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The Bears will give up several picks for Watson. Then Watson will prob get hurt again and be basically done.

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Who needs first round picks anyway.


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The Bears will give up several picks for Watson. Then Watson will prob get hurt again and be basically done.

All the while (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky proves he is "Tom Brady but mobile" in New England.

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The Bears will give up several picks for Watson. Then Watson will prob get hurt again and be basically done.

All the while (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky proves he is "Tom Brady but mobile" in New England.

:lol: sounds right

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Who’s this Jackson Carman guy from Clemson?

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Can't wait to see Mitch on the Patriots practice squad next year LOL it's funny how FarveFan and others think Bill Belichick is hot for Mitch.


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Can't wait to see Mitch on the Patriots practice squad next year LOL it's funny how FarveFan and others think Bill Belichick is hot for Mitch.



I said it first here. And I stand by it.

There are coaches that can tailor an entire team to what best suits their talents.

Matt Nagy can't even get out of his own way.

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blackhawksfan wrote:
Can't wait to see Mitch on the Patriots practice squad next year LOL it's funny how FarveFan and others think Bill Belichick is hot for Mitch.



I said it first here. And I stand by it.

There are coaches that can tailor an entire team to what best suits their talents.

Matt Nagy can't even get out of his own way.


Bill did a great job of doing it with Newton :lol:


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Seacrest wrote:
blackhawksfan wrote:
Can't wait to see Mitch on the Patriots practice squad next year LOL it's funny how FarveFan and others think Bill Belichick is hot for Mitch.



I said it first here. And I stand by it.

There are coaches that can tailor an entire team to what best suits their talents.

Matt Nagy can't even get out of his own way.

That seems right to me. Good coaches adapt to their players. Bad coaches try to force their system, without understanding why that system worked in the first place.

It’s why guys like Belichick, Reid, Saban, etc. stay on top.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
blackhawksfan wrote:
Can't wait to see Mitch on the Patriots practice squad next year LOL it's funny how FarveFan and others think Bill Belichick is hot for Mitch.



I said it first here. And I stand by it.

There are coaches that can tailor an entire team to what best suits their talents.

Matt Nagy can't even get out of his own way.

That seems right to me. Good coaches adapt to their players. Bad coaches try to force their system, without understanding why that system worked in the first place.

It’s why guys like Belichick, Reid, Saban, etc. stay on top.


In all, Belichick is 219-64 with Brady at starting quarterback and 60-71 without him, including a 36-44 record in Cleveland. This is his third season in New England without Brady at quarterback, and in those years the Patriots are 22-24, missing the playoffs all three times.Dec 21, 2020


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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
blackhawksfan wrote:
Can't wait to see Mitch on the Patriots practice squad next year LOL it's funny how FarveFan and others think Bill Belichick is hot for Mitch.



I said it first here. And I stand by it.

There are coaches that can tailor an entire team to what best suits their talents.

Matt Nagy can't even get out of his own way.

That seems right to me. Good coaches adapt to their players. Bad coaches try to force their system, without understanding why that system worked in the first place.

It’s why guys like Belichick, Reid, Saban, etc. stay on top.

I agree with the thought in concept but I’m not sure how much adapting any of those guys have had to do.

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blackhawksfan wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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blackhawksfan wrote:
Can't wait to see Mitch on the Patriots practice squad next year LOL it's funny how FarveFan and others think Bill Belichick is hot for Mitch.



I said it first here. And I stand by it.

There are coaches that can tailor an entire team to what best suits their talents.

Matt Nagy can't even get out of his own way.

That seems right to me. Good coaches adapt to their players. Bad coaches try to force their system, without understanding why that system worked in the first place.

It’s why guys like Belichick, Reid, Saban, etc. stay on top.


In all, Belichick is 219-64 with Brady at starting quarterback and 60-71 without him, including a 36-44 record in Cleveland. This is his third season in New England without Brady at quarterback, and in those years the Patriots are 22-24, missing the playoffs all three times.Dec 21, 2020

The Cassell year had a 10 win team. This year was a mess for a million different reasons. The third year you’ve referenced was his first year on the team.

He evolved over time from a defense/ST driven team to one focused on offense. I don’t think it’s controversial to consider him among the greatest coaches of all time.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
blackhawksfan wrote:
Can't wait to see Mitch on the Patriots practice squad next year LOL it's funny how FarveFan and others think Bill Belichick is hot for Mitch.



I said it first here. And I stand by it.

There are coaches that can tailor an entire team to what best suits their talents.

Matt Nagy can't even get out of his own way.

That seems right to me. Good coaches adapt to their players. Bad coaches try to force their system, without understanding why that system worked in the first place.

It’s why guys like Belichick, Reid, Saban, etc. stay on top.

I agree with the thought in concept but I’m not sure how much adapting any of those guys have had to do.

Sustained success while the game evolves tells the story (for me at least).

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
blackhawksfan wrote:
Can't wait to see Mitch on the Patriots practice squad next year LOL it's funny how FarveFan and others think Bill Belichick is hot for Mitch.



I said it first here. And I stand by it.

There are coaches that can tailor an entire team to what best suits their talents.

Matt Nagy can't even get out of his own way.

That seems right to me. Good coaches adapt to their players. Bad coaches try to force their system, without understanding why that system worked in the first place.

It’s why guys like Belichick, Reid, Saban, etc. stay on top.

I agree with the thought in concept but I’m not sure how much adapting any of those guys have had to do.

Sustained success while the game evolves tells the story (for me at least).


