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Everyone has played on teams. The Olympics isn’t comparable to playing sports in school. She’s 24, and has been a richly rewarded public figure for a long time. Feeling pressure, which is what she said isn’t a mental health issue.

Pressure can very easily become a mental health issue. And money doesn't enter into this equation.

And I am still convinced that you never played above jv high school, if even that high. You don't seem to understand anything about playing sports.

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Everyone has played on teams. The Olympics isn’t comparable to playing sports in school. She’s 24, and has been a richly rewarded public figure for a long time. Feeling pressure, which is what she said isn’t a mental health issue.


Never knew that wealthy people are immuned to mental health issues until I started posting here. Insightful.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Everyone has played on teams. The Olympics isn’t comparable to playing sports in school. She’s 24, and has been a richly rewarded public figure for a long time. Feeling pressure, which is what she said isn’t a mental health issue.

Pressure can very easily become a mental health issue. And money doesn't enter into this equation.

And I am still convinced that you never played above jv high school, if even that high. You don't seem to understand anything about playing sports.


Nope. Royse White was a lottery pock that never played a second in the NBA because he had panic attacks when it came to flying.

I guess he should have got over it as a 22 or 23 year old millionaire.

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Anxiety is an issue for MANY. Elite athletes are no different. This is only an issue because she's been outspoken and successful. I'm confident she isn't the only Olympian who "cracked".

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Everyone has played on teams. The Olympics isn’t comparable to playing sports in school. She’s 24, and has been a richly rewarded public figure for a long time. Feeling pressure, which is what she said isn’t a mental health issue.

Pressure can very easily become a mental health issue. And money doesn't enter into this equation.

And I am still convinced that you never played above jv high school, if even that high. You don't seem to understand anything about playing sports.


Nope. Royse White was a lottery pock that never played a second in the NBA because he had panic attacks when it came to flying.

I guess he should have got over it as a 22 or 23 year old millionaire.


We saw Rose struggle getting over the mental hurdle with his surgically repaired knee. We saw Burton lose it before a playoff game AFTER he had already won a Super Bowl. I and MANY others mocked both for selfish reasons.

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Anxiety is an issue for MANY. Elite athletes are no different. This is only an issue because she's been outspoken and successful. I'm confident she isn't the only Olympian who "cracked".
Right. Some of them clinch a gold medal seconds after tearing ankle ligaments.

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Anxiety is an issue for MANY. Elite athletes are no different. This is only an issue because she's been outspoken and successful. I'm confident she isn't the only Olympian who "cracked".
Right. Some of them clinch a gold medal seconds after tearing ankle ligaments.


True! Some have never had to perform at less than their best. Seeing or feeling like they aren't themselves has broken MANY athletes. Others find a way to adjust and still be successful.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Everyone has played on teams. The Olympics isn’t comparable to playing sports in school. She’s 24, and has been a richly rewarded public figure for a long time. Feeling pressure, which is what she said isn’t a mental health issue.

Pressure can very easily become a mental health issue. And money doesn't enter into this equation.

And I am still convinced that you never played above jv high school, if even that high. You don't seem to understand anything about playing sports.


Nope. Royse White was a lottery pock that never played a second in the NBA because he had panic attacks when it came to flying.

I guess he should have got over it as a 22 or 23 year old millionaire.


We saw Rose struggle getting over the mental hurdle with his surgically repaired knee. We saw Burton lose it before a playoff game AFTER he had already won a Super Bowl. I and MANY others mocked both for selfish reasons.

Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime. If the greatest of all time can lose the edge so can anyone else.

Absolutely wild this is going double digit pages. :lol:


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Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime.
Did he "quit" in the middle of a game?

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime.
Did he "quit" in the middle of a game?


Also, did he really retire or was he told to go away for 18 months?

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Everyone has played on teams. The Olympics isn’t comparable to playing sports in school. She’s 24, and has been a richly rewarded public figure for a long time. Feeling pressure, which is what she said isn’t a mental health issue.

Pressure can very easily become a mental health issue. And money doesn't enter into this equation.

And I am still convinced that you never played above jv high school, if even that high. You don't seem to understand anything about playing sports.


Performance anxiety isn't a mental health issue. It's part of playing a sport. A mental health issue means difficultly functioning in life. Not I am feeling pressure so I can't perform this gymnastic performance. To equate that to mental illness is insulting.

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Kirkwood wrote:
Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime.
Did he "quit" in the middle of a game?

I don't care. He quit.

This is one of the stupidest threads on CFMB which is impressive. Arguing over a woman gymnast. My goodness.


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Kirkwood wrote:
Nas wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Everyone has played on teams. The Olympics isn’t comparable to playing sports in school. She’s 24, and has been a richly rewarded public figure for a long time. Feeling pressure, which is what she said isn’t a mental health issue.

