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He also made a big throw on that last 3rd and 5 to get us that much closer to the victory formation.

Speaking of, dumbass lions offsides penalty on the punt. THERE IS YOUR DAGGER - WAYNE LARRIVEE

so.lets all just pray for montgomery and go from there

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Fields blowing this game.




The defense has let the Lions go up and down the field today too tho


Sounded that way on radio. But in a boom or bust manner.

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Once again, a "good day" for a Bears QB is...just North of 200 yards, no TDs and a pick. Against a tomato can.


There's a few guys who analyze Fields fairly, but there's a lot of media people and fans who are so blinded by the hype. BTW his QB rating was 82.7


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Once again, a "good day" for a Bears QB is...just North of 200 yards, no TDs and a pick. Against a tomato can.

All things considered he showed progress. Thats my bar for a good day. Was it better than last week? Is he uninjured? If so, good day.

I know, and I agree. It's just...can we as fans ever just get an unquestionably good performance that isn't in need of qualifiers and context?




It is frustrating.. but I think it’s coming. They have to run this style of offense tho to help Fields get there. You can see it in some of these throws tho, that’s talent and skill that can’t be taught and he’s got it.


He still reads slowly sometimes and holds on to the ball too long. He still throws high here and there.. but over time that stuff will work itself out if they run a straight up offense.

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 Post subject: Re: Lions @ Bears
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Ok, so the Bears are good enough to beat bad teams and bad enough to lose to the good ones. That hasn’t changed yet.


Fields bounced back big this game and showed he wasn’t ruined by last weeks debacle. He’s still holding the ball way too long and throwing high tho. That will work itself out as he gains experience.


The play calling was good today, no sideways Nagy bullshit -every play for the most part moved forward from the snap. They need to keep that up or this team is toast.


Defense barley held on today and let the Lions stay in the game longer than they should have been allowed to. Still, they bent but didn’t break, so there’s that.

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This game is proof the Bears offense needs to ditch the RPO stuff outside of a few gimmick plays.. asking this line to hold blocks long enough for the QB to decide whether to keep it or not, asking them to block for a running play or a pass play after the snap is just too much for this team. Just stick with what we saw today. Straight forward football.

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Today showed that if you give fields time he's got a nice deep ball and he can probably chuck it all over the yard pretty well if, say, you were able to put him in mahones' shoes playing that chiefs offense. Not saying he's mahomesque or anything, but i reckon if you moved him.around the pocket and gave him the line + weapons + plays the chiefs run he could end up doing pretty darn good there.

Maybe Nagy and Co are trying to save some of the movement stuff for the gauntlet theyre about to run in thd upcoming schedule? I'm fully expecting OB and Hamp to get on Nagy + Co for not rolling him out or trying to.get him loose out of the pocket for natural/spontaneous RPOs where you can play IRL like you did with Vick in mid-00s madden.

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This game is proof the Bears offense needs to ditch the RPO stuff outside of a few gimmick plays.. asking this line to hold blocks long enough for the QB to decide whether to keep it or not, asking them to block for a running play or a pass play after the snap is just too much for this team. Just stick with what we saw today. Straight forward football.


All we heard last week is "ya gotta roll Fields out of the pocket" LOL


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Nice to see a Bears QB put deep throws on the money.

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This game is proof the Bears offense needs to ditch the RPO stuff outside of a few gimmick plays.. asking this line to hold blocks long enough for the QB to decide whether to keep it or not, asking them to block for a running play or a pass play after the snap is just too much for this team. Just stick with what we saw today. Straight forward football.


All we heard last week is "ya gotta roll Fields out of the pocket" LOL





Not from me. Although, it’s not a terrible idea.



You can read my posts from the last couple years about Nagys offense -all his plays move sideways, not forward (I’m simplifying this as I’ve gone into way more detail in the past)

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 Post subject: Re: Lions @ Bears
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Defense barley held on today and let the Lions stay in the game longer than they should have been allowed to. Still, they bent but didn’t break, so there’s that.

In fairness to the defense the lions did this during the first two weeks of the season; they get down big to SF and Arizona in quarters 1-3 then they get going in garbage time and get back to within 1-2 scores and then lose.. same thing they did today. Last week they needed a ravens last second FG from ~60\+ yards to win, so at least they were nice enough to show up and help us get fields to wash thd taste of browns beatdown out of his mouth + ass + etc

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Nice to see a Bears QB put deep throws on the money.

