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What is the federal nexus for this to be a plea for federal reparations?

I see that the producer is analogizing it with the 9/11 victim fund. That is a disaster relief fund. I can see issuing money as disaster relief. Framing it as reparations implies an injury caused by the repairing party. Did the federal government play a role I am not aware of? Educate me if I'm ignorant of facts

Iirc there was a bombing done by the U.S. military.


No. :lol: You don't recall this because it never happened.

Ok, I should've said that when I first heard about this in the eighties, one of the stories I heard was that people either in the military or under color of law were bombing the Greenwood district. Either way, no one knows because dipshits like you refused to investigate and then blamed the evil black people who deserved it.

And didn't want this American history discussed.

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You can discuss it all you want. It wasn't a one-sided riot. Black people and white people killed each other. White people also attacked other white people. This also happened 100 years ago. More black people will be murdered in Chicago this month than were killed during this, but this long ago event will be fetishized and turned into a holy event for this new Woke religion.

There was terrible mass rioting and looting across the country that was lead by a black activist movement. Last year. Not generations ago. But no one wants to discuss that. I watched black gangs destroy the majority white business district in Chicago. It's not discussed like it's a religious sacrifice. History is ugly, but looking back on it and putting original sin on people who had nothing to do with it accomplishes nothing.

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You can discuss it all you want. It wasn't a one-sided riot. Black people and white people killed each other. White people also attacked other white people. This also happened 100 years ago. More black people will be murdered in Chicago this month than were killed during this, but this long ago event will be fetishized and turned into a holy event for this new Woke religion.

There was terrible mass rioting and looting across the country that was lead by a black activist movement. Last year. Not generations ago. But no one wants to discuss that. I watched black gangs destroy the majority white business district in Chicago. It's not discussed like it's a religious sacrifice. History is ugly, but looking back on it and putting original sin on people who had nothing to do with it accomplishes nothing.


Why do you do this? What do you get out of this? You're not going to change anyone's mind and your mind isn't going to be changed. What are we doing here?

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You can discuss it all you want. It wasn't a one-sided riot. Black people and white people killed each other. White people also attacked other white people. This also happened 100 years ago. More black people will be murdered in Chicago this month than were killed during this, but this long ago event will be fetishized and turned into a holy event for this new Woke religion.

There was terrible mass rioting and looting across the country that was lead by a black activist movement. Last year. Not generations ago. But no one wants to discuss that. I watched black gangs destroy the majority white business district in Chicago. It's not discussed like it's a religious sacrifice. History is ugly, but looking back on it and putting original sin on people who had nothing to do with it accomplishes nothing.


Why do you do this? What do you get out of this? You're not going to change anyone's mind and your mind isn't going to be changed. What are we doing here?

This board is a nice anonymous escape to complain about black people for several folks on here who are likely too cowardly to posit these opinions in polite company in real life.

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You can discuss it all you want. It wasn't a one-sided riot. Black people and white people killed each other. White people also attacked other white people. This also happened 100 years ago. More black people will be murdered in Chicago this month than were killed during this, but this long ago event will be fetishized and turned into a holy event for this new Woke religion.

There was terrible mass rioting and looting across the country that was lead by a black activist movement. Last year. Not generations ago. But no one wants to discuss that. I watched black gangs destroy the majority white business district in Chicago. It's not discussed like it's a religious sacrifice. History is ugly, but looking back on it and putting original sin on people who had nothing to do with it accomplishes nothing.


Why do you do this? What do you get out of this? You're not going to change anyone's mind and your mind isn't going to be changed. What are we doing here?

This board is a nice anonymous escape to complain about black people for several folks on here who are likely too cowardly to posit these opinions in polite company in real life.


You both are full of shit. How does what I say "complain about black folk"? Does Spiral react like this when Reader tells Leash to kill himself? Or when Reader makes up stories about the US Army bombing civilians in 1921? No. I get it. You think this makes you on the right side of history or something like that. History is complicated and blaming people alive now for past injustice is stupid. Really controversial.

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Literally your entire sole reason for posting on here is to complain about black people. It’s been your calling card for awhile and it’s silly for you to even deny it. Every person here knows that’s what 90%+ of your posts will be about.

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Literally your entire sole reason for posting on here is to complain about black people. It’s been your calling card for awhile and it’s silly for you to even deny it. Every person here knows that’s what 90%+ of your posts will be about.


