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I stopped watching the NBA but weren't both these dudes on the Lakers?

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So much for the new GM being wise

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What does this say about Lonzo?

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As New Orleans shifted more to allowing Zion Williamson to run point in the offense, Ball's role for the Pelicans became that of an off-ball wing who could control the offense in the open court and cede duties to Williamson in the half court. He'll have the opportunity to get back to controlling things more with Chicago.

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That's not bad, I've seen worse players get more.'




:lol: :lol:

Wow
Good for him I guess


No way he got that much money. That’s agent spin.

He’d be 40 years old.

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That's not bad, I've seen worse players get more.'




:lol: :lol:

Wow
Good for him I guess


No way he got that much money. That’s agent spin.

He’d be 40 years old.


Fewer per year average for more years on his deal. I doubt If he will be worth much the last couple of years on that deal though.

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So much for the new GM being wise

You’ll see. And Vuc will be appreciated this season.

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So much for the new GM being wise

You’ll see. And Vuc will be appreciated this season.

If they suck again this year I trust you’ll change your mind?

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So much for the new GM being wise

You’ll see. And Vuc will be appreciated this season.

If they suck again this year I trust you’ll change your mind?

Of course. Have you changed your mind on LaMelo Ball?

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Bulls were horrendous on defense last year and this can only help.
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So much for the new GM being wise

You’ll see. And Vuc will be appreciated this season.

If they suck again this year I trust you’ll change your mind?

Of course. Have you changed your mind on LaMelo Ball?

Only slightly. Definitely wouldn’t call his rookie year one to victory lap over.

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:lol:


Bulls were horrendous on defense last year and this can only help.

It won’t move the needle. It helps to add good defenders like him and Lonzo but pretending Caruso is one of the best defenders in the league is just silly.

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So much for the new GM being wise

You’ll see. And Vuc will be appreciated this season.

If they suck again this year I trust you’ll change your mind?

Of course. Have you changed your mind on LaMelo Ball?

Only slightly. Definitely wouldn’t call his rookie year one to victory lap over.

You had him as a complete bust. He wins rookie of the year and you don’t concede a victory lap? Tough crowd.

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It was a Brogdon, MCW type of Roy race, was it not?

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To put it another way Zippy, one year of terrible results hasn’t shaken your confidence in AK. So surely you can see why winning an extremely weak ROY race hasn’t convinced me LaMelo is great yet

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That is alot of money for a try hard white guy.

I want to be patient with AK, but I am trending in the direction of FF.

I guess time will tell

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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So much for the new GM being wise

You’ll see. And Vuc will be appreciated this season.


They will be better no doubt. But he has to move Markannen and Coby White too.

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To put it another way Zippy, one year of terrible results hasn’t shaken your confidence in AK. So surely you can see why winning an extremely weak ROY race hasn’t convinced me LaMelo is great yet

I think that expecting an immediate turnaround by a very bad team is unrealistic. I thought they would be better and I was encouraged by the Vuc pickup but the flaws were evident and too much to overcome. If they don’t look a lot better this season then I will be more concerned but I’ll let last season go without judging the philosophy.

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To put it another way Zippy, one year of terrible results hasn’t shaken your confidence in AK. So surely you can see why winning an extremely weak ROY race hasn’t convinced me LaMelo is great yet

I think that expecting an immediate turnaround by a very bad team is unrealistic. I thought they would be better and I was encouraged by the Vuc pickup but the flaws were evident and too much to overcome. If they don’t look a lot better this season then I will be more concerned but I’ll let last season go without judging the philosophy.

I wasn’t expecting an immediate turnaround. But this season was just as bad as the past few except the only difference is we managed to lose two future 1sts for the same bad record. It wasn’t a turnaround at all. It was more of the same sloppy bullshit.

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To put it another way Zippy, one year of terrible results hasn’t shaken your confidence in AK. So surely you can see why winning an extremely weak ROY race hasn’t convinced me LaMelo is great yet

I think that expecting an immediate turnaround by a very bad team is unrealistic. I thought they would be better and I was encouraged by the Vuc pickup but the flaws were evident and too much to overcome. If they don’t look a lot better this season then I will be more concerned but I’ll let last season go without judging the philosophy.

I wasn’t expecting an immediate turnaround. But this season was just as bad as the past few except the only difference is we managed to lose two future 1sts for the same bad record. It wasn’t a turnaround at all. It was more of the same sloppy bullshit.

