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The next interesting thing they say will be the first. Outside of Chris Tannehill, they are all awful. The Goff and drinky days of goofball fun is dead. Shane the graduated form of college neckbeards needs to stay 100miles away from a mic with his uncanny way of being more thin-skinned than Spiegs at his worst during the old midday show to Herb being a walrus of idiocy Zawaski is a pre-op Julie. Push the fuckin' button radio (salute to Mac).

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It's punch the fucking button...

and you're wrong. Shane is hilarious.

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Shane can be amusing in small doses. Problem is we get big doses.

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Blame Goff for this. B&B put him on more than he ever should have been and he parlayed that into getting a hosting gig despite being a complete moron on the mic. Now every producer thinks they can become a host.

Remember how pissed off people at 670 were when Parkins was hired because 670 dared to hire someone from outside who was actually a host rather than some dumbass producer thinking it was his turn?

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Blame Goff for this. B&B put him on more than he ever should have been and he parlayed that into getting a hosting gig despite being a complete moron on the mic. Now every producer thinks they can become a host.

Remember how pissed off people at 670 were when Parkins was hired because 670 dared to hire someone from outside who was actually a host rather than some dumbass producer thinking it was his turn?

Parkins was actually talking about this last week. He said losing out on the MJH producer job was the best thing that could have happened to him. Said it led him to back to Syracuse to host a show, then to KC, then back to Chicago. He said he didn't think he'd be a host now if he had gotten the producer job.

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Shane can be amusing in small doses. Problem is we get big doses.


Yeah, he doesn't know when a joke has run its course. His pajama gram commercials started out funny, but then he dragged it out to the point of redundancy...same thing the other day when he incorporated the talk about glass blowing and glory holes into one of his ad reads.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Blame Goff for this. B&B put him on more than he ever should have been and he parlayed that into getting a hosting gig despite being a complete moron on the mic. Now every producer thinks they can become a host.

Remember how pissed off people at 670 were when Parkins was hired because 670 dared to hire someone from outside who was actually a host rather than some dumbass producer thinking it was his turn?

Goff proved himself by going out of market and hosting. His problem was b&b let him get away with unprofessionalism and it got him canned in Atlanta. Instead of being humbled, he got more arrogant and the Score rewarded him until he brought the ratings down. Herb left town to be an Uber driver and returned to be a Larry sycophant.

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Goff was great as a producer/commentator. So was drinky and Hood before them.

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and Jesse...and Tommy Williams.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Blame Goff for this. B&B put him on more than he ever should have been and he parlayed that into getting a hosting gig despite being a complete moron on the mic. Now every producer thinks they can become a host.

Remember how pissed off people at 670 were when Parkins was hired because 670 dared to hire someone from outside who was actually a host rather than some dumbass producer thinking it was his turn?


that's where I lost a lot of respect for Spiegs. He treated Parkins like absolute shit. It's one thing to do it behind the scenes but on the air, the complete disrespect was very unprofessional.

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Parkins was actually talking about this last week. He said losing out on the MJH producer job was the best thing that could have happened to him. Said it led him to back to Syracuse to host a show, then to KC, then back to Chicago. He said he didn't think he'd be a host now if he had gotten the producer job.


That's a great subtle FUCK YOU by Parkins to THE SCORE politburo. And a nice brag that if you want to make it in this business, you have to do it by yourself. Can't sit around waiting for your turn because that will never happen.


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It's hard to argue with the premise of the producer-to-host technique, when you can list the successes: Mac, Greenie, Silvy, Spiegs and more I can't name right off.

The problem is the tried and true hasn't been working of late, but it's hard to change course just in case you would happen to find a needle in the haystack. And, I doubt there are hundreds of great producers waiting in the cue to take such a low-paying job, without the hope of some day being in-air talent.

I agree that the Pajamagram reads have burned out, but Shane was good this morning on B/R about grilling stuff, which surprised me.


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Shane is funny.

Does he miss on jokes? Of course. But he's a confident guy. He speaks well. He's funnier than most SCORE producers in the station's history.

