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So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

I blame the ghost of Hugo Chavez.

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So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

If there's one thing I've learned throughout all of this, it's that precisely how private communications come to public light—and whether they are authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt—only matters based on who is being damaged by the communications. For some reason, Gruden is a very unlikeable guy (even before he was outed as a racist homophobe), so he doesn't get to benefit from handwringing over "hacked materials" and "authentication", regardless of the actual content of the emails themselves.


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veganfan21 wrote:
So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

If there's one thing I've learned throughout all of this, it's that precisely how private communications come to public light—and whether they are authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt—only matters based on who is being damaged by the communications. For some reason, Gruden is a very unlikeable guy (even before he was outed as a racist homophobe), so he doesn't get to benefit from handwringing over "hacked materials" and "authentication", regardless of the actual content of the emails themselves.


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Well, it is pretty clear his stuff got up in the Redskins scandal. Now the conspiracy part is why his stuff has come out while other embarrassing stuff has not.

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Well, it is pretty clear his stuff got up in the Redskins scandal. Now the conspiracy part is why his stuff has come out while other embarrassing stuff has not.


They'll bring out the emails from D Smith calling Gruden a racial slur during the next CBA negotiations.

If the NFL can piss off the feds... the internal NFL emails from Goodell and his henchmen would be a treasure trove... once they filter out the 24,000 emails discussing goodell's basement chair


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Apart from this Fed WFT investigation you have to remember NFL Security is a serious mf’n investigation setup. For Vegas purposes players and refs and that stuff need to be watched.

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denisdman wrote:
Well, it is pretty clear his stuff got up in the Redskins scandal. Now the conspiracy part is why his stuff has come out while other embarrassing stuff has not.


They'll bring out the emails from D Smith calling Gruden a racial slur during the next CBA negotiations.

If the NFL can piss off the feds NFL emails from Goodell and his henchmen would be a treasure trove... once they filter out the 24,000 emails discussing goodell's basement chair

I’m sure there are zero private emails that Smith has sent describing Goodell and other people in less than flattering terms.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Gruden Cancelled
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badrogue17 wrote:
billypootons wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Well, it is pretty clear his stuff got up in the Redskins scandal. Now the conspiracy part is why his stuff has come out while other embarrassing stuff has not.


They'll bring out the emails from D Smith calling Gruden a racial slur during the next CBA negotiations.

If the NFL can piss off the feds NFL emails from Goodell and his henchmen would be a treasure trove... once they filter out the 24,000 emails discussing goodell's basement chair

I’m sure there are zero private emails that Smith has sent describing Goodell and other people in less than flattering terms.


Keeping the guy who runs the NFLPA in power is in the best interest of the NFL. He is bad at his job. They wouldn't release those emails if they had them.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Gruden Cancelled
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So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

Yeah. Just like the Bears "won" the game on Sunday. No one really believes that the Bears "won". If the Bears really "won" why did they have to do this to Gruden?

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veganfan21 wrote:
So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

If there's one thing I've learned throughout all of this, it's that precisely how private communications come to public light—and whether they are authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt—only matters based on who is being damaged by the communications. For some reason, Gruden is a very unlikeable guy (even before he was outed as a racist homophobe), so he doesn't get to benefit from handwringing over "hacked materials" and "authentication", regardless of the actual content of the emails themselves.

Gruden admitted that they were real. :lol:

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veganfan21 wrote:
So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

Yeah. Just like the Bears "won" the game on Sunday. No one really believes that the Bears "won". If the Bears really "won" why did they have to do this to Gruden?


What?

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Gruden Cancelled
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Brick wrote:
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So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

Yeah. Just like the Bears "won" the game on Sunday. No one really believes that the Bears "won". If the Bears really "won" why did they have to do this to Gruden?


What?
The media is the only reason the Bears "won".