Pressure can very easily become a mental health issue. And money doesn't enter into this equation.

And I am still convinced that you never played above jv high school, if even that high. You don't seem to understand anything about playing sports.


Nope. Royse White was a lottery pock that never played a second in the NBA because he had panic attacks when it came to flying.

I guess he should have got over it as a 22 or 23 year old millionaire.


We saw Rose struggle getting over the mental hurdle with his surgically repaired knee. We saw Burton lose it before a playoff game AFTER he had already won a Super Bowl. I and MANY others mocked both for selfish reasons.

Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime. If the greatest of all time can lose the edge so can anyone else.

Absolutely wild this is going double digit pages. :lol:


In fairness, it's difficult for many of us to separate the person from the entertainer or athlete. We ASSume they should be able to overcome any "minor" issue because of their fame and wealth. We probably wouldn't do the same with a friend.

Edit: Anxiety IS a mental illness.

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Kirkwood wrote:
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Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime.
Did he "quit" in the middle of a game?

I don't care. He quit.

This is one of the stupidest threads on CFMB which is impressive. Arguing over a woman gymnast. My goodness.


Scottie pippen should have told Phil he wasn't going in for the last play because he wasn't there mentally. Would have avoided that bad pr


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Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime.
Did he "quit" in the middle of a game?


That was Pippen.


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There is a difference between struggling with mental health and mental illness.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Everyone has played on teams. The Olympics isn’t comparable to playing sports in school. She’s 24, and has been a richly rewarded public figure for a long time. Feeling pressure, which is what she said isn’t a mental health issue.

Pressure can very easily become a mental health issue. And money doesn't enter into this equation.

And I am still convinced that you never played above jv high school, if even that high. You don't seem to understand anything about playing sports.


Nope. Royse White was a lottery pock that never played a second in the NBA because he had panic attacks when it came to flying.

I guess he should have got over it as a 22 or 23 year old millionaire.


We saw Rose struggle getting over the mental hurdle with his surgically repaired knee. We saw Burton lose it before a playoff game AFTER he had already won a Super Bowl. I and MANY others mocked both for selfish reasons.

Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime. If the greatest of all time can lose the edge so can anyone else.

Absolutely wild this is going double digit pages. :lol:


In fairness, it's difficult for many of us to separate the person from the entertainer or athlete. We ASSume they should be able to overcome any "minor" issue because of their fame and wealth. We probably wouldn't do the same with a friend.

Edit: Anxiety IS a mental illness.


i don't agree with that at all; everyone has anxiety, not everybody is mentally ill. it's about handling your anxiety that makes the difference.

i can't get inside the mind of simone biles; the eye test in the video showed me nothing more than quitting. she didn't like how she landed, and said to her teammates she was done. that's how it looked. if there is more to the story, it's her story to tell.

however, the media playing this parent/teacher coddling angle is more dangerous than what people's armchair opinions are. athletes, like any other public profession, are going to be in the spotlight for criticism and for praise. you don't need to be a part of that spotlight to understand there is a price to pay for the fame. that's been known since the entertainment industry began.

someone mentioned hating on the USWNT earlier in the thread--i actually liked what rapinoe said after the loss to sweden. she wanted to see the criticism. she put it on herself, and it gave her the drive to win. that's what an elite mind does when they face adversity. like venus williams said about pressers: "i'm better than you, so have at it." you have to strengthen that part of your mental game, because it's part of life.

trying to cherry pick through life will only hurt your mental health, because you'll never be able to let anything go, or roll off your back.

i know from personal experience that criticism built me up better than praise did.


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Did he "quit" in the middle of a game?

I don't care. He quit.
Did he "quit" in the middle of a game?

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She hasnt any any previous issues overcoming whatever mental health she's suffering from which was never mentioned that suddenly manifested itself after a subpar routine.

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i know from personal experience that criticism built me up better than praise did.
How's this for criticism? Um...you stink. How do like that criticism? You know what's funny to me? That diploma up on the wall. That is my idea of "com-med-dee"! You sitting here, telling people what to do!

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In fairness, it's difficult for many of us to separate the person from the entertainer or athlete. We ASSume they should be able to overcome any "minor" issue because of their fame and wealth. We probably wouldn't do the same with a friend.