I can tell he's trying to be a personality. I think he thinks he can be a host. Maybe he can. We'll see.


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It's been a while since I have heard Shane, but I don't know if he really cares about sports. He may be aiming for a Brian Paruch-like gig as the foil on an Entercom morning show somewhere.

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Dziepak was the guy they should have kept. He hosted some weekends and was a good listen. He was also funny on the morning show.


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Shane has funny thoughts...but his attempt at schtick ruins it.

He’s like the guy in your circle of friends who talks the most, and occasionally says some laugh out loud shit, but overall is just over the top


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Dziepak was the guy they should have kept. He hosted some weekends and was a good listen. He was also funny on the morning show.

A victim of timing in more ways than one. A Cubs-hating online troll would have been a great chief antagonist if 670 still had the Sox.

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K Effective wrote:
It's hard to argue with the premise of the producer-to-host technique, when you can list the successes: Mac, Greenie, Silvy, Spiegs and more I can't name right off.

The problem is the tried and true hasn't been working of late, but it's hard to change course just in case you would happen to find a needle in the haystack. And, I doubt there are hundreds of great producers waiting in the cue to take such a low-paying job, without the hope of some day being in-air talent.

I agree that the Pajamagram reads have burned out, but Shane was good this morning on B/R about grilling stuff, which surprised me.


Greenberg was never a producer; he was hired as the Score's Bears beat reporter. I'm not sure whether or not Silvy was a producer, but he got his shot as a host due to the fact that he was a great Bears beat reporter and analyst. Spiegel hosted at SNR and some out-of-town markets before returning to Chicago as a mediocre sidekick to Mac.

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It's hard to argue with the premise of the producer-to-host technique, when you can list the successes: Mac, Greenie, Silvy, Spiegs and more I can't name right off.

The problem is the tried and true hasn't been working of late, but it's hard to change course just in case you would happen to find a needle in the haystack. And, I doubt there are hundreds of great producers waiting in the cue to take such a low-paying job, without the hope of some day being in-air talent.

I agree that the Pajamagram reads have burned out, but Shane was good this morning on B/R about grilling stuff, which surprised me.


Greenberg was never a producer; he was hired as the Score's Bears beat reporter. I'm not sure whether or not Silvy was a producer, but he got his shot as a host due to the fact that he was a great Bears beat reporter and analyst. Spiegel hosted at SNR and some out-of-town markets before returning to Chicago as a mediocre sidekick to Mac.


this is correct.

and the Mac 'producer to host' is incorrect as posted earlier. If he kept on with Chet, he would have never been a host of anything. He had the guts to bail and go on with some start up new station where they gave him the opportunity to be a host. While his old boss and the media establishment at the time laughed at this new station saying it would be off the air in a 3 months.


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It's hard to argue with the premise of the producer-to-host technique, when you can list the successes: Mac, Greenie, Silvy, Spiegs and more I can't name right off.

The problem is the tried and true hasn't been working of late, but it's hard to change course just in case you would happen to find a needle in the haystack. And, I doubt there are hundreds of great producers waiting in the cue to take such a low-paying job, without the hope of some day being in-air talent.

I agree that the Pajamagram reads have burned out, but Shane was good this morning on B/R about grilling stuff, which surprised me.


Greenberg was never a producer; he was hired as the Score's Bears beat reporter. I'm not sure whether or not Silvy was a producer, but he got his shot as a host due to the fact that he was a great Bears beat reporter and analyst. Spiegel hosted at SNR and some out-of-town markets before returning to Chicago as a mediocre sidekick to Mac.



He was hired as a producer and a part time reporter.

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It's hard to argue with the premise of the producer-to-host technique, when you can list the successes: Mac, Greenie, Silvy, Spiegs and more I can't name right off.

The problem is the tried and true hasn't been working of late, but it's hard to change course just in case you would happen to find a needle in the haystack. And, I doubt there are hundreds of great producers waiting in the cue to take such a low-paying job, without the hope of some day being in-air talent.