Been a while.




Grossman is actually the last one I can remember that could throw a decent deep ball. Cutler had the arm, but not the touch

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Campbell’s decision to go for it on 4th and 1, and then the play call, and then the execution, were quintessential Lions.

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Defense barley held on today and let the Lions stay in the game longer than they should have been allowed to. Still, they bent but didn’t break, so there’s that.

In fairness to the defense the lions did this during the first two weeks of the season; they get down big to SF and Arizona in quarters 1-3 then they get going in garbage time and get back to within 1-2 scores and then lose.. same thing they did today. Last week they needed a ravens last second FG from ~60\+ yards to win, so at least they were nice enough to show up and help us get fields to wash thd taste of browns beatdown out of his mouth + ass + etc





The Lions moved the ball from the start of the game today tho, they just made some mistakes early along with the defense making plays here and there

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You can read my posts from the last couple years about Nagys offense -all his plays move sideways, not forward (I’m simplifying this as I’ve gone into way more detail in the past)

Its probably because he thinks he can outscheme his opposing coaches and draw up clever "safe" plays that even.a shit QB can throw a few yards then spring his receivers for ~5-15/+ yard games. IIRC the big 63 yarder to mooney wasnt 40+ in the air, he got it and broke a tackle or two / got a block or two.and the big play ensued.

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Nice to see a Bears QB put deep throws on the money.

Been a while.




Grossman is actually the last one I can remember that could throw a decent deep ball. Cutler had the arm, but not the touch


Grossman could but not like this.

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I think the Lions have found themselves a worse head coach than the current Bears head coach. How can the Lions not go for 1 field goal the entire game... from the 1st qtr. on they did not go for a field goal on 4th down which is suspicious that either there is an injury to the kicker or the coach is worse than Nagy in play calling.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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Nice to see a Bears QB put deep throws on the money.

Been a while.




Grossman is actually the last one I can remember that could throw a decent deep ball. Cutler had the arm, but not the touch


Grossman could but not like this.




I’d agree with this. Just pointing out that Grossman did throw a good deep ball.

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Once again, a "good day" for a Bears QB is...just North of 200 yards, no TDs and a pick. Against a tomato can.

All things considered he showed progress. Thats my bar for a good day. Was it better than last week? Is he uninjured? If so, good day.

I know, and I agree. It's just...can we as fans ever just get an unquestionably good performance that isn't in need of qualifiers and context?




It is frustrating.. but I think it’s coming. They have to run this style of offense tho to help Fields get there. You can see it in some of these throws tho, that’s talent and skill that can’t be taught and he’s got it.


He still reads slowly sometimes and holds on to the ball too long. He still throws high here and there.. but over time that stuff will work itself out if they run a straight up offense.


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I think the Lions have found themselves a worse head coach than the current Bears head coach. How can the Lions not go for 1 field goal the entire game... from the 1st qtr. on they did not go for a field goal on 4th down which is suspicious that either there is an injury to the kicker or the coach is worse than Nagy in play calling.

Don't forget Lions Legend Marty Morninwheg who elected to defer the OT kickoff to the bears because he prioritized having the wind going your way more than anything else.... in the old/traditional "whoever scores first wins" OT setup.

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Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had a higher rating than Fields today (ok, he was 1/1 for 8 yards...)

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Fields deep ball touch is really impressive.

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Fields deep ball touch is really impressive.
Yes. There are definitely things he needs to improve on and he is very young, but he had a couple of, "WOW" type throws today

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Fields deep ball touch is really impressive.
Yes. There are definitely things he needs to improve on and he is very young, but he had a couple of, "WOW" type throws today


Agreed. I'm okay with that.

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Fields can throw a very nice ball when there is no pressure and he has all day to make his reads. He did this at OSU but the only difference was you couldnt tell how good his ball was as the wr's had about a 10 yd adjustment window because no one could cover them. Those were awesome throws today and he put them right on the dot but as I said he was just standing there. When he had pressure he melted. Campbell is an idiot for not bringing constant heat but campbell being an idiot is another discussion. Good day but a long way to go.

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It’s still a good place to start.

If his main issue is that he needs time, that can be bought.

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