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Beating your ass in the Cubs section. It hurts being this good.

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Beating your ass in the Cubs section. It hurts being this good.


This worse then your attempts to shit on the Packers while being a Bears fan.

You had one of the worst teams in baseball for over a decade and made the playoffs last year due to going 21-3 vs the Tigers, Pirates and Royals and 14-22 vs teams that were trying.

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Beating your ass in the Cubs section. It hurts being this good.

Frank has Conns on the run!


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Why are people surprised? You should be happy we dumped the majority of his contract. Yu isn't even a leader who can teach the young guys to win. The rebuild is on! Man up, Cubs fans!

PS: It's pathetic how Bernstein and Parkins slobber all over Theo's dick. He's like their sports Obama


They seem to forget that Theo spent a lot of money on players who way underperformed. Theo did the same thing in Boston as well.

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Beating your ass in the Cubs section. It hurts being this good.


This worse then your attempts to shit on the Packers while being a Bears fan.

You had one of the worst teams in baseball for over a decade and made the playoffs last year due to going 21-3 vs the Tigers, Pirates and Royals and 14-22 vs teams that were trying.

What do the Packers and White Sox have to do with the Cubs getting swept out of the playoffs three times over the last five years?

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Sustained investment in payroll and sustained excellence are 2 different things. The Cubs have been cursed with horrible player evaluation. Hopefully it will end now that Theo is gone. Bernstein now making Ricketts the villian. If Rickets is a villian it's that he gave Theo free reign and didn't override his franchise wrecking ball worst moves.


Yep. Horrible drafting and little development of drafted players, plus overspending on guys all contributed to the current situation. If Theo is such a phenom as a baseball GM/VP, why doesn't the Cubs system churn out players like the Cardinals and Dodgers?

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Poor is what you do in attempting to troll Sox fans. You have started more Sox threads over the last three years than I ever have. Fact.


And yet here you are in the Cubs section today.

Cubs going the poor small market route certainly is newsworthy

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2016 Cubs were the best team in baseball that year. Of course it seemed like everyone they beat sucked because they were the best.

But ya, Frank C. raped Conns here big time.


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remember when this cub centric media told us time and again about the multiple streams of revenue, as if any of them had the ability to scrutinize the financials? People like Bruce Levine pretending to know anything beyond what occurs on the field of play is comical. Bernstein heard a few business phrases he could use as a crutch because he had no idea what he was talking about.


It was a big con. Thats what it was. I was skeptical back when they said it, but now every Cub fan has been part of a huge con w/ the streams of revenue and waves of talent bullshit. The worst is chicubs reddit. the most ignorant cub fans to ever walk the earth reside there.

Ricketts is turning out to be a real bad business man. Wasn't it his father who made the billions and the kids are the ones who are living off his wealth?

He was naive to think he could come into the city and put one over on the politicians. Well, they showed who the professional cons are in Chicago big time!

Did that stupid hotel ever get built? fucking worst idea ever.


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FrankDrebin wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
Sustained investment in payroll and sustained excellence are 2 different things. The Cubs have been cursed with horrible player evaluation. Hopefully it will end now that Theo is gone. Bernstein now making Ricketts the villian. If Rickets is a villian it's that he gave Theo free reign and didn't override his franchise wrecking ball worst moves.


Yep. Horrible drafting and little development of drafted players, plus overspending on guys all contributed to the current situation. If Theo is such a phenom as a baseball GM/VP, why doesn't the Cubs system churn out players like the Cardinals and Dodgers?


Theo's run was a tank period followed by a very good stretch. Hendry's teams were more randomly successful (i.e., on/off/on/off). In totality, Hendry had the same number of 1st place division finishes in the 9 years previous to Theo's 9, and averaged 81 wins vs 84. But Epstein ended the curse, so he'll get the praise.

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FrankDrebin wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
Sustained investment in payroll and sustained excellence are 2 different things. The Cubs have been cursed with horrible player evaluation. Hopefully it will end now that Theo is gone. Bernstein now making Ricketts the villian. If Rickets is a villian it's that he gave Theo free reign and didn't override his franchise wrecking ball worst moves.


Yep. Horrible drafting and little development of drafted players, plus overspending on guys all contributed to the current situation. If Theo is such a phenom as a baseball GM/VP, why doesn't the Cubs system churn out players like the Cardinals and Dodgers?


Theo's run was a tank period followed by a very good stretch. Hendry's teams were more randomly successful (i.e., on/off/on/off). In totality, Hendry had the same number of 1st place division finishes in the 9 years previous to Theo's 9, and averaged 81 wins vs 84. But Epstein ended the curse, so he'll get the praise.


And Ricketts should also get praise for hiring Theo and allowing him (at least in the first few years) to spend on big free agents.

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Beating your ass in the Cubs section. It hurts being this good.

Frank has Conns on the run!


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FrankDrebin wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
Sustained investment in payroll and sustained excellence are 2 different things. The Cubs have been cursed with horrible player evaluation. Hopefully it will end now that Theo is gone. Bernstein now making Ricketts the villian. If Rickets is a villian it's that he gave Theo free reign and didn't override his franchise wrecking ball worst moves.


Yep. Horrible drafting and little development of drafted players, plus overspending on guys all contributed to the current situation. If Theo is such a phenom as a baseball GM/VP, why doesn't the Cubs system churn out players like the Cardinals and Dodgers?


you have to be fair to Theo on the development/evaluation side and note how many of his prospects are all star level players for other organizations. They made trades to win a world series. I respect that even when it comes back to bite.

