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A Tetanus shot "may" kill you and if you got jabbed with something in the yard while at work, you would likely be required to get one. But keep doing what you do.


It's good to get 1 of those every 10 years.
I dunno. It "may" kill you!

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how are we so easily breezing over the fact that these mandates are being put in place that is nobody elses fucking business? And, that the vaccination isnt 100% effective, you can get sick again and also pass it along to others? So, what the fuck is difference if they get vaccinated, wear a silly useless mask, get sick again or, not get vaccinated, wear a silly useless mask, and get sick again? Why arent you mad at the person that infected them? Does it matter to you if that person was vaccinated and infected someone else? Or are you just being mad and moving the Us vs Them narrative that we're slipping deeper and deeper into? Nobody cares if i get my flu shot or not.

I think normal people are not breezing over that fact. Covidians, yes. But normal people seem to get it.

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I don't use anything that isn't 100% effective. It's probably why I have 4 kids.

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it seems pretty simple to me - "this is available for you if you would like to take advantage of it."

End.

But, we can all see where its going to get full compliance - more mandates that put people in a position of whether or not they want to keep their job, or, if it never got that extreme, theyll push the mandates into other everyday life things that people will no longer be able to go without it, thus making basic living next to impossible.

This is the type of overreach that people legitimately get furious at and end up backed into a corner where regrettable actions are taken.

Sadly, you can count on it happening.

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I don't use anything that isn't 100% effective. It's probably why I have 4 kids.
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SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
how are we so easily breezing over the fact that these mandates are being put in place that is nobody elses fucking business? And, that the vaccination isnt 100% effective, you can get sick again and also pass it along to others? So, what the fuck is difference if they get vaccinated, wear a silly useless mask, get sick again or, not get vaccinated, wear a silly useless mask, and get sick again? Why arent you mad at the person that infected them? Does it matter to you if that person was vaccinated and infected someone else? Or are you just being mad and moving the Us vs Them narrative that we're slipping deeper and deeper into? Nobody cares if i get my flu shot or not.

The answers to your questions are widely available and have been for some time. However, given your tone I'm 100% positive you're unlikely to change your ill-informed stances. It's interesting you're accusing "you just being mad" given the rambling screed full of cursing :lol:

Nonethless, the thread is getting derailed. These drama queen troopers deserved to be mocked mercilessly. Good lord are they playing up the victim. Not even Kaepernick hammed it up this much.


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stats wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
how are we so easily breezing over the fact that these mandates are being put in place that is nobody elses fucking business? And, that the vaccination isnt 100% effective, you can get sick again and also pass it along to others? So, what the fuck is difference if they get vaccinated, wear a silly useless mask, get sick again or, not get vaccinated, wear a silly useless mask, and get sick again? Why arent you mad at the person that infected them? Does it matter to you if that person was vaccinated and infected someone else? Or are you just being mad and moving the Us vs Them narrative that we're slipping deeper and deeper into? Nobody cares if i get my flu shot or not.


The answers to your questions are widely available and have been for some time. However, given your tone I'm 100% positive you're unlikely to change your ill-informed stances. It's interesting you're accusing "you just being mad" given the rambling screed full of cursing :lol:


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vaccination isnt 100% effective

it's not

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You can



So what do you dispute?


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there is no You. its a ridiculous Group Think mentality pitting Us vs Them. And its certainly been a long, frustrating 19/20 months of back and forth nonsense, flip flopping mandates and outlooks for it all to boil down to people who think theyre enlightened telling every one else with pending questions and concerns to just "Relaaaaxxxx, bro. Just get the shots."

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stats wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
how are we so easily breezing over the fact that these mandates are being put in place that is nobody elses fucking business? And, that the vaccination isnt 100% effective, you can get sick again and also pass it along to others? So, what the fuck is difference if they get vaccinated, wear a silly useless mask, get sick again or, not get vaccinated, wear a silly useless mask, and get sick again? Why arent you mad at the person that infected them? Does it matter to you if that person was vaccinated and infected someone else? Or are you just being mad and moving the Us vs Them narrative that we're slipping deeper and deeper into? Nobody cares if i get my flu shot or not.