I agree that the Pajamagram reads have burned out, but Shane was good this morning on B/R about grilling stuff, which surprised me.


Greenberg was never a producer; he was hired as the Score's Bears beat reporter. I'm not sure whether or not Silvy was a producer, but he got his shot as a host due to the fact that he was a great Bears beat reporter and analyst. Spiegel hosted at SNR and some out-of-town markets before returning to Chicago as a mediocre sidekick to Mac.



He was hired as a producer and a part time reporter.


I'm not sure that's true. Even if it is, though, Greenberg became a part-time host because he was a terrific/terrifically entertaining Bears beat reporter. His weekend shows with Buffone were hilarious.

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It's hard to argue with the premise of the producer-to-host technique, when you can list the successes: Mac, Greenie, Silvy, Spiegs and more I can't name right off.

The problem is the tried and true hasn't been working of late, but it's hard to change course just in case you would happen to find a needle in the haystack. And, I doubt there are hundreds of great producers waiting in the cue to take such a low-paying job, without the hope of some day being in-air talent.

I agree that the Pajamagram reads have burned out, but Shane was good this morning on B/R about grilling stuff, which surprised me.


Greenberg was never a producer; he was hired as the Score's Bears beat reporter. I'm not sure whether or not Silvy was a producer, but he got his shot as a host due to the fact that he was a great Bears beat reporter and analyst. Spiegel hosted at SNR and some out-of-town markets before returning to Chicago as a mediocre sidekick to Mac.



He was hired as a producer and a part time reporter.


I'm not sure that's true. Even if it is, though, Greenberg became a part-time host because he was a terrific/terrifically entertaining Bears beat reporter. His weekend shows with Buffone were hilarious.


It's not a well known thing about Greeny.

He did some producing when he was first hired. And some part time reporting from game sites as well.

I agree with your assessment of his abilities too.

Like Bernstein, he was "discovered" by Ron Gleason.

He became a part time host a couple of years in. And ascended quickly to doing TV.

He left to do full time TV at CLTV and went to ESPN mot too long after that.

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In the future, Mike Greenberg will host every Disney property for 15 minutes.

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Greeny said, in an interview I heard recently, that he started as a producer for Mike North- I didn't know that, for I did not listen to the Score at that time.

What I was trying to describe was the pattern of producer to on-air talent success that those few guys enjoyed. Again, I don't remember Mac as producer, but he clearly succeeded as a host, as has Silvy, etc. I would assume they all displayed a unique talent and did so quite quickly. Unfortunately, the search for the next big thing results in overexposure of a bunch of NOT the next big things. Or, perhaps the carrot is dangled to keep them on as producers, if they are actually good at that. Or, maybe the hosts are just that lazy or uninterested in doing a Iive pajama read.


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Greeny said, in an interview I heard recently, that he started as a producer for Mike North- I didn't know that, for I did not listen to the Score at that time.

What I was trying to describe was the pattern of producer to on-air talent success that those few guys enjoyed. Again, I don't remember Mac as producer, but he clearly succeeded as a host, as has Silvy, etc. I would assume they all displayed a unique talent and did so quite quickly. Unfortunately, the search for the next big thing results in overexposure of a bunch of NOT the next big things. Or, perhaps the carrot is dangled to keep them on as producers, if they are actually good at that. Or, maybe the hosts are just that lazy or uninterested in doing a Iive pajama read.



I had forgotten that it was North's show.

There was bigger plans for Greeny from the day he was hired.

He's a good guy and was always a pleasure to work with.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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K Effective wrote:
It's hard to argue with the premise of the producer-to-host technique, when you can list the successes: Mac, Greenie, Silvy, Spiegs and more I can't name right off.

The problem is the tried and true hasn't been working of late, but it's hard to change course just in case you would happen to find a needle in the haystack. And, I doubt there are hundreds of great producers waiting in the cue to take such a low-paying job, without the hope of some day being in-air talent.

I agree that the Pajamagram reads have burned out, but Shane was good this morning on B/R about grilling stuff, which surprised me.


