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Love that wfr tried to disagree with me in this thread saying his only reason for existing here is to complain about black people, and then spent his next several posts complaining about black people :lol:

Here’s a hint - there’s a reason even half (at least) of the more conservative leaning posters here hate you man. It’s because you’re a clear bigot and just an asshole in general. And you like to call others simple and talk about college and meanwhile most of your posts contain as many typos as a Julie tweet and every post you make is just a simpler more reductive version of a jorr post from that same day.

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but deny any influence that past racism may have influenced the present.


so..what occurred in 1921 can fit in nicely in calendar year 2021?

that placement on the timeline skips over dozens of supreme & federal court rulings/laws/executive orders from the 50s-60s-70s-80s..etc., that have combatted and snuffed out racism at the institutional level.

so, if a white woman and a black guy were carrying on in 1921 tulsa, didn't the u.s. supreme court rule in 1967, that states' anti-miscegenation laws were unconstitutional?? wasn't that the spark of the tulsa riots? did white people believe they had the law protecting them? what happened in 1967? on what basis does woke culture believe 1921 tulsa is relevant today?


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Our old pal JC lived 2000 years ago and we still feel His influence today. There's an entire thread on this website about COVID masks signaling the end of the American empire.

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You have to wonder if these intellectual ideas were passed down, if a balck girl told them they weren't interested, if they were passed over by a balck for a job or got their ass kicked by a balck. The hate runs so deep. You hate to see anyone consumed by so much misplaced hate. It'll eventually kill you.


Ever notice that this guy doesn't interact with any of the generally accepted good guys around here and has little interaction on friendly levels with anyone here. He's so antisocial that if he isn't rage/race posting he does nothing. Hell, he can't find a pleasant common ground with anyone here on a 18 year old sports message board.

Yeah, his hate runs deep.


They're hurting. Something as simple as a hug could start the healing process.


as much as this is mocked (especially, ironically, by the alt-left society), it's true. daryl davis converted dozens of KKK members with compassion, not finger-pointing and chastising.

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if this was 1963, personally, i would not reject the civil rights movement.

Pretty cool.

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if this was 1963, personally, i would not reject the civil rights movement.

Pretty cool.


He is brave.


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Wait, there's a list of good guys here?

Usually, if you don't know about it, you are not on it. I can feel sadness creeping in as Friday begins.

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You have to wonder if these intellectual ideas were passed down, if a balck girl told them they weren't interested, if they were passed over by a balck for a job or got their ass kicked by a balck. The hate runs so deep. You hate to see anyone consumed by so much misplaced hate. It'll eventually kill you.


Ever notice that this guy doesn't interact with any of the generally accepted good guys around here and has little interaction on friendly levels with anyone here. He's so antisocial that if he isn't rage/race posting he does nothing. Hell, he can't find a pleasant common ground with anyone here on a 18 year old sports message board.

Yeah, his hate runs deep.


They're hurting. Something as simple as a hug could start the healing process.


as much as this is mocked (especially, ironically, by the alt-left society), it's true. daryl davis converted dozens of KKK members with compassion, not finger-pointing and chastising.

even bullies, sometimes especially bullies, also need an embrace.


I completely agree. It's so easy to believe people are irredeemable though. I'm definitely guilty of this.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 8:44 am 
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Our old pal JC lived 2000 years ago and we still feel His influence today. There's an entire thread on this website about COVID masks signaling the end of the American empire.


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Younger Americans are reshaping the country with a philosophy of life that rejects faith in God and organized worship at the same time defining success and morality in terms of personal happiness and economic social justice, a survey from the Cultural Research Center (CRC) at Arizona Christian University found.

The American Worldview Inventory (AWVI) 2021, an annual survey that examines the perspectives of adults aged 18 and over in the United States, found that while 57 percent of Millennials (born 1984-2002) consider themselves to be Christian, 43 percent “don’t know, care, or believe that God exists.”


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NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Our old pal JC lived 2000 years ago and we still feel His influence today. There's an entire thread on this website about COVID masks signaling the end of the American empire.