You fumble about here whenever the topic goes beyond Packers good, Bears bad. Harper kicked your ass, so don't bring some I'm enlightened and better than you act here. Every major American city had a race riot last year. I said that this current line of race-focused justice movement was dangerous, and I was proven right. You just have ignorance, and threats of attacking me as your argument. I never said that black people don't deserve equal rights or anything approaching that. I've just said that this social justice movement is anything but justice.

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Harper kicked my ass? :lol: You know about as much about my transcript there as you do American history.

But yeah, everyone knows how you feel about black people. You wear it on your sleeve with every post you continue to make. Nice of you to concede they should have equal rights though. Mighty white of you.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
You can discuss it all you want. It wasn't a one-sided riot. Black people and white people killed each other. White people also attacked other white people. This also happened 100 years ago. More black people will be murdered in Chicago this month than were killed during this, but this long ago event will be fetishized and turned into a holy event for this new Woke religion.

There was terrible mass rioting and looting across the country that was lead by a black activist movement. Last year. Not generations ago. But no one wants to discuss that. I watched black gangs destroy the majority white business district in Chicago. It's not discussed like it's a religious sacrifice. History is ugly, but looking back on it and putting original sin on people who had nothing to do with it accomplishes nothing.


Why do you do this? What do you get out of this? You're not going to change anyone's mind and your mind isn't going to be changed. What are we doing here?

This board is a nice anonymous escape to complain about black people for several folks on here who are likely too cowardly to posit these opinions in polite company in real life.


You both are full of shit. How does what I say "complain about black folk"? Does Spiral react like this when Reader tells Leash to kill himself? Or when Reader makes up stories about the US Army bombing civilians in 1921? No. I get it. You think this makes you on the right side of history or something like that. History is complicated and blaming people alive now for past injustice is stupid. Really controversial.


Reader actually acknowledged that he was wrong when presented with information contrary to his initial argument. Granted he threw in a dig at you while doing so but he admitted he was wrong. You on the other hand can't resist digging in your heels. And when you're confronted with information you dont like you lash out.

You are compelled to Both Sides! pretty much every thread. You know enough about the Tulsa riots to know that the US Army didn't bomb blacks, but state blacks also killed whites during the riot without stating why they might have done that.

You want to rug sweep every bad thing that's ever happened but then act like Western Civilization is in complete collapse if video of a black dude punching a white dude isn't the lead story on CNN.

And anyone that wished death on leash is a fucking asshole regardless of political affiliation.

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You can discuss it all you want. It wasn't a one-sided riot. Black people and white people killed each other. White people also attacked other white people. This also happened 100 years ago. More black people will be murdered in Chicago this month than were killed during this, but this long ago event will be fetishized and turned into a holy event for this new Woke religion.

There was terrible mass rioting and looting across the country that was lead by a black activist movement. Last year. Not generations ago. But no one wants to discuss that. I watched black gangs destroy the majority white business district in Chicago. It's not discussed like it's a religious sacrifice. History is ugly, but looking back on it and putting original sin on people who had nothing to do with it accomplishes nothing.

You need help.

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You can discuss it all you want. It wasn't a one-sided riot. Black people and white people killed each other. White people also attacked other white people. This also happened 100 years ago. More black people will be murdered in Chicago this month than were killed during this, but this long ago event will be fetishized and turned into a holy event for this new Woke religion.

There was terrible mass rioting and looting across the country that was lead by a black activist movement. Last year. Not generations ago. But no one wants to discuss that. I watched black gangs destroy the majority white business district in Chicago. It's not discussed like it's a religious sacrifice. History is ugly, but looking back on it and putting original sin on people who had nothing to do with it accomplishes nothing.

You need help.


:lol: Sure perfectly reasonable. Look for that Klan in Columbia, Mo.

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In this instance, it wasn’t a clear cut ‘whites destroying black neighborhood’ (at least at the start). It was an armed standoff and widely accepted that a black person shot first. If memory serves, that may have been an accident but the response was an actual racial shooting war.

Just a fucked up situation in many ways and I have a difficult time analogizing it to anything in modern history.

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It's remarkable how some are so emotional about EVERYTHING and every topic becomes a referendum on America and wokeness. If something happened/happens to PREFERRED whites, it is a sign that America is collapsing. If something happens to the balcks or others, they do everything possible to dismiss it or tie it to Chicago murders. It's remarkable how they land on the same conclusion every single time. All preferred whites are good and the real victims no matter what. The free thinkers say that makes you an intellectual.

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In this instance, it wasn’t a clear cut ‘whites destroying black neighborhood’ (at least at the start). It was an armed standoff and widely accepted that a black person shot first. If memory serves, that may have been an accident but the response was an actual racial shooting war.

Just a fucked up situation in many ways and I have a difficult time analogizing it to anything in modern history.


