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Ok I get Baldwin is a douche sometimes but I feel terrible for him. He's got to be beside himself with grief and blame. I'd be sick if something like this happened to me.

You’re a gun guy though. Would you ever, for any reason, point any gun at a person and pull the trigger (which he seemingly did twice)?

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Ok I get Baldwin is a douche sometimes but I feel terrible for him. He's got to be beside himself with grief and blame. I'd be sick if something like this happened to me.

You’re a gun guy though. Would you ever, for any reason, point any gun at a person and pull the trigger (which he seemingly did twice)?


The details on this aren't adding up yet. He didn't hit another actor in a scene. He hit the director and a videographer. How did that happen?

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Ok I get Baldwin is a douche sometimes but I feel terrible for him. He's got to be beside himself with grief and blame. I'd be sick if something like this happened to me.

You’re a gun guy though. Would you ever, for any reason, point any gun at a person and pull the trigger (which he seemingly did twice)?

If I had to kill someone I would.
But otherwise absolutely completely totally not.
This wasn't an actor he was supposed to be shooting. It was a cinematographer and the director. She he had to be fucking around with a gun that he didn't know the status of.

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Shall we all pull out our Jump to Conclusions mat? I think a Trump supporter swapped out the prop gun with a real one in order to make Baldwin look bad.

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Ok I get Baldwin is a douche sometimes but I feel terrible for him. He's got to be beside himself with grief and blame. I'd be sick if something like this happened to me.

You’re a gun guy though. Would you ever, for any reason, point any gun at a person and pull the trigger (which he seemingly did twice)?

If I had to kill someone I would.
But otherwise absolutely completely totally not.
This wasn't an actor he was supposed to be shooting. It was a cinematographer and the director. She he had to be fucking around with a gun that he didn't know the status of.

Yeah poor phrasing on my part. But safety 101 is don’t point the thing at people unless you want to shoot them.

And to WfR’s post, I’m buying the rumor where he was told to do another take and he did the ‘how bout I shoot you’ thing.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Ok I get Baldwin is a douche sometimes but I feel terrible for him. He's got to be beside himself with grief and blame. I'd be sick if something like this happened to me.

You’re a gun guy though. Would you ever, for any reason, point any gun at a person and pull the trigger (which he seemingly did twice)?

If I had to kill someone I would.
But otherwise absolutely completely totally not.
This wasn't an actor he was supposed to be shooting. It was a cinematographer and the director. She he had to be fucking around with a gun that he didn't know the status of.

Yeah poor phrasing on my part. But safety 101 is don’t point the thing at people unless you want to shoot them.

And to WfR’s post, I’m buying the rumor where he was told to do another take and he did the ‘how bout I shoot you’ thing.

If that's the case, I would imagine charges would be pending.
The more I think about this the more I think Baldwin might be at fault. When I first heard about this I thought it was an actor. But it's someone he ABSOLUTELY should not have been pointing a gun at.

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Shall we all pull out our Jump to Conclusions mat? I think a Trump supporter swapped out the prop gun with a real one in order to make Baldwin look bad.

I’m not sure if your Baldwin defense comes from your love of fake Spaniards or your love of real shitlibs.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Shall we all pull out our Jump to Conclusions mat? I think a Trump supporter swapped out the prop gun with a real one in order to make Baldwin look bad.

I’m not sure if your Baldwin defense comes from your love of fake Spaniards or your love of real shitlibs.


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Darkside wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Ok I get Baldwin is a douche sometimes but I feel terrible for him. He's got to be beside himself with grief and blame. I'd be sick if something like this happened to me.

You’re a gun guy though. Would you ever, for any reason, point any gun at a person and pull the trigger (which he seemingly did twice)?

If I had to kill someone I would.
But otherwise absolutely completely totally not.
This wasn't an actor he was supposed to be shooting. It was a cinematographer and the director. She he had to be fucking around with a gun that he didn't know the status of.

Yeah poor phrasing on my part. But safety 101 is don’t point the thing at people unless you want to shoot them.

And to WfR’s post, I’m buying the rumor where he was told to do another take and he did the ‘how bout I shoot you’ thing.

If that's the case, I would imagine charges would be pending.
The more I think about this the more I think Baldwin might be at fault. When I first heard about this I thought it was an actor. But it's someone he ABSOLUTELY should not have been pointing a gun at.

Well now that I think about it maybe they were filming him shooting at the camera or something.
I don't know what happened. I'll wait to find out.

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I doubt he wanted to shoot and/or kill somebody. But there probably should be a consequence for shooting & killing somebody.

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I doubt he wanted to shoot and/or kill somebody. But there probably should be a consequence for shooting & killing somebody.


