Hawk and DJ were slobbing AJ's cock so relentlessly, I was actually compelled to mute my TV; their ridiculous level of praise made for an unbearable listen.

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Why shouldnt' they praise AJ? Who else on the team, in that situation, would have thought about running interference? It was very heads up by him, and you can't blame him for trying. It ended up working in the Sox favor. Keep in mind, this was all set up because he recognized Upton dogging yet another play out there and was again heads up in tagging to get to 2nd base.

Love or hate the Sox or thier announcers, AJ deserved all the praise he got yesterday because in back to back plays he was certainly aware of the situation.

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Did Cox explain his reasoning for the call?
If he spouted numbers about Cabrera with two-outs and a man in scoring position, then I'll give him a little more credit (even though I still won't agree with what he did).
If he talks about having Lovie's gut feeling or forcing the Rays to "make a play", then I'll feel stronger about his inability to coach at third.

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Because he was essentially cheating, and he was just flat-out lucky to get the call. But more than that, it wasn't really just that they were praising him, but the fact that the praise went on for like 10 minutes.

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Cheating, heads up, luck, whatever spin you put on it, bottom line is without AJ doing what he did on the bases yesterday, the Sox don't win that game in the 10th-- Period. Why praising a guy that has a direct impact on winning a game in the 10th inning pisses you off so much I have no idea.

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Safe to assume that Hawk would have had a total mental breakdown if a rays player had done that and the rays had won the game.

Sigh. Read the post again. The fact that they praised a cheater is secondary to the fact that they praised him relentlessly for over 10 minutes. I only bring up the fact that it was cheating because they couldn't be bothered to. At any rate, I tolerated the praise for a long time, but when it became evident that they were going to continue to slob his cock for the rest of the broadcast, I just muted the TV.

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It was a cheap play, but it resulted in a win for the Sox. Things like that play, the dropped 3rd strike Etc...make A.J. a guy you love to have on your team and HATE if he's on the other side. This is not High School or College sports, its the pro's, where winning is the main focus.

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He took advantage of a loophole in a rule, he didn't use a corked bat or anything. He helped win a game with 2 heads up plays. As bad and whiney as the Sox booth can be, I won't fault Hawk or DJ for praising heads up plays like AJ's. If only your posts had a mute button...

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Once again, you're just ignoring what I wrote. I don't know how to make this any more clear: I didn't mute the TV because they praised AJ. I'm not posting in this thread because they praised AJ. My problem is the extent to which they praised AJ. That's why I muted the TV, and why I'm posting in this thread. It's weird, I like Hawk when he's interviewed on the radio, but I can't tolerate him in the broadcast booth; he whines too much when things go wrong, and is totally over-the-top enthusiastic whenever they do well.

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Ya think? That is one of the reasons they (Hawk & DJ) are hard to listen to. It is ok to be "homers" for your team...but they typically do not give a fair analysis of a game. It is always spun in a White Sox direction.

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It's actually closer to 3 years since the dropped 3rd strike call. But this is a reach, BF, even for you. An umpire makes 2 "bad" calls over the span of 3 years and you think he has some hidden agenda to somehow favor the White Sox. That's a coindidence, not a pattern. I'm guessing he's made other bad calls in other games involving teams that aren't the White Sox. With that in mind I couldn't blame the Sox (or any other team benefitting from his poor calls) for that, blame the umpire for sucking.



...I'm not really sure what this means. Should there be some type of admission that the dropped 3rd strike call was wrong? I don't remember ever thinking that it was a great call by the ump. I liked the result, but I couldn't see how the call the even made in the first place since he couldn't see the ball drop since I couldn't see it drop on any one of the 10,000 replays that I saw. That doesn't mean it didn't hit the ground, it just means I don't think the call could have been made based on what the umpire saw....of course I didn't get a replay from inside the umpire's head either.
What is this "craziness" that you speak of? Bad calls? Yeah, there's bad calls made by umpires...and I guess the White Sox are the only team that gets these breaks...and without them they never would win a game, much less a world series. That sounds pretty crazy to me.

They are trying to couch the broadcast to the greater element of their audience: Sox fans. They are going to be biased, but sometimes they go way over the top. In the ninth inning, they could have pointed out how lucky the team was to score the tying run. No, they tried to praise Cox for his move.
In the 10th, a simple statement about A.J.'s move would've sufficed, but an extended kneel-fest was plain overkill.
When they do things like this, they pander to a smaller section of their viewers: the blindly-loyal ass hats.