This comes from the book you shared, right?

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SpiralStairs wrote:
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SpiralStairs wrote:
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You can discuss it all you want. It wasn't a one-sided riot. Black people and white people killed each other. White people also attacked other white people. This also happened 100 years ago. More black people will be murdered in Chicago this month than were killed during this, but this long ago event will be fetishized and turned into a holy event for this new Woke religion.

There was terrible mass rioting and looting across the country that was lead by a black activist movement. Last year. Not generations ago. But no one wants to discuss that. I watched black gangs destroy the majority white business district in Chicago. It's not discussed like it's a religious sacrifice. History is ugly, but looking back on it and putting original sin on people who had nothing to do with it accomplishes nothing.


Why do you do this? What do you get out of this? You're not going to change anyone's mind and your mind isn't going to be changed. What are we doing here?

This board is a nice anonymous escape to complain about black people for several folks on here who are likely too cowardly to posit these opinions in polite company in real life.


You both are full of shit. How does what I say "complain about black folk"? Does Spiral react like this when Reader tells Leash to kill himself? Or when Reader makes up stories about the US Army bombing civilians in 1921? No. I get it. You think this makes you on the right side of history or something like that. History is complicated and blaming people alive now for past injustice is stupid. Really controversial.


Reader actually acknowledged that he was wrong when presented with information contrary to his initial argument. Granted he threw in a dig at you while doing so but he admitted he was wrong. You on the other hand can't resist digging in your heels. And when you're confronted with information you dont like you lash out.

You are compelled to Both Sides! pretty much every thread. You know enough about the Tulsa riots to know that the US Army didn't bomb blacks, but state blacks also killed whites during the riot without stating why they might have done that.

You want to rug sweep every bad thing that's ever happened but then act like Western Civilization is in complete collapse if video of a black dude punching a white dude isn't the lead story on CNN.

And anyone that wished death on leash is a fucking asshole regardless of political affiliation.


Well Reader did that. Did you ask him to fix his rhetoric on the board? Do you want to bring up every bad thing that's happened in \ Africa as an excuse to riot and burn shit down? That's what happened here last summer. For the last 40 years black murders on whites have been significantly more than vice versa. Should we get a group and burn down black neighborhoods? You don't have an argument. It's all shallow... wait for it... rhetoric.

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In this instance, it wasn’t a clear cut ‘whites destroying black neighborhood’ (at least at the start). It was an armed standoff and widely accepted that a black person shot first. If memory serves, that may have been an accident but the response was an actual racial shooting war.

Just a fucked up situation in many ways and I have a difficult time analogizing it to anything in modern history.


This comes from the book you shared, right?

Well recollection of a book I read 5+ years ago, yeah (so take it with a heap of salt).

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Nas wrote:
It's remarkable how some are so emotional about EVERYTHING and every topic becomes a referendum on America and wokeness. If something happened/happens to PREFERRED whites, it is a sign that America is collapsing. If something happens to the balcks or others, they do everything possible to dismiss it or tie it to Chicago murders. It's remarkable how they land on the same conclusion every single time. All preferred whites are good and the real victims no matter what. The free thinkers say that makes you an intellectual.

Why were America and Toxic banned? I'm guessing because they weren't begging to blow a moderator while posting the best intellectual thoughts. Ass kissing ftw!


Nas is so painfully stupid that he shows the difficultly of having a functional society while having inclusivity as a value.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
You can discuss it all you want. It wasn't a one-sided riot. Black people and white people killed each other. White people also attacked other white people. This also happened 100 years ago. More black people will be murdered in Chicago this month than were killed during this, but this long ago event will be fetishized and turned into a holy event for this new Woke religion.

There was terrible mass rioting and looting across the country that was lead by a black activist movement. Last year. Not generations ago. But no one wants to discuss that. I watched black gangs destroy the majority white business district in Chicago. It's not discussed like it's a religious sacrifice. History is ugly, but looking back on it and putting original sin on people who had nothing to do with it accomplishes nothing.


Why do you do this? What do you get out of this? You're not going to change anyone's mind and your mind isn't going to be changed. What are we doing here?

This board is a nice anonymous escape to complain about black people for several folks on here who are likely too cowardly to posit these opinions in polite company in real life.


You both are full of shit. How does what I say "complain about black folk"? Does Spiral react like this when Reader tells Leash to kill himself? Or when Reader makes up stories about the US Army bombing civilians in 1921? No. I get it. You think this makes you on the right side of history or something like that. History is complicated and blaming people alive now for past injustice is stupid. Really controversial.


