Hearing that Jenkins cannot play LT because he doesn't have the footwork, does he have worse footwork than Leno, who looked like a turn style at times. It would seem they would love to go with Jenkins at LT and have another younger play at RT.

A bunch of scat back type guys, wonder if Cohen will be moved.

Numerous guys that can return kicks or play special teams, maybe one of them will break out like Mooney.

The only QB on the roster that provides enough of a running threat to run the RPO is Fields, he has to start ASAP.

Defense is paper thin at numerous positions, look for late round picks and UDFA's on D to make the team and to play prominent roles as the older D guys break down later in the season.

O line looked significantly better with Mustipher at C, who are the best 5 O lineman? Likely two new tackles with Whitehair at one G, Mustipher at C, but who is the other G? Bars filled in pretty well last year and often hear guys like Olin say that Daniels only can really play C?

I have a feeling Leno will be a cap casualty. Wouldn't be surprised if the CB drafted today starts week 1. Is Newsome the Miller replacement?

I think they're betting on the young corner backs already on the roster

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Yeah I dont think they are planning on a 6th rounder being a starter.

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Bryce Callahan - undrafted free agent. Started quite a few games.

Graham was predicted to be a 3rd or 4th rounder. Opted out last year which is probably why he dropped.

You never know.

I'm talking about Vildor or Shelley. Vildor actually looked good last year.

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Have to hope one of the young OLB's can develop and take reps from Quinn, who is at best a situational pass rusher at this point, and provide quality back up reps for Mack. Agree with Peoria Matt that the Snowden kid is an interesting prospect who could contribute if healthy.

Nas is right on, the later round CB's Pace has been stockpiling over the past few years must get on the field and contribute this year.

Heard a lot of talk that the two OT's they drafted are an indication they want to run more outside zone which makes sense with Fields at QB, it would work well, especially if Fields shows the ability to read the D and actually complete long throws that Mitch either never saw or would sail 5 yards out of bounds.

It sure would be nice if the C we took in the second round who, at the time, was the most ready C prospect in the draft could actually play C better than an undrafted free agent. I cannot deny the the OL looked not just better but different in character when Mustipher and Barrs started.

You don't just take the five best linemen and mold them into an OL. Everyone just assumes Jenkens is something. I'd be happy if he proved himself better than Ifedi and started at RT this year. Maybe next year he can show himself to be more.

Leno is your LT next year. Get used to that truth. He is probably there next year as well, since we don't have a first round draft pick and nobody is letting a good player at the position walk in FA.

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Mustipher will continue to struggle against big, strong NT's for teams that play the 3-4.

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Mustipher seems like a very nice backup, but I don't think he's quite starting material--unless he makes a leap in the offseason. Unfortunately, Daniels doesn't look like a starter either, though some say he was starting to "take off" before the injury last year.

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On another note, I really like how the Bears drafted a few maulers known for their physicality and mean streaks--Jenkins, Borom, and Tonga have all been described this way.

On one scouting report I read for Tonga, it said something like "He needs to be convinced that he doesn't have to kill guys on every play. Sometimes just tackling them is enough."

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I'm very interested in seeing Borom on the field, especially given Pace's remarks that he has lost some weight and "transformed" his body. This might allow him to stay at right tackle so the Bears can try Jenkins at left tackle.

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Call me a bigot and I know I'm stereotyping, but there is just something comforting about having a pacific islander nose tackle

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absolutely agree. Been too long since we have had some ass whippers

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See how brilliant I am?

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Pace had to throw bad paper at positions he either whiffed on in the draft or for whatever reason refused to draft. This draft is a radical departure because he seems to have finally realized that you actually have to spend high picks on offensive tackles, sure you can overpay for the position or try to plug with late round guys, but your gonna get exactly what they had early last year an overpaid average to below average line.

Getting rid of Leno and Massie saves a ton of cap space and more than likely will result in better oline play. Wondering if a few other highly paid, yet underproducing vets will be cut.

Can Ifedi play LT.

I just want a scenario that does not screw with Jenkins development. I don't think starting him at LT is the best idea for his career.

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I do think veteran FA LT is the solution. I’m not sure anybody out there is significantly better than Leno, but I don’t know that starting a short armed run blocker at LT on his first day in the NFL is a great idea.

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Is Russell Okung any good anymore? Jason Peters is also available, though he's just about 40 years old. Maybe they'll just sign Leno back at a reduced price.

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Honestly I think that’s the best option*. Guys like Okung and Fisher are out there for a reason. If you buy into the PFF rankings, Leno is a serviceable, albeit uninspiring, starting tackle.

If Jenkins truly was the plan at LT all along, I’m going to assume Pace got itchy after winning a few plaudits for his draft and is trying to find a way to fuck it up.

* best option but seems highly, highly unlikely.

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I dont mind giving him a chance at LT, but they better have another plan just in case.

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We need a ‘comments that didn’t age well’ thread for this forum lol. I’m sure we’ve all had more than our fair share of these.


Rube and Hawaii are disqualified tho or else it would just be 35 pages of their quotes

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They will likely give Jenkins a shot at LT and Borom a long look at RT, if those guys succeed you have your line figured out for the next 5-10 years.

Interestingly will have a young and hopefully ascending offense paired with an old and descending defense. There is a very real possibility the D could unravel this year given the age of the unit and the inexperience at DC. Think they likely bring in at least one vet d lineman, a lot of uncertainty given the age of Hicks and with not knowing what type of shape Goldman will be in when/if he shows up.

I wouldn't worry about Jenkins. His tape and nasty streak stand out.

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Any time I hear mean streak I think Gabe Carimi.

Hopefully the guy is more like Olin or Incognito, but I’ll take a guy who can adequately stand in front of someone else irrespective of attitude.

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As a proven commodity I like Goldman.. but don’t sleep on the late round NT pick in Tonga. That kid may wind up one of the steals of the draft.

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Agreed.

Daniel Jeremiah also picked Graham as one of the steals of the draft, and a lot of people like Herbert and Newsome as well.

I have a good feeling about Borom based on his recent commitment to shedding some weight so he can be lighter on his feet.

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I think people need to stop treating Borom like a plug and play pick similar to Jenkins. I don't think he is ready to start in the NFL immediately.

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