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Survey: 43% of Millennials ‘Don’t Know, Care, or Believe God Exists’


https://honestcolumnist.com/news/survey-43-of-millennials-dont-know-care-or-believe-god-exists/

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Younger Americans are reshaping the country with a philosophy of life that rejects faith in God and organized worship at the same time defining success and morality in terms of personal happiness and economic social justice, a survey from the Cultural Research Center (CRC) at Arizona Christian University found.

The American Worldview Inventory (AWVI) 2021, an annual survey that examines the perspectives of adults aged 18 and over in the United States, found that while 57 percent of Millennials (born 1984-2002) consider themselves to be Christian, 43 percent “don’t know, care, or believe that God exists.”


A non-majority of millennials being atheists means our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ had zero impact on the world after He died? That's a bit of a stretch don't you think? I also notice you glossed over people's present concern about the influence of COVID masks irretrievably altering the future.

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no, no, no.

it seems as though you are skipping over a challenge to your hypothesis about past racism and 'woke culture', going forward.

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You fear that woke culture can shape the future of Western Civilization but deny any influence that past racism may have influenced the present. Why is one aspect of culture allowed to dictate the shape of the future but another has no impact whatsoever?


you must have missed the part about 6-7 decades worth of supreme court & federal court rulings, bills introduced and subsequently passed as laws along with presidential executive orders that have snuffed out institutional racism.

any legal 'defense' of organized or wanton violence by white americans against people of color, such as what occurred in 1921 tulsa has been eradicated. do you agree? if you disagree, what further impact should 1921 tulsa have upon the usa - going forward? the history lesson is important. the part where the usa redeemed itself, doesn't seem to fit a narrative i see in today's usa.

what impact and influence should 1921 tulsa have upon 2021 usa?

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A non-majority of millennials being atheists means our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ had zero impact on the world after He died?


really? find where i said Christ's death had zero impact on the world after He died.

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Our old pal JC lived 2000 years ago and we still feel His influence today.


the article tells me that TODAY, Christ's impact upon the world may be lessoning.

i believe that BLM - the main thrust of 'woke' america..is against the nuclear family. the nuclear family is biblical. BLM founders are trained marxists. i was taught that marxists are atheists.

i'm not so sure you're holding the right end of stick on this.


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Most threads are pretty rough for WFR, but this was particularly brutal for him :lol:

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Most of the Trump Cult on this board don't believe in Jesus Christ and they routinely mock anyone who does. Cheeto Jesus is the guy they worship. After all, he's the last line of defense for preferred heterosexual white men and western culture.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
You have to wonder if these intellectual ideas were passed down, if a balck girl told them they weren't interested, if they were passed over by a balck for a job or got their ass kicked by a balck. The hate runs so deep. You hate to see anyone consumed by so much misplaced hate. It'll eventually kill you.


Ever notice that this guy doesn't interact with any of the generally accepted good guys around here and has little interaction on friendly levels with anyone here. He's so antisocial that if he isn't rage/race posting he does nothing. Hell, he can't find a pleasant common ground with anyone here on a 18 year old sports message board.

Yeah, his hate runs deep.


They're hurting. Something as simple as a hug could start the healing process.


as much as this is mocked (especially, ironically, by the alt-left society), it's true. daryl davis converted dozens of KKK members with compassion, not finger-pointing and chastising.

even bullies, sometimes especially bullies, also need an embrace.


I completely agree. It's so easy to believe people are irredeemable though. I'm definitely guilty of this.


Hugs not hate!

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no, no, no.

it seems as though you are skipping over a challenge to your hypothesis about past racism and 'woke culture', going forward.

you said:

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You fear that woke culture can shape the future of Western Civilization but deny any influence that past racism may have influenced the present. Why is one aspect of culture allowed to dictate the shape of the future but another has no impact whatsoever?


you must have missed the part about 6-7 decades worth of supreme court & federal court rulings, bills introduced and subsequently passed as laws along with presidential executive orders that have snuffed out institutional racism.

any legal 'defense' of organized or wanton violence by white americans against people of color, such as what occurred in 1921 tulsa has been eradicated. do you agree? if you disagree, what further impact should 1921 tulsa have upon the usa - going forward? the history lesson is important. the part where the usa redeemed itself, doesn't seem to fit a narrative i see in today's usa.

what impact and influence should 1921 tulsa have upon 2021 usa?

