. NBA history is littered with top 5 big man draft picks who became stiffs.


You're right. Nobody knows what he'll be. I watched 0 James Wiseman games this year, thanks to Penny Hardaway.

We know he's not a stiff though. You can spend 5 minutes on YouTube and see his footwork, speed, athleticism, etc.


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Nothing beats NBA draft previews. I still remember I think it was Jay Bilas who said Bargnani had "a solid chance to become a solid pro". Definitely encouraging for the 1st overall pick in the draft!

Who was the Chinese guy who dominated his predraft work outs against a stationary chair?

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Nothing beats NBA draft previews. I still remember I think it was Jay Bilas who said Bargnani had "a solid chance to become a solid pro". Definitely encouraging for the 1st overall pick in the draft!

Who was the Chinese guy who dominated his predraft work outs against a stationary chair?


Who is Yi Jianlian, Alex?


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Nothing beats NBA draft previews. I still remember I think it was Jay Bilas who said Bargnani had "a solid chance to become a solid pro". Definitely encouraging for the 1st overall pick in the draft!

Who was the Chinese guy who dominated his predraft work outs against a stationary chair?

Chairman Yi!

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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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Nothing beats NBA draft previews. I still remember I think it was Jay Bilas who said Bargnani had "a solid chance to become a solid pro". Definitely encouraging for the 1st overall pick in the draft!

Who was the Chinese guy who dominated his predraft work outs against a stationary chair?


Who is Yi Jianlian, Alex?


https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1406250

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Chris Mannix of The Vertical confirmed that Yi did indeed run drills around a chair. Mannix explained that it didn't quite make sense for Yi to work out against collegiate players who were more advanced in their development, so he conducted a solo workout that involved a folding chair.

However, contrary to the story that circulated later, Mannix said he didn't see Yi try any post moves or dribble around the chair as if it were an actual human defending him. It was merely a prop that served as a screener in a shooting drill, according to Mannix.

Nevertheless, the story of Yi and the chair took on a life of its own and ultimately became the punch line to jokes about his disappointing career. He only averaged 7.9 points per game on 40.4 percent shooting in five seasons before returning to China.


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League is loaded with big men what will this guy be a top 6-10?

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Wendell doesn't want to play Center. Give me a Markkanen/Wiseman front court please.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2020/3/31/21201252/player-breakdowns-bulls-wendell-carter-jr-position-change


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Pace advised the Bulls to trade the 4th pick and future lottery protected first round pick to the Cavs for the 5th pick.

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Pace advised the Bulls to trade the 4th pick and future lottery protected first round pick to the Cavs for the 5th pick.

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Pace advised the Bulls to trade the 4th pick and future lottery protected first round pick to the Cavs for the 5th pick.

Said earlier in the top secret FB chat that there are big Ryan Pace vibes around trading Wendell/#4 for #2 and getting a guy you probably could have had at 4 anyway.

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Pace advised the Bulls to trade the 4th pick and future lottery protected first round pick to the Cavs for the 5th pick.

Said earlier in the top secret FB chat that there are big Ryan Pace vibes around trading Wendell/#4 for #2 and getting a guy you probably could have had at 4 anyway.


I saw a story on that as well and the first thing I thought about was Pace. Isn't this like a horrible draft anyway? Who the fuck are you gonna get at 2 that's appreciably better than the guy at 4? And if carter was in this draft wouldn't he be a top 5 lock anyway? :lol:

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Pace advised the Bulls to trade the 4th pick and future lottery protected first round pick to the Cavs for the 5th pick.

Said earlier in the top secret FB chat that there are big Ryan Pace vibes around trading Wendell/#4 for #2 and getting a guy you probably could have had at 4 anyway.


If they trade for 2 and do not take Wisemen, I will already be done with AK.

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Pace advised the Bulls to trade the 4th pick and future lottery protected first round pick to the Cavs for the 5th pick.

Said earlier in the top secret FB chat that there are big Ryan Pace vibes around trading Wendell/#4 for #2 and getting a guy you probably could have had at 4 anyway.


If they trade for 2 and do not take Wisemen, I will already be done with AK.

That's fair.

I said when he was hired I want to give AK the benefit of the doubt and give him like a 1.5-2 year grace period before bitching that he sucks but if he gives up Wendell to move up two spots, or drafts Ball at all tonight, that's gonna already test my patience.


Bulls made some very Anti-Reinsdorf moves this summer handing the car keys to a total outsider and then actually hiring a coach who has coached before so I think some optimism and patience are warranted a bit.

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Pace advised the Bulls to trade the 4th pick and future lottery protected first round pick to the Cavs for the 5th pick.

Said earlier in the top secret FB chat that there are big Ryan Pace vibes around trading Wendell/#4 for #2 and getting a guy you probably could have had at 4 anyway.


If they trade for 2 and do not take Wisemen, I will already be done with AK.

Same here, unless the Israeli kid I think they want turns into a baller.

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Pace advised the Bulls to trade the 4th pick and future lottery protected first round pick to the Cavs for the 5th pick.

Said earlier in the top secret FB chat that there are big Ryan Pace vibes around trading Wendell/#4 for #2 and getting a guy you probably could have had at 4 anyway.


If they trade for 2 and do not take Wisemen, I will already be done with AK.

Same here, unless the Israeli kid I think they want turns into a baller.


I think anyone besides Ball or the sixth man from Florida St Patrcik Williams is fine. Avdija will be there at 4. If they trade up for him it is a total Pace move.

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Maybe Jim Boylen is still making the calls? Cowley has no sources at this point.

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Pace advised the Bulls to trade the 4th pick and future lottery protected first round pick to the Cavs for the 5th pick.

Said earlier in the top secret FB chat that there are big Ryan Pace vibes around trading Wendell/#4 for #2 and getting a guy you probably could have had at 4 anyway.


If they trade for 2 and do not take Wisemen, I will already be done with AK.

That's fair.

I said when he was hired I want to give AK the benefit of the doubt and give him like a 1.5-2 year grace period before bitching that he sucks but if he gives up Wendell to move up two spots, or drafts Ball at all tonight, that's gonna already test my patience.


Bulls made some very Anti-Reinsdorf moves this summer handing the car keys to a total outsider and then actually hiring a coach who has coached before so I think some optimism and patience are warranted a bit.

Ball is going to be the best player in this draft.

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