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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:26 pm 
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I've always worked under the assumption neither Wilson nor Watson are going anywhere and talk is just off season time filler

I completely agree. Neither team is dumb enough to let a franchise QB leave fully knowing they don't have a better option available. Any of the other QB discussed as trades or reclamation projects are a much lower tier of talent.


I suppose if Jax came to either with the first pick, the discussion could occur.

#20 isn't even getting them a top five QB in the draft.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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I've always worked under the assumption neither Wilson nor Watson are going anywhere and talk is just off season time filler

I completely agree. Neither team is dumb enough to let a franchise QB leave fully knowing they don't have a better option available. Any of the other QB discussed as trades or reclamation projects are a much lower tier of talent.

The situation is only going to get worse in Houston with Watson though.

They won't be good. Watson will be mad because ownership disrespected him. A year from now, they'll trade him for far less than he is worth.

Wilson isn't going anywhere though because no one will pay what Seattle would want.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Steven A Smith just said that Dak Prescott not getting a contract until now is because he's black.


I guess it doesn't mean anything to him that the four highest paid QBs in history are black:

Mahomes $45m
Prescott $40m
Watson $39m
Wilson $35m

And Lamar Jackson will certainly make it five.

Smith is a fucking asshole.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Steven A Smith just said that Dak Prescott not getting a contract until now is because he's black.


I guess it doesn't mean anything to him that the four highest paid QBs in history are black:

Mahomes $45m
Prescott $40m
Watson $39m
Wilson $35m

And Lamar Jackson will certainly make it five.

Smith is a fucking asshole.


That’s odd that four out of 32 is 12.5%.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Waiting for the argument that the four highest QB's in history being black is within itself, racist.


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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BigW72 wrote:
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I've always worked under the assumption neither Wilson nor Watson are going anywhere and talk is just off season time filler

I completely agree. Neither team is dumb enough to let a franchise QB leave fully knowing they don't have a better option available. Any of the other QB discussed as trades or reclamation projects are a much lower tier of talent.

Watson’s gone. He’s going to force their hand

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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This is the NFL, not the NBA. Goodell's not going to let the NFL turn into the NBA, with players calling the shots.


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Waiting for the argument that the four highest QB's in history being black is within itself, racist.


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Hussra wrote:
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Waiting for the argument that the four highest QB's in history being black is within itself, racist.


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Is that a crack smoking emoji?

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Hussra wrote:
This is the NFL, not the NBA. Goodell's not going to let the NFL turn into the NBA, with players calling the shots.

Goodell has no say in the matter. If Watson won’t play for them he’s gone. Not to mention your post ignores the Elway/Eli and more precedents

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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This is the NFL, not the NBA. Goodell's not going to let the NFL turn into the NBA, with players calling the shots.

Goodell has no say in the matter. If Watson won’t play for them he’s gone. Not to mention your post ignores the Elway/Eli and more precedents


But will Watson actually sit? That is the question.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Hussra wrote:
This is the NFL, not the NBA. Goodell's not going to let the NFL turn into the NBA, with players calling the shots.

Goodell has no say in the matter. If Watson won’t play for them he’s gone. Not to mention your post ignores the Elway/Eli and more precedents


But will Watson actually sit? That is the question.

Sure sounds like it.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Hussra wrote:
This is the NFL, not the NBA. Goodell's not going to let the NFL turn into the NBA, with players calling the shots.

Goodell has no say in the matter. If Watson won’t play for them he’s gone. Not to mention your post ignores the Elway/Eli and more precedents


Elway/Eli have zero to do with Goodell. Owners aren't paying Goodell $40 mil a yr to let the players fuck up their shit.
Goodell = owners' tool to fuck the players in the ass at every turn. the owners, or masters, or governors or whatever they call themselves nowadays won't accommodate Watson's demands. They'll go to the mat to see Watson doesn't get his way; not so much b/c of Watson's particular situation, but b/c if Watson forces his way out then who's next


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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Hussra wrote:
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This is the NFL, not the NBA. Goodell's not going to let the NFL turn into the NBA, with players calling the shots.

Goodell has no say in the matter. If Watson won’t play for them he’s gone. Not to mention your post ignores the Elway/Eli and more precedents


Elway/Eli have zero to do with Goodell. Owners aren't paying Goodell $40 mil a yr to let the players fuck up their shit.
Goodell = owners' tool to fuck the players in the ass at every turn. the owners, or masters, or governors or whatever they call themselves nowadays won't accommodate Watson's demands. They'll go to the mat to see Watson doesn't get his way; not so much b/c of Watson's particular situation, but b/c if Watson forces his way out then who's next

I'm quite certain you're wrong here. We'll see though.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Hmmm. The Lions are allowing him to walk?



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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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AJ Dillon 1,500 yard season coming up

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Hmmm. The Lions are allowing him to walk?



Bears should kick the can. He's a home run hitter. We haven't had one of those in a long time.

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AJ Dillon 1,500 yard season coming up


Let's not ignore that you allowed arguably a top 5 RB to walk.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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AJ Dillon 1,500 yard season coming up


Let's not ignore that you allowed arguably a top 5 RB to walk.

That’s fine. You don’t pay RBs at this stage of their career. Dillon is ready to handle the workload.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Hmmm. The Lions are allowing him to walk?



Bears should kick the can. He's a home run hitter. We haven't had one of those in a long time.

Kick the can? Lol. He’s gonna get paid pretty well

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AJ Dillon 1,500 yard season coming up


Let's not ignore that you allowed arguably a top 5 RB to walk.

That’s fine. You don’t pay RBs at this stage of their career. Dillon is ready to handle the workload.


You never pay RBs Period

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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AJ Dillon 1,500 yard season coming up


Let's not ignore that you allowed arguably a top 5 RB to walk.

That’s fine. You don’t pay RBs at this stage of their career. Dillon is ready to handle the workload.


You never pay RBs Period

That’s normally a sound rule.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Hmmm. The Lions are allowing him to walk?



Bears should kick the can. He's a home run hitter. We haven't had one of those in a long time.

Kick the can? Lol. He’s gonna get paid pretty well


Im predicting a 4-60 million contract.30 guarenteed.. If he didnt bitch out last year and played the last few games he would get tagged for 18 and get a 4 or 5 year 80-90 million next year.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Not sure he did. That hip might just be degenerative

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I hate Dallas so im happy they paid Dak. It never works out tagging a QB, now they overpaid for a slightly above average QB and have dick left to fill out the roster.. Zeke was another terrible deal.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Not sure he did. That hip might just be degenerative


Nah..he just didnt want to get hurt going into FA for a 4 win team.

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 Post subject: Re: 2021 Offseason
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Hmmm. The Lions are allowing him to walk?



Bears should kick the can. He's a home run hitter. We haven't had one of those in a long time.



I agree.. We backload the deal and make it work.

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AJ Dillon 1,500 yard season coming up


Let's not ignore that you allowed arguably a top 5 RB to walk.

That’s fine. You don’t pay RBs at this stage of their career. Dillon is ready to handle the workload.


You would think that you would remember that your Packers wasted 3 or 4 years of prime Rodgers trying to find another really good to great running back. Gambling the last few years hoping that Dillon can carry the load because he has tree trunks is foolish.

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Cap for this year will be $182.5M. Last year's cap was $198M I think.

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I believe the correct phrase would be "kick the tires", which means to show some initial interest

kick the can would mean to leave a decision to a different day

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