Belichick was able to evolve with the greatest QB of all time. He's a good coach but let's see how many playoff games he wins without a top notch QB.


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Fair enough. I like Reid in the NFL or Saban/Meyer in college as the greatest, but I don’t have strong feelings.

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Fair enough. I like Reid in the NFL or Saban/Meyer in college as the greatest, but I don’t have strong feelings.

Saban/Meyer adapt by replacing the #1 recruit in the country with the next #1 recruit in the country. College sports at the elite level are all about recruiting. Actual adapting is a mid-level coach understanding his program’s limitations and recruiting guys that fit a profile. NIU excelled at that for nearly a decade.

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Fair enough. I like Reid in the NFL or Saban/Meyer in college as the greatest, but I don’t have strong feelings.

Saban/Meyer adapt by replacing the #1 recruit in the country with the next #1 recruit in the country. College sports at the elite level are all about recruiting. Adapting is a mid-level coach understanding his limitations and recruiting guys that fir a profile. NIU excelled at that for a decade.

Saban turned a ball control, defense first team into one of the greatest offensive programs in history.

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Fair enough. I like Reid in the NFL or Saban/Meyer in college as the greatest, but I don’t have strong feelings.

Saban/Meyer adapt by replacing the #1 recruit in the country with the next #1 recruit in the country. College sports at the elite level are all about recruiting. Adapting is a mid-level coach understanding his limitations and recruiting guys that fir a profile. NIU excelled at that for a decade.

Saban turned a ball control, defense first team into one of the greatest offensive programs in history.

When did this occur?

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When Lane Kiffin helped to recruit Tua, and all of those WRs.

Man Saban was fucking insufferable about not opening up the offense before that.

He even tried to petition to have offenses like Oregon’s banned from the NCAA.

I fucking hate him.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Fair enough. I like Reid in the NFL or Saban/Meyer in college as the greatest, but I don’t have strong feelings.

Saban/Meyer adapt by replacing the #1 recruit in the country with the next #1 recruit in the country. College sports at the elite level are all about recruiting. Adapting is a mid-level coach understanding his limitations and recruiting guys that fir a profile. NIU excelled at that for a decade.

Saban turned a ball control, defense first team into one of the greatest offensive programs in history.

When did this occur?

2007-present

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blackhawksfan wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Can't wait to see Mitch on the Patriots practice squad next year LOL it's funny how FarveFan and others think Bill Belichick is hot for Mitch.



I said it first here. And I stand by it.

There are coaches that can tailor an entire team to what best suits their talents.

Matt Nagy can't even get out of his own way.

That seems right to me. Good coaches adapt to their players. Bad coaches try to force their system, without understanding why that system worked in the first place.

It’s why guys like Belichick, Reid, Saban, etc. stay on top.


In all, Belichick is 219-64 with Brady at starting quarterback and 60-71 without him, including a 36-44 record in Cleveland. This is his third season in New England without Brady at quarterback, and in those years the Patriots are 22-24, missing the playoffs all three times.Dec 21, 2020

Mr. Antioch stated my point prior to me.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Fair enough. I like Reid in the NFL or Saban/Meyer in college as the greatest, but I don’t have strong feelings.

Saban/Meyer adapt by replacing the #1 recruit in the country with the next #1 recruit in the country. College sports at the elite level are all about recruiting. Adapting is a mid-level coach understanding his limitations and recruiting guys that fir a profile. NIU excelled at that for a decade.

Saban turned a ball control, defense first team into one of the greatest offensive programs in history.

He has stated why he did this too, he didn't like how Ole Miss and Hugh Freeze would beat him and with this high powered offense. Saw where offense was going and made the decision he needed to change.

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Kap said today that he has had discussion with several Bears administration and there is absolutely no way they bring Mitch back.

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Kap said today that he has had discussion with several Bears administration and there is absolutely no way they bring Mitch back.

They kinda can't bring him back now after bus tossing him in the press conference. Nice thank you for saving their jobs.

He will prosper elsewhere next year.

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Kap said today that he has had discussion with several Bears administration and there is absolutely no way they bring Mitch back.
If that's the case then I agree with your previous comment - It will be Foles and a high draft pick rookie. The only thing I'd add is this could also mean an extension to both Pace and Nagy. Otherwise they would be digging their own graves.

Edit: I see some speculation on-line that Pace already signed a 1 year extension which would align both til 2022. If true that means they can't really take a flyer on a high ceiling "development" guy.

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So anyway...

Jackson Carman

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/jackson-carman-nfl-draft-player-profile-clemson-guard/

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I don't think they can go for interior OL. If anything, the second half of the year showed that the Bears should have depth on the interior in 2021. Mustipher, Bars, Daniels, Whitehair. Maybe draft for greater depth later or get a versatile veteran to back up across the line.

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OT massie and leno need to go. draft the best OT


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I think he could be someone to look at for RT in round 2 or 3 after drafting the best LT available in round 1.

Barrs is complete trash, especially as a pass protector IMO.

Also, if Carman could be a game changing Guard I think you’d def have to consider drafting him because outside of Whitehair (sometimes) there is no one close to “dominant” on the offensive line.

We need a top 5 offensive line.

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OT massie and leno need to go. draft the best OT

I agree.

No more of this just getting by with below average linemen.

Look at the Browns.

Drafted a LT in the 1st round who started 15 games this year, and signed the best RT on the market last offseason in Conklin.

Their rushing attack is dominant, and they are in the divisional round of the playoffs.

Bears need immediate improvement like that.

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