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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:03 am 
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Is there room on the Soldier Field property to build a nice domed baseball stadium? Build parking decks? Build a restaurant, bar, hotel, entertainment complex? Similar to what Rosemont did.

A team would then have to share revenue in all of it...just to keep them interested.


No new construction would be allowed on the lakefront. The master plan has been for 100+ years for the lakefront to be open to the people and uncluttered by development.

This actually creates a massive opportunity for re creation of public space. Time to take down Soldier Field and its acres of asphalt parking. Maybe keep the columns and incorporate them into something. Think big with this.


Soldier field isn't on the lakefront


don't condescend to me, you halfwit.

It's in the lakefront protection district within the area scheduled as open space by Burnham

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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Good Dolphin on the ropes.

When his Chicago loyalty wanes it will be over for the city.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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"The Friends Of The Lake" or whoever shot down the Lucas museum should be celebrating an increase in lakefront parking lots!

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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The team's value is going to skyrocket up multiple $billions. They're ditching SF. Zero doubt.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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The Bears are more likely to fuck this up than be playing in a state of the art facility in 5 years.

This is ultimately a business move and business moves are the only thing the Bears don't fuck up.

The McCaskeys know how to operate a business, they don't know how to operate a football team. This will be their one moment to shine.

They fucked up the last stadium deal(the upgrade of Soldier Field). They are easily the worst revenue generator in the NFL relative to their market.


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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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The truth is, this makes going to games easier for me. I can walk (it's a bit long but I could do it in theory) to jefferson park, hop on the train and be at the front door. Ticket prices will undoubtedly increase but the actual cost of the day to me might go down. Even though it increases my convenience, I still don't like it happening.

why would the prices go up on tickets, other than normal increases?

I'd go to my first Bears game if they move to AH.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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The truth is, this makes going to games easier for me. I can walk (it's a bit long but I could do it in theory) to jefferson park, hop on the train and be at the front door. Ticket prices will undoubtedly increase but the actual cost of the day to me might go down. Even though it increases my convenience, I still don't like it happening.

why would the prices go up on tickets, other than normal increases?

I'd go to my first Bears game if they move to AH.


Didn't you just answer your own question?

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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Hard to believe the McKaskey family will be able to pull this off, is an ownership change coming? This move takes that franchise from a maw and paw small business to an actual legit NFL franchise, a team owned multiuse stadium opens up all kinds of potential revenue streams.


I thought the speculation was that they were going to sell a portion of the team to some other entities which would then partner with them and help them develop and run the Arlington Heights property. For instance, someone in the casino industry or entertainment industry.


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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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Hard to believe the McKaskey family will be able to pull this off, is an ownership change coming? This move takes that franchise from a maw and paw small business to an actual legit NFL franchise, a team owned multiuse stadium opens up all kinds of potential revenue streams.


I thought the speculation was that they were going to sell a portion of the team to some other entities which would then partner with them and help them develop and run the Arlington Heights property. For instance, someone in the casino industry or entertainment industry.


My understanding is their current partners have right of first refusal.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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Yay owners.


It would be a major WIN/WIN.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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Meh. Their investment is minimal. Their facilities are in a decent corporate park, just off 294. They could easily convert to a corporate HQ and lease or sell to someone else.

The opportunity at Arlington is sky high. I don't see how anything else could compete.

I work down the street from the Halas Hall entrance. You are correct that it's a decent corporate park, but only one problem right now.....commercial real estate is completely fucked. But....even if they ate the money dumped into Halas Hall....the AH Stadium would easily make up for it and then some.

Nas....I feel for you, but you're gonna have to build a bridge and get over this one. It happens.

oh yeah....suburbs win again.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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oh yeah....suburbs win again.

seems like a running theme these past few years

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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I too will walk away rather than see the Bears leave the city of my birth. I have nothing in common with Arlington Heights, the Bears might as well play on the moon at that point.

I'll never live in Chicago again but it doesn't matter. I wont stomach it. Its an act of betrayal second to none in my book.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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I too will walk away rather than see the Bears leave the city of my birth. I have nothing in common with Arlington Heights, the Bears might as well play on the moon at that point.

I'll never live in Chicago again but it doesn't matter. I wont stomach it. Its an act of betrayal second to none in my book.

"HOW COULD SOMEONE LEAVE CHICAGO!" said A Guy Who Left Chicago.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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I too will walk away rather than see the Bears leave the city of my birth. I have nothing in common with Arlington Heights, the Bears might as well play on the moon at that point.

I'll never live in Chicago again but it doesn't matter. I wont stomach it. Its an act of betrayal second to none in my book.

"HOW COULD SOMEONE LEAVE CHICAGO!" said A Guy Who Left Chicago.

Leaving the city might be the best decision America ever made.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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Nas, what size Aaron Rodgers or Jordan Love jersey should I send?

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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They couldn't have done a better job of changing the subject away from Nagy sucking ass.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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Brick wrote:
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I too will walk away rather than see the Bears leave the city of my birth. I have nothing in common with Arlington Heights, the Bears might as well play on the moon at that point.

I'll never live in Chicago again but it doesn't matter. I wont stomach it. Its an act of betrayal second to none in my book.

"HOW COULD SOMEONE LEAVE CHICAGO!" said A Guy Who Left Chicago.

A month away and BRick comes back kicking ass and taking names.
Nice...BRick! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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Brick wrote:
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I too will walk away rather than see the Bears leave the city of my birth. I have nothing in common with Arlington Heights, the Bears might as well play on the moon at that point.

I'll never live in Chicago again but it doesn't matter. I wont stomach it. Its an act of betrayal second to none in my book.

"HOW COULD SOMEONE LEAVE CHICAGO!" said A Guy Who Left Chicago.

Its one thing to leave for greener pastures, its whole other to leave for Arlington mfín Heights.

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 Post subject: Re: My Bears Fandom
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Nas, what size Aaron Rodgers or Jordan Love jersey should I send?


I'm not a fan of green football jerseys. I could never be a fan of the Packers. I would have to seriously consider disowning my kids if they ever became Packers or Cardinals fans. That would really test the whole unconditional love thing.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas, what size Aaron Rodgers or Jordan Love jersey should I send?


I'm not a fan of green football jerseys. I could never be a fan of the Packers. I would have to seriously consider disowning my kids if they ever became Packers or Cardinals fans. That would really test the whole unconditional love thing.

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Brick wrote:
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I too will walk away rather than see the Bears leave the city of my birth. I have nothing in common with Arlington Heights, the Bears might as well play on the moon at that point.

I'll never live in Chicago again but it doesn't matter. I wont stomach it. Its an act of betrayal second to none in my book.

"HOW COULD SOMEONE LEAVE CHICAGO!" said A Guy Who Left Chicago.

:lol:

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The question becomes who to root for instead? Colts? Broncos?

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The question becomes who to root for instead? Colts? Broncos?

The Rams. Stafford is gonna win like 5 Super Bowls there from what I hear. Get on board now.

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a team owned multiuse stadium opens up all kinds of potential revenue streams.

Think of all the jobs it will create that no one will deign to take.

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The question becomes who to root for instead? Colts? Broncos?

The Rams. Stafford is gonna win like 5 Super Bowls there from what I hear. Get on board now.

Nah can't be a fan of a team that is either coastal or relocated like they did.

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