On Wednesday I heard Bernstein saying that the Bears had the 3rd best draft results (behind the Saints and Chiefs) over the last 5(?) years based on some writers scoring system. Even the writer didn’t seem to think it would turn out that way when he began looking at the history. I wasn’t fully paying attention but the scoring was based on who they drafted vs the next guy picked at the same position. So they got killed on (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but gained on guys like Montgomery and Eddie Jackson.

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Robert Mays and Bill Barnwell did a podcast recently about the top 5 and bottom 5 team drafts the past 5 years and they had the Bears 5th best and saints 1st best iirc. It was on Mays Athletic podcast

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Seems an odd way to evaluate a draft.

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Pace's big problem isn't really what he does when he actually makes a pick. It's that he makes a lot of stupid trades involving losing draft picks. Even if he stays at 3 with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, it's probably not viewed as a terrible pick. He missed on Mahomes but so did the whole league who let a future HOF QB fall to 10. Watson-Trubisky seems pretty pointless to discuss now. It's not a victory for Pace but he lucked himself into a tie there.

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When you take a step back and look at it objectively you will find that most of the "experts" know just as much or less than the posters here, in fact most know less because they are dutifully regurgitating other "experts" sports thoughts.

Yeah, Pace's overall drafting strategy has been awful, but his picks haven't been that great either.

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For where he was picking he got some pretty good players. There is a reason the team has been winning even with a "failed" qb pick, and multiple other horrible trades/signings at quarterback. Maybe it's just that the Mack trade was that good though.

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Well, he's only had one winning season in his six years here.

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He’s had a few solid picks, many ok picks and is proud owner of arguably the worst decision in NFL draft history.

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Nah come on man. Mitch doesn't make the list of the top 50 worst picks ever. He's not even Pace's worst 1st round pick.

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He traded up one spot, lost draft picks, got a guy he could’ve gotten anyway at 3 and in the process, passed on two far better alternatives* (including a guy who may turn out as one of the greatest players ever).

*obvious, compulsory asterisk

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Yeah, that happens all the time. Mitch was still a better pick than Solomon Thomas, by a country mile, and yet Pace gets 10x more shit than Lynch does even though Lynch has gone equally long without fixing the QB position for SF either.

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Lynch didn’t unnecessarily trade three picks to move up 1 spot to draft Thomas, while Richard Seymour and Warren Sapp were still on the board.

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But Pace got a lot more production out of his pick than Lynch did with his picks from that trade. Mitch isn't JaMarcus Russell. I get that he was a disappointment but he had at least one objectively good season, led them to 12-4 and made the Pro Bowl. Lotta top 5 picks in history that haven't come close to even doing that.

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Also, all picks before Mahomes are terrible if we are judging it that you missed on maybe the best player since Tom Brady.

The massive problem for Pace was that he also missed on Watson. He may have lucked into that becoming a minor issue.

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The Bears theoretically could have gotten Mahomes (their 2nd choice), Kittle, Kamara(Saints used the pick they traded to the 49ers to draft him) and Jackson with their first 4 picks in 2017. We would likely have multiple Super Bowl wins by now.

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You could say that about most teams if they had literally a perfect draft

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Maybe. Very few teams had the opportunity to draft all 4. Two of the players were drafted with the Bears picks.

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And I could have been a billionaire if I juuussttt would of known those winning numbers before they were drawn.

Likely would of had multiple beach homes and exotic cars by now.

Did you just miss out by being an idiot? If so, put your head in the oven.

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That's the response I would expect from a child. Your comment was idiotic and I called you out on it. Grow up.

Sounds like you just missed out.

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Just because other GM's had worse picks doesn't make the Mitch pick and all thatas lost with it terrible. It was a terrible pick...period.

I'm all for putting aside frustration and looking at Pace objectively and recognizing his picks that were good, but it's more than draft picks. HIs overall draft strategy has been unacceptable. Any publication that has the Bears in top 5 of most anything is using a flawed model.

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His hit rate after the 2nd round is fairly high. Those first 2 rounds have been brutal. The Mahomes failure will be nearly impossible to overcome.

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His 2019 draft is by far his worst. Montgomery is still kinda an unknown and the rest is trash. His other drafts weren't terrible despite the early misses. A lot of quality players, but really no studs outside of Jackson for a year and Roquan.

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Wasn't meant to be a defense of the Mitch pick. It was a bad pick. Just saying it doesn't close in on all time bad territory. To me, that's reserved for top 5-10 picks that literally never did anything positive in the NFL at all, of which there are many and Mitch is not in that group.

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Is it though? He’s nailed some picks like Jackson and Amos, but has he really hit that highly on any round?

In terms of the Mitch thing...the trade was a force multiplier (for me) to the actual pick. It’s not just that he misevaluated the position, or that he didn’t even talk to Watson...it’s that he traded three picks to move up one spot (unnecessarily) and completely shit the bed.

There’s probably a great pop culture analogy, but he did literally everything wrong in that pick and it’s set back the organization about a decade. Yet he’s still employed...

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2019 is complete shit outside of a prayer with Montgomery. I think 2020 will be solid too. The problem is there aren't any potentially great players outside of Roquan.

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