You were similarly down on the White Sox. Hopefully this will follow the same path.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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To put it another way Zippy, one year of terrible results hasn’t shaken your confidence in AK. So surely you can see why winning an extremely weak ROY race hasn’t convinced me LaMelo is great yet

I think that expecting an immediate turnaround by a very bad team is unrealistic. I thought they would be better and I was encouraged by the Vuc pickup but the flaws were evident and too much to overcome. If they don’t look a lot better this season then I will be more concerned but I’ll let last season go without judging the philosophy.

I wasn’t expecting an immediate turnaround. But this season was just as bad as the past few except the only difference is we managed to lose two future 1sts for the same bad record. It wasn’t a turnaround at all. It was more of the same sloppy bullshit.

You were similarly down on the White Sox. Hopefully this will follow the same path.

The Sox went 12 years between playoff appearances. Guess I’ll look forward to 8 years from now when the rebuild is complete :lol:

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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To put it another way Zippy, one year of terrible results hasn’t shaken your confidence in AK. So surely you can see why winning an extremely weak ROY race hasn’t convinced me LaMelo is great yet

I think that expecting an immediate turnaround by a very bad team is unrealistic. I thought they would be better and I was encouraged by the Vuc pickup but the flaws were evident and too much to overcome. If they don’t look a lot better this season then I will be more concerned but I’ll let last season go without judging the philosophy.

I wasn’t expecting an immediate turnaround. But this season was just as bad as the past few except the only difference is we managed to lose two future 1sts for the same bad record. It wasn’t a turnaround at all. It was more of the same sloppy bullshit.

You were similarly down on the White Sox. Hopefully this will follow the same path.

The Sox went 12 years between playoff appearances. Guess I’ll look forward to 8 years from now when the rebuild is complete :lol:

We'll save you a seat on the bandwagon.

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So much for the new GM being wise

https://www.aol.com/nba-world-reacts-alex-caruso-004118644.html

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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To put it another way Zippy, one year of terrible results hasn’t shaken your confidence in AK. So surely you can see why winning an extremely weak ROY race hasn’t convinced me LaMelo is great yet

I think that expecting an immediate turnaround by a very bad team is unrealistic. I thought they would be better and I was encouraged by the Vuc pickup but the flaws were evident and too much to overcome. If they don’t look a lot better this season then I will be more concerned but I’ll let last season go without judging the philosophy.

I wasn’t expecting an immediate turnaround. But this season was just as bad as the past few except the only difference is we managed to lose two future 1sts for the same bad record. It wasn’t a turnaround at all. It was more of the same sloppy bullshit.

You were similarly down on the White Sox. Hopefully this will follow the same path.

The Sox went 12 years between playoff appearances. Guess I’ll look forward to 8 years from now when the rebuild is complete :lol:

We'll save you a seat on the bandwagon.

Never pegged you for a love it or leave it guy.

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You were similarly down on the White Sox. Hopefully this will follow the same path.

The Sox went 12 years between playoff appearances. Guess I’ll look forward to 8 years from now when the rebuild is complete :lol:

We'll save you a seat on the bandwagon.

Never pegged you for a love it or leave it guy.
I'm not sure we're on the same page here. I'm not asking you to love it but you seem to have written them off.

On the plus side, Caruso is a weed guy...so there's that. :drunken:

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
You were similarly down on the White Sox. Hopefully this will follow the same path.

The Sox went 12 years between playoff appearances. Guess I’ll look forward to 8 years from now when the rebuild is complete :lol:

We'll save you a seat on the bandwagon.

Never pegged you for a love it or leave it guy.
I'm not sure we're on the same page here. I'm not asking you to love it but you seem to have written them off.

On the plus side, Caruso is a weed guy...so there's that. :drunken:

I think it’s fair to write them off, to a certain degree. I guess it’s possible they reach their potential next year and are good enough to a 7-8 seed and getting swept in the first round. But there’s no viable path to contention for this team in the next few years and all of their moves over the past 12 months has only solidified that fact. There’s no real reason for optimism - they haven’t operated any differently under new management as they did old management. They’re still overpaying role players and building around non-stars.

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It seems like the NBA is a never ending cycle of bad contracts that everyone knows will be bad from the moment they are signed

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