Dude...your logic is just...odd.

I had the misfortune of listening to Rosenbloom Saturday. His take:

Players won't listen to LaRussa. "Why should I listen to you Skip, you have no discipline. You can't even stay sober"

If LaRussa was a loyal friend to Jerry, he would resign immediately.

hmm, drunk driving in rural areas is ok? i guess if you designate drunk driving routes maybe normal drivers can stay off those roads at night. can put up signs, make the roads wider, add in rumble strips.

There are options other than going to a bar that is 10+ miles away, getting tanked and driving.

Cut loose at home. Find a bar closer. Have one of the group be the designated driver.

How so? Americans like to drink. We tried Prohibition once. How did that work out? Not everyone makes 100 grand a year and lives in a place where it's easy to get an Uber or Lyft. Beyond that, every morning when I'm riding my bike I pass people blazing up in their cars on their way to wherever they're going. At 8 in the morning. Every fucking day. That's not an exaggeration.

I have a lot more sympathy for a poor guy who is at .10 just trying to get himself home than I do for the sober jagoff that's a foot from my rear end at 80 mph on his way to work in the morning.

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I think you'd find that if you lived in a rural area, your values may not prevail. Do you think bars shouldn't exist in rural areas? How are people supposed to get to them? The designated driver thing is great in theory. It doesn't really play very well in real life.

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Prohibition has nothing to do with drunk driving.

I understand why people that have been drinking and feel impaired still drive. Because I’ve done it 100 times to varying degrees, and once I got a DUI.

I don’t drink anymore but it’s not the DUI that deterred me.

With all that said, I still believe DUIs are serious and should carry consequences.

That’s really all I have to say

You see FavreFan every morning?

Because I have three rings, I've won 2200 more games than A.J. Hinch, and your UZR runs above average is -22.5.

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Of course it does. Our society values drinking. Our society values personal transportation. Bars and restaurants are where those values meet.

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It plays fine if not driving drunk is important enough to you.

There are lots of things I'd prefer to do but they are illegal or endanger lives so I dont. Some of these things are annoying. Rural people dont get to ignore laws. There are lots of advantages and good things about rural communities, gotta take that lack of Uber with them and adjust accordingly.

Uber/Taxi
Designated Driver
Drink at home
Drink in walking/biking distance
Drink in moderation


There are several options

Sure. But you can have a zero tolerance view of drunk driving and still be against prohibition.

Arguing that DUI laws should be enforced and taken seriously is not an argument for prohibition

No, but as I pointed out, it's an elitist position. It's like the working class guy getting his 3.2 beer cut off in the seventh while the CEO drinks Glenlivet in the skybox as we head to extra innings. It's really easy for people making the laws who have chauffeurs to make rules that don't affect them. Even then, they often get caught driving drunk.

I would suggest that we punish dangerous driving regardless of the circumstances that is causing it. Because I guarantee that there are 80 years olds out there driving sober that I'm more concerned about crashing into me than I am with RPB guzzling a few beers and hitting the road at .09.

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Ok....but being 80 doesn’t automatically make you a bad driver. Being at .09 is an impairment.

Again, I’m not even interested in all this.

I was for the TLR hire, and still think he should keep his job if his employer is ok with it.

My point is the Sox (jerry) could have handled it better. But whatever

I see what Jorr is saying to a degree. No one is for dunk driving but it is pretty unfair in some aspects. MADD has done a very good job pushing the idea to not drive drunk. The victory they won with the reduction from .10 to .08 was unnecessary I feel. I believe most DUI driver that kill people are way past that.

It is easy to get to .08 and it might as well as be prohibition to people going out as they might as well not drink at all.

No one will give sympathy to Tony LaRussa or anyone else nor should they. Don't drive drunk and you will not be in legal trouble. If goverments and others were really serious they would just put the interlocks in every vehicle.

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I think being 80 is an impairment. I absolutely know I'm not as capable a driver as I was twenty years ago. Does the fact that I'm still operating vehicles in less than my optimum state make me a criminal?

Look, I'm not advocating going out and getting shitfaced drunk and jumping behind the wheel. I'm saying that, like most things, it's a little more complex, than just this guy is bad for doing this thing.

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5 beers in 2 hours for a 200lb male is very near .08.

I agree .08 isn’t necessarily more impaired than an 80 year old.

But the larger issue is the line has to be drawn somewhere and the goal is to err on the side of caution. If a 200lb male is drinking at a pace of 3 beers per hour, he’s looking to get drunk. Which is fine. But don’t do it, then drive. That’s it!!

Easy solution! But maybe the laws don't really reflect people's values.

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Similarly, they could fairly easily limit speeds to 75 mph, and acceleration to 0-60 in 6 seconds by means of computer setting in the car, but they seem to have no interest in doing so, despite the fact it would save lives.

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It really is as simple as that

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Is it possible that most Americans actually value freedom and autonomy more than they value safety?

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I don't know how the DUI laws can be seen as anything other than a money-making racket. I mean setting up check-points, lowering it to .08, and the ticky-tack ways you can be pinged. I knew a guy who was arrested for going into his car to look for something while drunk. It was cold outside show he turned his car on, but he wasn't even sitting at the wheel.

If someone is clearly violating traffic laws then I get it arrest them. But pinging people for .08 because they "looked suspicious" is basically extortion. This is not about safety either. It's some strange morality ploy. People drive all the time impaired by prescription drugs, anti-depressants or simply misusing over the counter medicines. And if this were truly about safety we would look into regulation of semi-trucks with safety rather than profit in mind.

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Bingo

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Of course we do. And I am being a smart ass now... except when mothers team up against drunk driving.

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Obviously no. Helicopter parents aren't the exception, they're the rule. Being over zealous with safety consciousness stunts creativity and happiness. Rules add up. And keep adding up.

We are clearly seeing that it's selective and highly influenced by the media and our government.

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