Reader actually acknowledged that he was wrong when presented with information contrary to his initial argument. Granted he threw in a dig at you while doing so but he admitted he was wrong. You on the other hand can't resist digging in your heels. And when you're confronted with information you dont like you lash out.

You are compelled to Both Sides! pretty much every thread. You know enough about the Tulsa riots to know that the US Army didn't bomb blacks, but state blacks also killed whites during the riot without stating why they might have done that.

You want to rug sweep every bad thing that's ever happened but then act like Western Civilization is in complete collapse if video of a black dude punching a white dude isn't the lead story on CNN.

And anyone that wished death on leash is a fucking asshole regardless of political affiliation.


Well Reader did that. Did you ask him to fix his rhetoric on the board? Do you want to bring up every bad thing that's happened in \ Africa as an excuse to riot and burn shit down? That's what happened here last summer. For the last 40 years black murders on whites have been significantly more than vice versa. Should we get a group and burn down black neighborhoods? You don't have an argument. It's all shallow... wait for it... rhetoric.


It was a dick move for Reader to tell leash to kill himself. He shouldnt have said it. I have no idea what you're trying to argue in the rest of your post.

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When 20 or so black on black shootings happen this weekend, trash like Nas will come back to try to destroy the board and blame anyone who says this is fucked. If you want to see why Chicago is in such terrible shape look at community "leaders" who come here to bitch about posters on this message board and bring up 100 year old riots at topics.

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It was a dick move for Reader to tell leash to kill himself. He shouldnt have said it. I have no idea what you're trying to argue in the rest of your post.


You know exactly what I am saying. To dismiss black on black violent is bullshit. We are all human we are all equal. To play this game of focusing on police or other incidents isn't solving a real problem. And you know it.

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You have to wonder if these intellectual ideas were passed down, if a balck girl told them they weren't interested, if they were passed over by a balck for a job or got their ass kicked by a balck. The hate runs so deep. You hate to see anyone consumed by so much misplaced hate. It'll eventually kill you.

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It was a dick move for Reader to tell leash to kill himself. He shouldnt have said it. I have no idea what you're trying to argue in the rest of your post.


You know exactly what I am saying. To dismiss black on black violent is bullshit. We are all human we are all equal. To play this game of focusing on police or other incidents isn't solving a real problem. And you know it.


You fear that woke culture can shape the future of Western Civilization but deny any influence that past racism may have influenced the present. Why is one aspect of culture allowed to dictate the shape of the future but another has no impact whatsoever?

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You have to wonder if these intellectual ideas were passed down, if a balck girl told them they weren't interested, if they were passed over by a balck for a job or got their ass kicked by a balck. The hate runs so deep. You hate to see anyone consumed by so much misplaced hate. It'll eventually kill you.


Ever notice that this guy doesn't interact with any of the generally accepted good guys around here and has little interaction on friendly levels with anyone here. He's so antisocial that if he isn't rage/race posting he does nothing. Hell, he can't find a pleasant common ground with anyone here on a 18 year old sports message board.

Yeah, his hate runs deep.

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You have to wonder if these intellectual ideas were passed down, if a balck girl told them they weren't interested, if they were passed over by a balck for a job or got their ass kicked by a balck. The hate runs so deep. You hate to see anyone consumed by so much misplaced hate. It'll eventually kill you.


Ever notice that this guy doesn't interact with any of the generally accepted good guys around here and has little interaction on friendly levels with anyone here. He's so antisocial that if he isn't rage/race posting he does nothing. Hell, he can't find a pleasant common ground with anyone here on a 18 year old sports message board.

Yeah, his hate runs deep.


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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 12:24 am 
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SpiralStairs wrote:

You fear that woke culture can shape the future of Western Civilization but deny any influence that past racism may have influenced the present. Why is one aspect of culture allowed to dictate the shape of the future but another has no impact whatsoever?


clear evidence of racism in the past - did influence the future. for the good. white people were nearly 90% of the usa population in 1960. if the usa was inherently and hopelessly racist, the civil rights movement would have been snuffed out in minutes. 60 years ago, millions of whites were galvanized to support (directly or indirectly) the civil rights movement by dr. king, by backwards racists, some by religion and many by the obvious hypocrisy. i'm not saying it was easy for people of color; as dr. king and other black americans did the heavy lifting...and the worm turned. the usa had it's faults prior to, and after 1776. the usa righted it's own ship with guidance from dr. king and others.

if this was 1963, personally, i would not reject the civil rights movement.

this is 2021 and i comprehensively reject 2021's woke culture's platform(s).


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