Greenberg was never a producer; he was hired as the Score's Bears beat reporter. I'm not sure whether or not Silvy was a producer, but he got his shot as a host due to the fact that he was a great Bears beat reporter and analyst. Spiegel hosted at SNR and some out-of-town markets before returning to Chicago as a mediocre sidekick to Mac.



He was hired as a producer and a part time reporter.


I'm not sure that's true. Even if it is, though, Greenberg became a part-time host because he was a terrific/terrifically entertaining Bears beat reporter. His weekend shows with Buffone were hilarious.


It's not a well known thing about Greeny.

He did some producing when he was first hired. And some part time reporting from game sites as well.

I agree with your assessment of his abilities too.

Like Bernstein, he was "discovered" by Ron Gleason.

He became a part time host a couple of years in. And ascended quickly to doing TV.

He left to do full time TV at CLTV and went to ESPN mot too long after that.


Gleason seemed to have an eye/ear for talent. Maybe he should be brought back into the fold at the Score. Why did he get pushed out in the first place? Anyone remember?

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Did he get pushed out? I thought he got promoted to running 780.

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Did he get pushed out? I thought he got promoted to running 780.



He got promoted. He is a good corporate soldier.

I like Ron. He's a good man. He isn't Irish, and his real name isn't Gleason.

I learned a lot from him watching how he dealt with "talent."

It's been helpful in helping to keep this site around. :lol:

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Tall Midget wrote:
K Effective wrote:
It's hard to argue with the premise of the producer-to-host technique, when you can list the successes: Mac, Greenie, Silvy, Spiegs and more I can't name right off.

The problem is the tried and true hasn't been working of late, but it's hard to change course just in case you would happen to find a needle in the haystack. And, I doubt there are hundreds of great producers waiting in the cue to take such a low-paying job, without the hope of some day being in-air talent.

I agree that the Pajamagram reads have burned out, but Shane was good this morning on B/R about grilling stuff, which surprised me.


Greenberg was never a producer; he was hired as the Score's Bears beat reporter. I'm not sure whether or not Silvy was a producer, but he got his shot as a host due to the fact that he was a great Bears beat reporter and analyst. Spiegel hosted at SNR and some out-of-town markets before returning to Chicago as a mediocre sidekick to Mac.



He was hired as a producer and a part time reporter.


I'm not sure that's true. Even if it is, though, Greenberg became a part-time host because he was a terrific/terrifically entertaining Bears beat reporter. His weekend shows with Buffone were hilarious.


It's not a well known thing about Greeny.

He did some producing when he was first hired. And some part time reporting from game sites as well.

I agree with your assessment of his abilities too.

Like Bernstein, he was "discovered" by Ron Gleason.

He became a part time host a couple of years in. And ascended quickly to doing TV.

He left to do full time TV at CLTV and went to ESPN mot too long after that.


Gleason seemed to have an eye/ear for talent. Maybe he should be brought back into the fold at the Score. Why did he get pushed out in the first place? Anyone remember?


:lol:

Ron enjoys less egos while running the most listened to station in town.

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Gleason was the one who got Murph over from WLS. And also North had a big role in that too.

But Gleason sold it to Murph with the 'Micheal Jordan is the only reason why we are able to build a sports radio station in this town' and 'you know how much money we can generate off his coat tails' argument. That sold Murph to join the score.

And remember the 'you don't tug on superman's cape' Jim Croce drop that Murph use to play when someone had anything bad to say about MJ on his show? That's where that came from.


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Gleason was the one who got Murph over from WLS. And also North had a big role in that too.

But Gleason sold it to Murph with the 'Micheal Jordan is the only reason why we are able to build a sports radio station in this town' and 'you know how much money we can generate off his coat tails' argument. That sold Murph to join the score.

And remember the 'don't tug on superman's cape' Jim Croce drop that Murph use to play when someone had anything bad to say about MJ on his show? That's where that came from.



Seth Mason hired Murph almost a year before the station started.

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