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A non-majority of millennials being atheists means our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ had zero impact on the world after He died?


really? find where i said Christ's death had zero impact on the world after He died.

you said:

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Our old pal JC lived 2000 years ago and we still feel His influence today.


the article tells me that TODAY, Christ's impact upon the world may be lessoning.

i believe that BLM - the main thrust of 'woke' america..is against the nuclear family. the nuclear family is biblical. BLM founders are trained marxists. i was taught that marxists are atheists.

i'm not so sure you're holding the right end of stick on this.



Yes. Court rulings and federal legislation have largely eliminated what could essentially be categorized as "legalized racism". Certainly no denying that. The impact of which I'm speaking has been brought up a few times on this bored by other posters. That is, the lasting impact caused by the denial of equal protection under the law over several generations. If Tulsa had been the only incident in American history where whites clashed with blacks then it would be disingenuous for me to claim that were still feeling the ripple effects from that single event. For MANY years an entire population was restricted in their ability to generate and pass on wealth to future generations. Tulsa was just one event among many that (I believe) shaped the country as it is today.

I'm paraphrasing but WFR's position has been that the passage of the Civil Rights Act essentially undid all the bad stuff that ever happened to the balcks. Once the Act was passed it was all calm seas and fair winds for black people. Any attempt to engage with him on that position goes nowhere. His mind is made up.

Christ's influence may be waning, but He had a fairly outsized influence on world history in the two millennia since His death.

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This NWsider seems to be in lockstep with WFR. Civil Rights legislation has eliminated all structural, systemic and general racism in the USA.

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Most threads are pretty rough for WFR, but this was particularly brutal for him :lol:

I’ve gotta say, in my time here, I’ve rarely seen anybody try to engage WFR on the merits of what he’s actually saying.

Typically it’s people just telling him he hates black people and declaring victory on those grounds. The founding fathers thread from a few weeks back was a great example. He made a statement that wasn’t terribly controversial, then several of us spent the better part of a few pages going back & forth with all sides acknowledging that yes, he’s right, but MANY thought that was irrelevant because racism.

I’m ignorant of much of the history you all share, but responding to post-not-poster seems to go out the window with anything WFR puts on the board.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:

I’m ignorant of much of the history you all share, but responding to post-not-poster seems to go out the window with anything WFR puts on the board.


i don't believe that for one second, but to your second part...welcome to the internet.

you seem to know your way around making avatars at least.


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I’ve gotta say, in my time here, I’ve rarely seen anybody try to engage WFR on the merits of what he’s actually saying.


I have. A lot.

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Love that wfr tried to disagree with me in this thread saying his only reason for existing here is to complain about black people, and then spent his next several posts complaining about black people :lol:

Here’s a hint - there’s a reason even half (at least) of the more conservative leaning posters here hate you man. It’s because you’re a clear bigot and just an asshole in general. And you like to call others simple and talk about college and meanwhile most of your posts contain as many typos as a Julie tweet and every post you make is just a simpler more reductive version of a jorr post from that same day.


You are literally human garbage. I have multiple degrees from Universities own multiple homes and live in a mansion with my family. You get to be a braggart on the internet. I laugh at you everyday you fat fuck loser nothing.

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It was a dick move for Reader to tell leash to kill himself. He shouldnt have said it. I have no idea what you're trying to argue in the rest of your post.


You know exactly what I am saying. To dismiss black on black violent is bullshit. We are all human we are all equal. To play this game of focusing on police or other incidents isn't solving a real problem. And you know it.


You fear that woke culture can shape the future of Western Civilization but deny any influence that past racism may have influenced the present. Why is one aspect of culture allowed to dictate the shape of the future but another has no impact whatsoever?


You do realize how stupid this is right?

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No dude I'm a real dumbass. Educate me by calling me a cuck or something.

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No dude I'm a real dumbass. Educate me by calling me a cuck or something.