The answers to your questions are widely available and have been for some time. However, given your tone I'm 100% positive you're unlikely to change your ill-informed stances. It's interesting you're accusing "you just being mad" given the rambling screed full of cursing :lol:


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vaccination isnt 100% effective

it's not

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you can get sick again and also pass it along to others?

You can



So what do you dispute?




I dispute it being made mandatory.

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Caller Bob wrote:
stats wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
how are we so easily breezing over the fact that these mandates are being put in place that is nobody elses fucking business? And, that the vaccination isnt 100% effective, you can get sick again and also pass it along to others? So, what the fuck is difference if they get vaccinated, wear a silly useless mask, get sick again or, not get vaccinated, wear a silly useless mask, and get sick again? Why arent you mad at the person that infected them? Does it matter to you if that person was vaccinated and infected someone else? Or are you just being mad and moving the Us vs Them narrative that we're slipping deeper and deeper into? Nobody cares if i get my flu shot or not.


The answers to your questions are widely available and have been for some time. However, given your tone I'm 100% positive you're unlikely to change your ill-informed stances. It's interesting you're accusing "you just being mad" given the rambling screed full of cursing :lol:

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vaccination isnt 100% effective

it's not
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you can get sick again and also pass it along to others?

You can
So what do you dispute?

I did not dispute any of the poster's writings nor did I answer any of his questions. I simply advised him to seek resources more credible than a message board or a poster going by Caller Bob.

Though as I posted, I do not believe the poster wanted answers. Reads like the poster just needed to vent. Must be having a tough day.


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stats wrote:
nor did I answer any of his questions..


That seems to be a theme of yours. Good talk.


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what resources do i need to seek when im already fully aware the vaccine isnt 100% effective, I can still get sick, still get others sick, and masks are ineffective in stopping the spread vaccinated or not?

Should I watch the Fauci documentary on Hulu? Will that bring me to your enlightened level, Stats?

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SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
what resources do i need to seek when im already fully aware the vaccine isnt 100% effective, I can still get sick, still get others sick, and masks are ineffective in stopping the spread vaccinated or not?

Should I watch the Fauci documentary on Hulu? Will that bring me to your enlightened level, Stats?

I'm not "enlightened". I just read new information and place my trust in science over social media and charlatans.

• The FDA, CDC and clinical trials publicly stated vaccine effectiveness is not 100%.
• Vaccines have also shown to not have sustained effectiveness in preventing the spread of the Delta variant.
• However, the vaccines have shown to greatly reduce the severity of illness, rate of hospitalization, and probability of death.
• Currently there are studies underway to determine the time horizon of the protection from severe illness, hospitalization and death.
• Early indications are the effectiveness wanes and booster might be needed for at-risk individuals or individuals in high exposure industries.

Hope that helps.


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stats wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
what resources do i need to seek when im already fully aware the vaccine isnt 100% effective, I can still get sick, still get others sick, and masks are ineffective in stopping the spread vaccinated or not?

Should I watch the Fauci documentary on Hulu? Will that bring me to your enlightened level, Stats?

I'm not "enlightened". I just read new information and place my trust in science over social media and charlatans.

• The FDA, CDC and clinical trials publicly stated vaccine effectiveness is not 100%.
• Vaccines have also shown to not have sustained effectiveness in preventing the spread of the Delta variant.
• However, the vaccines have shown to greatly reduce the severity of illness, rate of hospitalization, and probability of death.
• Currently there are studies underway to determine the time horizon of the protection from severe illness, hospitalization and death.
• Early indications are the effectiveness wanes and booster might be needed for at-risk individuals or individuals in high exposure industries.

Hope that helps.


Sadly it won't. But the bitching from newly minted luddites who had to get vaccinated for school is ridiculous.

Just like with the idiot former Washington State coach.

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stats wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
what resources do i need to seek when im already fully aware the vaccine isnt 100% effective, I can still get sick, still get others sick, and masks are ineffective in stopping the spread vaccinated or not?

Should I watch the Fauci documentary on Hulu? Will that bring me to your enlightened level, Stats?

I'm not "enlightened". I just read new information and place my trust in science over social media and charlatans.