Edit: Anxiety IS a mental illness.


i don't agree with that at all; everyone has anxiety, not everybody is mentally ill. it's about handling your anxiety that makes the difference.

i can't get inside the mind of simone biles; the eye test in the video showed me nothing more than quitting. she didn't like how she landed, and said to her teammates she was done. that's how it looked. if there is more to the story, it's her story to tell.

however, the media playing this parent/teacher coddling angle is more dangerous than what people's armchair opinions are. athletes, like any other public profession, are going to be in the spotlight for criticism and for praise. you don't need to be a part of that spotlight to understand there is a price to pay for the fame. that's been known since the entertainment industry began.

someone mentioned hating on the USWNT earlier in the thread--i actually liked what rapinoe said after the loss to sweden. she wanted to see the criticism. she put it on herself, and it gave her the drive to win. that's what an elite mind does when they face adversity. like venus williams said about pressers: "i'm better than you, so have at it." you have to strengthen that part of your mental game, because it's part of life.

trying to cherry pick through life will only hurt your mental health, because you'll never be able to let anything go, or roll off your back.

i know from personal experience that criticism built me up better than praise did.


You have to remove yourself from the equation. I've been told the same thing a million times in my life. Especially being with someone who works in the mental health field. Anxiety, depression and MANY other issues that will all deal with at times in our lives just don't affect us all the same way. There is no "magic" solution that makes everyone better. In a different environment praise and positive reinforcement could have led to you being just as good of a person as you are today.

I didn't see the video and I have no interest in looking at it. I just saw kinda looked at the last 2 pages around mental health and commented. I'll take your word that she simply quit.

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She can't be possibly be having mental health issues since I (who don't know her at all) have never known her to have mental health issues.

That's an odd hill to die on.

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She can't be possibly be having mental health issues since I (who don't know her at all) have never known her to have mental health issues.

That's an odd hill to die on.

Im pretty sure that during her life in the spotlight that if she's so mentally fragile she has to quit after one subpar performance it probably woudve been mentioned at some point but sure point taken, observation withdrawn

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I wonder what type of person wouldn't find "inspiration" from this particular story?

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In a 2016 interview, Simone's biological mother, Shanon Biles, admitted that she had given her up, along with her three siblings, for adoption in 2000, when Simone was two years old, after struggling to put a lid on her drug and alcohol addiction. In fact, Simone's biological father, Kelvin Clemons, was never a part of the world champion's life.

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I’m sure you are very inspired. She owes a debt to the people who came before her. Fans who have rewarded her and enriched her. The Olympics are also a form of service.


And let the record show that I'm just asking a question

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Everyone has played on teams. The Olympics isn’t comparable to playing sports in school. She’s 24, and has been a richly rewarded public figure for a long time. Feeling pressure, which is what she said isn’t a mental health issue.

Pressure can very easily become a mental health issue. And money doesn't enter into this equation.

And I am still convinced that you never played above jv high school, if even that high. You don't seem to understand anything about playing sports.


Nope. Royse White was a lottery pock that never played a second in the NBA because he had panic attacks when it came to flying.

I guess he should have got over it as a 22 or 23 year old millionaire.


We saw Rose struggle getting over the mental hurdle with his surgically repaired knee. We saw Burton lose it before a playoff game AFTER he had already won a Super Bowl. I and MANY others mocked both for selfish reasons.

Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime. If the greatest of all time can lose the edge so can anyone else.

Absolutely wild this is going double digit pages. :lol:


His father had also just been brutally murdered only a few months prior, amazing how people seem to forget than when discussing him "quitting".


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My great-great grandfather was murdered on the rooftop of Madison Square Garden by a drug addled millionaire. His son (my great-grandad) didn't get the day off work the following day.

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I get quitting because the pressure and stage cause you to get too anxious to compete.

But it's tough to completely dismiss that some of that pressure was self-caused. Never understood why she put a GOAT thing all over her stuff. That's just asking for trouble.

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Everyone has played on teams. The Olympics isn’t comparable to playing sports in school. She’s 24, and has been a richly rewarded public figure for a long time. Feeling pressure, which is what she said isn’t a mental health issue.

Pressure can very easily become a mental health issue. And money doesn't enter into this equation.

And I am still convinced that you never played above jv high school, if even that high. You don't seem to understand anything about playing sports.


Nope. Royse White was a lottery pock that never played a second in the NBA because he had panic attacks when it came to flying.

I guess he should have got over it as a 22 or 23 year old millionaire.


We saw Rose struggle getting over the mental hurdle with his surgically repaired knee. We saw Burton lose it before a playoff game AFTER he had already won a Super Bowl. I and MANY others mocked both for selfish reasons.

Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime. If the greatest of all time can lose the edge so can anyone else.

Absolutely wild this is going double digit pages. :lol:


His father had also just been brutally murdered only a few months prior, amazing how people seem to forget than when discussing him "quitting".

But he told close friends that he was gonna hang them up in 93 before the prior year's Olympic games

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Dominique Dawes and Moceanu came out today and talked about the pressure on them from the Karolyis and USA gymnastics despite the semi breakdown and broken leg they had respectively. And that those bastards pressured Strug to go out despite her injury and desire to pass.

If you didn't despise the amateur federations, you really ought to rethink it.

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