You are a general education major from a directional school siding with a drug addict community college dropout. You are both really stupid.

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No dude I'm a real dumbass. Educate me by calling me a cuck or something.


You are a general education major from a directional school siding with a drug addict community college dropout. You are both really stupid.


I also have filthy clothes. Anything else you want to add?

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I'm paraphrasing but WFR's position has been that the passage of the Civil Rights Act essentially undid all the bad stuff that ever happened to the balcks. Once the Act was passed it was all calm seas and fair winds for black people. Any attempt to engage with him on that position goes nowhere. His mind is made up.



you seem eager to debate wfr over cause and effect vs. what constitutes redemption. i never said life was rainbows and ribbons for american blacks after this ruling or that legislation.


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This NWsider seems to be in lockstep with WFR. Civil Rights legislation has eliminated all structural, systemic and general racism in the USA.


let's see...systemic vs. extrinsic.

proven extrinsic racist hoaxes trying to get passed off as proof of systemic racism. plenty of examples in recent times.

nazi germany was a declared racist state. racism was systemic. under the nuremberg laws, did german jews need to perpetrate hoaxes to convince the rest of the world of their plight?

when you discover how to legislate, how to eliminate bigotry as a human characteristic, let me know.


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Love that wfr tried to disagree with me in this thread saying his only reason for existing here is to complain about black people, and then spent his next several posts complaining about black people :lol:

Here’s a hint - there’s a reason even half (at least) of the more conservative leaning posters here hate you man. It’s because you’re a clear bigot and just an asshole in general. And you like to call others simple and talk about college and meanwhile most of your posts contain as many typos as a Julie tweet and every post you make is just a simpler more reductive version of a jorr post from that same day.


You are literally human garbage. I have multiple degrees from Universities own multiple homes and live in a mansion with my family. You get to be a braggart on the internet. I laugh at you everyday you fat fuck loser nothing.


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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Most threads are pretty rough for WFR, but this was particularly brutal for him :lol:

I’ve gotta say, in my time here, I’ve rarely seen anybody try to engage WFR on the merits of what he’s actually saying.

Typically it’s people just telling him he hates black people and declaring victory on those grounds. The founding fathers thread from a few weeks back was a great example. He made a statement that wasn’t terribly controversial, then several of us spent the better part of a few pages going back & forth with all sides acknowledging that yes, he’s right, but MANY thought that was irrelevant because racism.

I’m ignorant of much of the history you all share, but responding to post-not-poster seems to go out the window with anything WFR puts on the board.

:lol:

No, this is wrong in a few points. Saying racism had nothing to do with the founding of this country “wasn’t terribly controversial” is country dumb. Full stop. And I don’t want to argue semantics but that’s his position. And people enrage with him how they do because many of us have several years of history here, and he’s a fucking asshole and he’s for the most part treated how a fucking asshole is treated. RFDC and I don’t agree on almost anything politically and we’ve always been cool with each other. When I was drunk and calling all trump voters pieces of shit he turned into a joke with us because that’s how he is. He knows I know he’s cool even if he voted for and supports trump and vice versa. Most people here still have nothing but respect for jorr even tho we couldn’t disagree with him more on most political topics. WFR is just a one note poster who clearly had a deep resentment/dislike towards black people and “woke culture” and he’s a fuckinng asshole and most posters here know that about him because we all know each other for the most part now.

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Love that wfr tried to disagree with me in this thread saying his only reason for existing here is to complain about black people, and then spent his next several posts complaining about black people :lol:

Here’s a hint - there’s a reason even half (at least) of the more conservative leaning posters here hate you man. It’s because you’re a clear bigot and just an asshole in general. And you like to call others simple and talk about college and meanwhile most of your posts contain as many typos as a Julie tweet and every post you make is just a simpler more reductive version of a jorr post from that same day.


You are literally human garbage. I have multiple degrees from Universities own multiple homes and live in a mansion with my family. You get to be a braggart on the internet. I laugh at you everyday you fat fuck loser nothing.

:lol: :lol:

You sound fucking ridiculous. Apparently none of your degrees taught you how to form a proper sentence without multiple typos and grammatical errors :lol:

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