• The FDA, CDC and clinical trials publicly stated vaccine effectiveness is not 100%.
• Vaccines have also shown to not have sustained effectiveness in preventing the spread of the Delta variant.
• However, the vaccines have shown to greatly reduce the severity of illness, rate of hospitalization, and probability of death.
• Currently there are studies underway to determine the time horizon of the protection from severe illness, hospitalization and death.
• Early indications are the effectiveness wanes and booster might be needed for at-risk individuals or individuals in high exposure industries.

Hope that helps.


Aren’t the odds already very low that I’ll have a severe case of Covid,
not going up in the hospital and not end up dead without the vaccine ?

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Sir I have optically ascertained that the particular individual in question has verbally indicated that he will consciously refuse to tactically obtain the 5G Gay Autism vaccine. This appears to be indicating the causality of an involuntary termination of duty. The individual is expressing his intent to begin cybernetically posting to TikTok to complain that His Freedoms have been wrongfully seized by an unelected government. over

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stats wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
what resources do i need to seek when im already fully aware the vaccine isnt 100% effective, I can still get sick, still get others sick, and masks are ineffective in stopping the spread vaccinated or not?

Should I watch the Fauci documentary on Hulu? Will that bring me to your enlightened level, Stats?

I'm not "enlightened". I just read new information and place my trust in science over social media and charlatans.

• The FDA, CDC and clinical trials publicly stated vaccine effectiveness is not 100%.
• Vaccines have also shown to not have sustained effectiveness in preventing the spread of the Delta variant.
• However, the vaccines have shown to greatly reduce the severity of illness, rate of hospitalization, and probability of death.
• Currently there are studies underway to determine the time horizon of the protection from severe illness, hospitalization and death.
• Early indications are the effectiveness wanes and booster might be needed for at-risk individuals or individuals in high exposure industries.

Hope that helps.


Aren’t the odds already very low that I’ll have a severe case of Covid,
not going up in the hospital and not end up dead?

I don't know anything about you.

My interpretation is the vaccine provides a cheap (free) insurance. A population has a far lower opportunity to experience severe outbreaks of illness, hospitalization and/or death. From a health and financial standpoint the return on investment seems simple.

Prevention is far easier and less costly than treatment.


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stats wrote:
I don't know anything about you.

My interpretation is the vaccine provides a cheap (free) insurance. A population has a far lower opportunity to experience severe outbreaks of illness, hospitalization and/or death. From a health and financial standpoint the return on investment seems simple.

Prevention is far easier and less costly than treatment.

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A Tetanus shot "may" kill you and if you got jabbed with something in the yard while at work, you would likely be required to get one. But keep doing what you do.


It's good to get 1 of those every 10 years.
I dunno. It "may" kill you!

I’ve done my own research. They can’t force me!


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badrogue17 wrote:
stats wrote:
SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
what resources do i need to seek when im already fully aware the vaccine isnt 100% effective, I can still get sick, still get others sick, and masks are ineffective in stopping the spread vaccinated or not?

Should I watch the Fauci documentary on Hulu? Will that bring me to your enlightened level, Stats?

I'm not "enlightened". I just read new information and place my trust in science over social media and charlatans.

• The FDA, CDC and clinical trials publicly stated vaccine effectiveness is not 100%.
• Vaccines have also shown to not have sustained effectiveness in preventing the spread of the Delta variant.
• However, the vaccines have shown to greatly reduce the severity of illness, rate of hospitalization, and probability of death.
• Currently there are studies underway to determine the time horizon of the protection from severe illness, hospitalization and death.
• Early indications are the effectiveness wanes and booster might be needed for at-risk individuals or individuals in high exposure industries.

Hope that helps.


Aren’t the odds already very low that I’ll have a severe case of Covid,
not going up in the hospital and not end up dead?

I don't know anything about you.

My interpretation is the vaccine provides a cheap (free) insurance. A population has a far lower opportunity to experience severe outbreaks of illness, hospitalization and/or death. From a health and financial standpoint the return on investment seems simple.

Prevention is far easier and less costly than treatment.


see india, and get back with knowledge

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