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You've posted here long enough to have something like this NOT surprise you. bigfan takes shots at Kenny, Riensdorf, and the Sox any chance he gets.

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While we can yap about the interference play involving A.J. Pierzynski, the error, and then scoring the game winning run on Alexei Ramirez's opposite field single all we want, none of it would have been possible without Paul Konerko's pinch hit single in the 9th that scored Brian Anderson to tie the game in the first place. In fact, "The SCORE's" Steve Stone said it point blank that B.A. would've been out if the throw was on the money, and the catcher didn't drop the ball. The Sox overcame awful defense to tie it, and then win it in part on a technicality of the rule book when it looked to me as if Aybar grazed Pierzynski in the rundown.

It amazes me that the same people that are praising AJ for his behavior are the same people that criticize A. Soriano for "being disrespectful to the game" and so on, and so on, blah, blah, blah. Because Soriano pauses for a beat at the end of a swing?

The next time Soriano does something as disgraceful, disrespectful and inflammatory as that living, breathing turd that is AJ, it will be the first time.

Congrats on losing that home series by one game instead of three - by cheating, none the less.

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Remember that time Soriano's pausing to watch a home run helped the Cubs win a game? Yeah, neither do I. I have no problem with anything Soriano does but I also have no idea what your point is or what the correlation between AJ and Soriano is. Apples/Oranges.

There were frequent discussions last week that Soriano deserves to be beaned, drilled, injured, etc. because he is so disrespectful to the game and to his opponents. There is no way what Soriano does (holding his bat for 1/2 second after a swing) is in any way, nearly as disrespectful to the game or other players as what AJ does on a regular basis. Sorry bud, apples/apples.

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I don't care if there were frequent discussions last week. I wasn't part of that discussion. I'm asking you, now...what is it exactly that AJ does on a regular basis that is disrespectful to the game? He got a call in the game yesterday...and he got a call in his favor in 2005. That's a regular basis? And what's disrespectful...he's not the umpire making the call.

There's nothing disrespectful about A.J. I don't know what in the hell that one guy is talking about! If there was anything disrespectful, it was Alfonso Soriano hotdogging it to first base in Atlanta when he thought he homered at Turner Field, and then later got buzzed by that one pitcher who has since been suspended & optioned back to Triple "A" Richmond!

Soriano posing for a ball he hits off the wall is nothing close to what AJ did yesterday. End of discussion.

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Frank, you are absolutely right about Soriano's pose that day about 2 weeks ago in Atlanta!

Its funny. BJ Upton dogs it and his manager yanks him out of the game. Not only does Lou let Soriano do whatever he wants, now there's Cub fans saying what AJ did is on par with what Soriano does. Talk about shit for brains..

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Here's spanky's view on this and hundreds of other baseball matters:

Soriano, Cubs = good

AJ, Sox = BAD!

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As a Cub fan I gotta agree with Albert and Frank (did I just say that? )

The issue with Soriano and AJ are completely different.

AJ is like Bill Laimbeer to me. When he is on the other team you hate his guts, but would you want him on your team? Hell yeah.

I see nothing wrong with what AJ did, he was trying to help his team win a game and he accomplished just that.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

First of all, if "you don't care about last weeks discussions" - then why the hell are you asking me about who is comparing apples/oranges between the two conversations? But in order to enlighten you a little more....
The call in the playoffs in 2005, stomping on Morneau's foot in Minneapolis, steamrolling a catcher that's not blocking the plate without the ball and then going all WWE with his antics at the plate (resulting in further WWE antics from another bonehead), grabbing the SS's (name eludes me) belt while breaking up a DP against the Red Sox, now this. All have occurred in the last 3 years. I'm not even going back to his short-lived Giants days when he refused to meet w. pitchers and coaches to go over game plans, or anything he did in Minnesota.

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Agreed - AJ was intentionally seeking a situation in which there would be a controversy, one way or the other, and he again benefitted from it. The biggest problem with yesterdays game was the fact that it was shitty cal by an umpire - but AJ created the mess to begin with.

Soriano stood a little too long (in the opinion of a drunk, wife beating "old school" manager) and posed on what he thought was HR against the team that had hit him (and injured him!) intentionally several times.

They are very different - AJ's is far more disrespectful to the game and it's players.

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PLEASE - put me back on "ignore".

But while you're at it - please enlighten us with a real simple equation that explains your unbiased view of the world.

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Good one - funny, I pictured you as being older than 14.

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