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Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

If there's one thing I've learned throughout all of this, it's that precisely how private communications come to public light—and whether they are authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt—only matters based on who is being damaged by the communications. For some reason, Gruden is a very unlikeable guy (even before he was outed as a racist homophobe), so he doesn't get to benefit from handwringing over "hacked materials" and "authentication", regardless of the actual content of the emails themselves.

Gruden admitted that they were real. :lol:

:lol:

Also, Gruden is pretty likable. Not sure where that angle is coming from. Sucks this happened to him, but he also brought a lot of it on himself with stupidity many here have already mentioned.

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Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

If there's one thing I've learned throughout all of this, it's that precisely how private communications come to public light—and whether they are authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt—only matters based on who is being damaged by the communications. For some reason, Gruden is a very unlikeable guy (even before he was outed as a racist homophobe), so he doesn't get to benefit from handwringing over "hacked materials" and "authentication", regardless of the actual content of the emails themselves.

Gruden admitted that they were real. :lol:

Every single one? Must've missed that.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

If there's one thing I've learned throughout all of this, it's that precisely how private communications come to public light—and whether they are authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt—only matters based on who is being damaged by the communications. For some reason, Gruden is a very unlikeable guy (even before he was outed as a racist homophobe), so he doesn't get to benefit from handwringing over "hacked materials" and "authentication", regardless of the actual content of the emails themselves.

Gruden admitted that they were real. :lol:

Every single one? Must've missed that.

Which one do you believe is not authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt?

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Itll be a better day when along with being forced into being vaxxed against covid, the only email accounts youre allowed to have are issued by the government and are to be reviewed on a monthly basis for content . Cant have people like Gruden be employable.

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Imagine being fired by this guy over perceived offensiveness:

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Itll be a better day when along with being forced into being vaxxed against covid, the only email accounts youre allowed to have are issued by the government and are to be reviewed on a monthly basis for content . Cant have people like Gruden be employable.


This is an extremely terrible take.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

If there's one thing I've learned throughout all of this, it's that precisely how private communications come to public light—and whether they are authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt—only matters based on who is being damaged by the communications. For some reason, Gruden is a very unlikeable guy (even before he was outed as a racist homophobe), so he doesn't get to benefit from handwringing over "hacked materials" and "authentication", regardless of the actual content of the emails themselves.

Gruden admitted that they were real. :lol:

Every single one? Must've missed that.

Which one do you believe is not authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt?

Going by the Hunter Biden Standard, none of them have been authenticated to sufficient degree.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
So it looks like the content of the emails is not the main story here, no? This appears to be someone manipulating the cancel climate to advance an agenda against Gruden.

If there's one thing I've learned throughout all of this, it's that precisely how private communications come to public light—and whether they are authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt—only matters based on who is being damaged by the communications. For some reason, Gruden is a very unlikeable guy (even before he was outed as a racist homophobe), so he doesn't get to benefit from handwringing over "hacked materials" and "authentication", regardless of the actual content of the emails themselves.

Gruden admitted that they were real. :lol:

Every single one? Must've missed that.

Which one do you believe is not authenticated beyond a shadow of a doubt?

Going by the Hunter Biden Standard, none of them have been authenticated to sufficient degree.

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The Jon Gruden thread has everything:

Randy Moss, vaccines, and Hunter Biden's laptop!

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Going by the Hunter Biden Standard, none of them have been authenticated to sufficient degree.

Gruden admitted they were real. :lol:

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What about Hillary's e-mails?

We can't have a double standard here if you're going to be digging up old stuff.


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Brick wrote:
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Going by the Hunter Biden Standard, none of them have been authenticated to sufficient degree.

Gruden admitted they were real. :lol:


:lol: But he hasn't individually verified every single one.

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What about Hillary's e-mails?

We can't have a double standard here if you're going to be digging up old stuff.

My takeaway is that there are people in the world who thought the Hilary stuff was a non-story but who also care deeply about 10yr old emails from the guy in the Hooters commercials.

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At this point Gruden, Moss, and the kid Moss beat up in high school need to learn a lesson via the Terms of Agreement training tool.

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