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 Post subject: Re: Sox @ O's
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:07 pm 
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I just think to determine a best team you need a larger sample size than one game or a series. The 80 US hockey team was not better than the Soviets but the US beat them when it counted the most.

Again they were the champions, but they probably weren't the best team.


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If I can steer this back on track, the Seattle Mariners a few years ago won 119 games in the regular season, only to get eliminated come playoff time by the New York Yankees. Just because your team wins the most games or has the best record doesn't mean squat come playoff time! :wink:


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And those M's were coached by......?

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 Post subject: Re: Sox @ O's
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:28 pm 
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Albert Hofmann wrote:
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I just think to determine a best team you need a larger sample size than one game or a series. The 80 US hockey team was not better than the Soviets but the US beat them when it counted the most.

Again they were the champions, but they probably weren't the best team.


That doesnt make sense. Of course the USA team was better. They beat them. How can you say they werent better? If the Cubs dont win the WS, hate to break it to you Cubs fans, but it will be because they werent the best team. The White Sox werent the best team in 2000. They were in 2005.


Because I don't look at one game. I look at the larger picture. That Soviet team was beating NHL teams before the Olympics. They destroyed the US team right before the Olympics.

Lets look at it this way, that Cardinal team in '06 won the WS so according to you they were the best team. The only way they got in the playoffs was because of the expanded format so a team with the 4th best record in the NL was able to win the whole thing.

Before 1969 there were no playoffs, so a second place team could not win the WS. If they had expanded playoffs pre-1969 then don't you think history might have changed? A second place team could have won the whole thing and been the "best" team. The Twins were a second place team in '67 in a 10 team league. But they were not considered the best team even though they had a better resume than the Cards of '06. They were not given the shot to compete.

You see what I am getting at? The Cards of '06 wouldn't be even in the discussion if the playoffs hadn't been expanded.

Villanova won the NCAA's in 85. They would not have been in the tournament 5 years earlier because the tournament had fewer teams.
Champions yes, best team no.


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 Post subject: Re: Sox @ O's
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But the playoffs did expand, and the 06 Cards won it all, hence they are the best.

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So the commisioner played in a vital role in making the Cards the best team by expanding the playoffs. Doesn't this lead to some doubt that the size of the playoff field affects who the best team supposedly is.

i don't understand why its so difficult to comprehend.

But I gotta go back to work ..... or at least pretend to work :D


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i don't understand why its so difficult to comprehend


Its not. You win the World Series, NBA Finals, Stanley Cup, Super Bowl, etc you're the best team.

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the Seattle Mariners a few years ago won 119 games in the regular season, only to get eliminated come playoff time by the New York Yankees.


116 wins...not that it matters, that's alot of f*(&^n wins.


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Frank how was the lumbering Jim Thome base running last night.......and Griffey is NO Aaron Rowand fuck he isn't even BA!

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jesus christ this argument again?

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I've had it with these motherfuckin posts on this motherfuckin topic!


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jesus christ this argument again?

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I've had it with these motherfuckin posts on this motherfuckin topic!

THE BIG TEN IS BETTER THAN THE SEC!!@!@#

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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jesus christ this argument again?

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I've had it with these motherfuckin posts on this motherfuckin topic!

THE BIG TEN IS BETTER THAN THE SEC!!@!@#


no that one doesn't bother me anymore... :wink:


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no that one doesn't bother me anymore... :wink:

Not to steal the thread, but it's not even close this year so I don't blame you. :)

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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no that one doesn't bother me anymore... :wink:

Not to steal the thread, but it's not even close this year so I don't blame you. :)


nice try.


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 Post subject: Re: Sox @ O's
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Albert Hofmann wrote:
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I just think to determine a best team you need a larger sample size than one game or a series. The 80 US hockey team was not better than the Soviets but the US beat them when it counted the most.

Again they were the champions, but they probably weren't the best team.


That doesnt make sense. Of course the USA team was better. They beat them. How can you say they werent better? If the Cubs dont win the WS, hate to break it to you Cubs fans, but it will be because they werent the best team. The White Sox werent the best team in 2000. They were in 2005.

In the games leading up to the olympic games the Soviets destroyed the U.S. team. They were vastly superior and would have likely beaten the U.S. team 95 times out of 100. But the Americans won it in amazing fashion. One of the greatest underdog teams to ever upset another team. But make no mistake, the Soviet team was better. They had a bad day and the Americans played as well as they possibly could have. Anyone who thinks the U.S. team was just better, is an idiot though.

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I'll gladly celebrate the Cubs being the "Best team" in 2008 if it means the White Sox, Rays, or Angels have the ring.





Twins lost in the 9th again. 3-5 so far on that road trip. Sox will be at least 3 games up on them by Thursday.

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