because it won't be in early April

I'm going to be pessimistic and say Memorial Day weekend.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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August 18th.

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June 4

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April 16th

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May 1st

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

37 states

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May 28.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

Has to be May doesnt it? Surely there will be packed and unmasked crowds in the stands then.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

July 23rd

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4/20

If that is even close to the case then heads should roll and no fan should support their team by going to games or spending a dollar. NFL, NBA, and NHL can have things somewhat normal and MLB can't? GTFO with that shit

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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Owners are trying to stall out until end of CBA. They'll push as much as they can. Maybe not that late but wouldn't surprise me.

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nightengale quoted some anonymous owner saying it could be as little as half a season

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Yeah I have seem some of that mess. If that is the case then they are asking to have another situation where they drive people away from the game.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

After the players were offered a good deal and they turned it down last year I don't think it's out of the question that the players are happy to wait it out as long as possible to "send a message".

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Why ?

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Happens every time the Sox are knocking on the door

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I have to assume that the players are once again sticking to the idea that even if no fans are in attendance they should get the same paycheck. They have that right but the owners then have the right to play far less games to lose less money.

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There is zero reason to have empty stadiums. Zero.

Capacity at 10%, 20%, 40%, masks, no masks, whatever. People that want to abide with the distancing and mask rules that are likely to be in place should have the option to do so at ALL MLB stadiums this season.

Saying "no fans" is gutless and way more harmful than the 0.003% risk you run at catching Covid at a ballgame would be.

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They put up nets for similar odds that youll be hurt by a baseball.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I think you would be at a much higher risk of injury or death by sitting down near the front row along the baseline with no net than you would at contracting Covid with a stadium at 20% capacity.

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I agree with you but it seems like stadiums having fans is last on the list to get back everywhere.

California forced the Rose Bowl to be played in Texas because they wouldn't let players families be in the stands.

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Memorial Day Weekend...sometime between Thursday and Monday.

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@audioidkid

That's not true, because there are MANY stadiums that are allowing at least some fans to attend. Even the LCS and World Series in October had some fans. About half of the NFL teams had some fans as well.

Full attendance, yes is going to be last or very near last on the list. Partial attendance can and should be done right now.

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California, New York, and Illinois have 9 teams. They are all unlikely to have fans in attendance at the normal start of the season. I would guess there are other states that would also not allow it. Places like Texas and Florida will have fans though. It wouldn't surprise me if half the teams can't have fans for a while.

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It wouldn't surprise me either, but there is zero reason for it. Especially for football since those buildings are huge.

A smaller park like Wrigley could present some challenges but even then you can't tell me that allowing 6,000 stupid Cubs fans in to watch the game is unsafe.

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Or as we like to say, double the amount that watch the Sox.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I think the owners also see it as an opportunity to skip the low attendance month of April while also not having to pay the players.

Nightengale also quoted the owner as saying there is a zero percent chance spring training and opening day start on time so a reduced season isn't speculation, but a certainty.

It would suck to be a FA this year. There is a very real possibility you wouldn't see a true market rate contract for two years.

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If I wanted a joke, I'd follow you into the john and watch you take a leak.

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if they have another 60 game season that will be complete bullshit.