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Wittenmyer: Yu Darvish trade embarrassing for big-market Cubs, MLB

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FrankDrebin wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
Sustained investment in payroll and sustained excellence are 2 different things. The Cubs have been cursed with horrible player evaluation. Hopefully it will end now that Theo is gone. Bernstein now making Ricketts the villian. If Rickets is a villian it's that he gave Theo free reign and didn't override his franchise wrecking ball worst moves.


Yep. Horrible drafting and little development of drafted players, plus overspending on guys all contributed to the current situation. If Theo is such a phenom as a baseball GM/VP, why doesn't the Cubs system churn out players like the Cardinals and Dodgers?


you have to be fair to Theo on the development/evaluation side and note how many of his prospects are all star level players for other organizations. They made trades to win a world series. I respect that even when it comes back to bite.


No problem with the Chapman trade and what they gave up. But the inability to draft starting pitching is what killed them.

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Sustained investment in payroll and sustained excellence are 2 different things. The Cubs have been cursed with horrible player evaluation. Hopefully it will end now that Theo is gone. Bernstein now making Ricketts the villian. If Rickets is a villian it's that he gave Theo free reign and didn't override his franchise wrecking ball worst moves.


Yep. Horrible drafting and little development of drafted players, plus overspending on guys all contributed to the current situation. If Theo is such a phenom as a baseball GM/VP, why doesn't the Cubs system churn out players like the Cardinals and Dodgers?


you have to be fair to Theo on the development/evaluation side and note how many of his prospects are all star level players for other organizations. They made trades to win a world series. I respect that even when it comes back to bite.


No problem with the Chapman trade and what they gave up. But the inability to draft starting pitching is what killed them.

it's not just drafting, it's their development. Dylan Cease had some interesting tidbits during his Barstool interview. He talked about how the Cubs minor league system stunted his growth by not letting him throw or work on his breaking pitches. The Sox changed that with him.

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Yes, the Dylan Cease with a 1.44 WHIP last year. He has it all figured out now.


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Yes, the Dylan Cease with a 1.44 WHIP last year. He has it all figured out now.


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Trading Darvish was a good idea.

They fucked it up and forced it though. Bad trade and bad things on the horizon for the Cubs and the next few years.

Hopefully one or even two of these lottery tickets hit in some way, but Tom Ricketts is no longer interested in winning. That much is clear.


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Wittenmyer: Yu Darvish trade embarrassing for big-market Cubs, MLB

https://sports.yahoo.com/wittenmyer-yu- ... 59516.html


Gordon has had a hard-on for the Cubs for a long time, but he really went scorched earth.

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Yes, the Dylan Cease with a 1.44 WHIP last year. He has it all figured out now.

it's as if the Sox have to unfuck what the Cubs did to him in the minors.

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FrankDrebin wrote:
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Sustained investment in payroll and sustained excellence are 2 different things. The Cubs have been cursed with horrible player evaluation. Hopefully it will end now that Theo is gone. Bernstein now making Ricketts the villian. If Rickets is a villian it's that he gave Theo free reign and didn't override his franchise wrecking ball worst moves.


Yep. Horrible drafting and little development of drafted players, plus overspending on guys all contributed to the current situation. If Theo is such a phenom as a baseball GM/VP, why doesn't the Cubs system churn out players like the Cardinals and Dodgers?


you have to be fair to Theo on the development/evaluation side and note how many of his prospects are all star level players for other organizations. They made trades to win a world series. I respect that even when it comes back to bite.


No problem with the Chapman trade and what they gave up. But the inability to draft starting pitching is what killed them.

it's not just drafting, it's their development. Dylan Cease had some interesting tidbits during his Barstool interview. He talked about how the Cubs minor league system stunted his growth by not letting him throw or work on his breaking pitches. The Sox changed that with him.

His stock has gone down since the Sox acquired him.


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Trading Darvish was a good idea.

They fucked it up and forced it though. Bad trade and bad things on the horizon for the Cubs and the next few years.

Hopefully one or even two of these lottery tickets hit in some way, but Tom Ricketts is no longer interested in winning. That much is clear.


Yeah I wish I could argue against this but it seems pretty clear.

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Yes, the Dylan Cease with a 1.44 WHIP last year. He has it all figured out now.

it's as if the Sox have to unfuck what the Cubs did to him in the minors.

Yes, we will all wait with bated breath as the team that developed pitching studs like Carlos Rodon, Carson Fulmer and Reynoldo Lopez magically "unfucks" Dylan Cease.


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Wittenmyer: Yu Darvish trade embarrassing for big-market Cubs, MLB

https://sports.yahoo.com/wittenmyer-yu- ... 59516.html


Gordon has had a hard-on for the Cubs for a long time, but he really went scorched earth.

Gordon is basically Ogie when it comes to baseball. He hates Ricketts on general terms, and would be much happier if he could just not cover them but still get paid. He's a miserable cretin.

So when he's actually correct, like now, it's like the boy who cried wolf.

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The Sox busted one of the most sure fire pitching prospects in recent memory, Rodon. Pure comedy in this thread


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Pure comedy in this thread
I, too, laughed heartily at the return the Cubs got for one of the best pitchers in the NL over the last 18 months.

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I, too, laughed heartily at the return the Cubs got for one of the best pitchers in the NL over the last 18 months.


It is a good laugh. Almost as funny as LaRussa's BAC higher than Moncada's batting average.


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Remember in 2018 we couldn't wait to get rid of Darvish.


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