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If you’re celebrating the demise of Alec Baldwin’s career and mental health because he was mean to Trump then I think you’ve let the propaganda win.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
I doubt he wanted to shoot and/or kill somebody. But there probably should be a consequence for shooting & killing somebody.

Obviously in general yes there should be, but I think we need to hear the details of what happened. There seems to be a lot of missing info.

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If you’re celebrating the demise of Alec Baldwin’s career and mental health because he was mean to Trump then I think you’ve let the propaganda win.

Counterpoint: if you’re more concerned with the mental health of the guy who heads the Film Actors Guild than the people he shot, you may have lost the plot a bit.

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I think it's really dumb that the nation is talking about this only because Alec Baldwin is famous. If this were an unknown actor or stuntman or whatever it wouldn't register at all.

That being said, you don't necessarily point the gun at your target in a movie. Sometimes you deliberately point away because there is explosive material in the prop. Obviously that material isn't supposed to be lethal. And the thing about pointing away from the target wouldn't be clearly visible in the final cut.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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If you’re celebrating the demise of Alec Baldwin’s career and mental health because he was mean to Trump then I think you’ve let the propaganda win.

Counterpoint: if you’re more concerned with the mental health of the guy who heads the Film Actors Guild than the people he shot, you may have lost the plot a bit.


Im weeping for both. Do I win?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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If you’re celebrating the demise of Alec Baldwin’s career and mental health because he was mean to Trump then I think you’ve let the propaganda win.

Counterpoint: if you’re more concerned with the mental health of the guy who heads the Film Actors Guild than the people he shot, you may have lost the plot a bit.


For sure.

He’s not the victim by any means.

Are you purposefully trying to obfuscate my point?

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If you’re celebrating the demise of Alec Baldwin’s career and mental health because he was mean to Trump then I think you’ve let the propaganda win.

Counterpoint: if you’re more concerned with the mental health of the guy who heads the Film Actors Guild than the people he shot, you may have lost the plot a bit.


Im weeping for both. Do I win?

Well he shot two people, so you’re leaving somebody out of this ménage à trois of death & pain.

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If you’re celebrating the demise of Alec Baldwin’s career and mental health because he was mean to Trump then I think you’ve let the propaganda win.

Counterpoint: if you’re more concerned with the mental health of the guy who heads the Film Actors Guild than the people he shot, you may have lost the plot a bit.


For sure.

He’s not the victim by any means.

Are you purposefully trying to obfuscate my point?

Yes, I’m bored.

And I don’t care about Baldwin’s career or mental health, so it was an easy mark.

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I doubt he wanted to shoot and/or kill somebody. But there probably should be a consequence for shooting & killing somebody.

Obviously in general yes there should be, but I think we need to hear the details of what happened. There seems to be a lot of missing info.

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Shall we all pull out our Jump to Conclusions mat? I think a Trump supporter swapped out the prop gun with a real one in order to make Baldwin look bad.



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If you’re celebrating the demise of Alec Baldwin’s career and mental health because he was mean to Trump then I think you’ve let the propaganda win.

I’m celebrating it because it’s not too often someone gets to realize their thoughts writ large in real time.
People now get to Monday morning quarterback his actions . Just as he liked to do .

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You’re a gun guy though. Would you ever, for any reason, point any gun at a person and pull the trigger (which he seemingly did twice)?


Don't point it at anything you aren't willing to pay for or kill is what we were told.

This has to be on the prop guy, no?


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I didn't realize Baldwin was a police officer

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I didn't realize Baldwin was a police officer


If he was you would want him in jail for life.

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I didn't realize Baldwin was a police officer


If he was you would want him in jail for life.


Yeah dude. I would.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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If you’re celebrating the demise of Alec Baldwin’s career and mental health because he was mean to Trump then I think you’ve let the propaganda win.

Counterpoint: if you’re more concerned with the mental health of the guy who heads the Film Actors Guild than the people he shot, you may have lost the plot a bit.


For sure.

He’s not the victim by any means.

Are you purposefully trying to obfuscate my point?

Yes, I’m bored.

And I don’t care about Baldwin’s career or mental health, so it was an easy mark.

You do realize MANY Trump apologists care more about Baldwin’s suffering than the woman who died?

Members of my family included.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
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I didn't realize Baldwin was a police officer


If he was you would want him in jail for life.


Yeah dude. I would.


Want to play jump to conclusions, dude?

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Jbi11s wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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If you’re celebrating the demise of Alec Baldwin’s career and mental health because he was mean to Trump then I think you’ve let the propaganda win.

Counterpoint: if you’re more concerned with the mental health of the guy who heads the Film Actors Guild than the people he shot, you may have lost the plot a bit.


For sure.

He’s not the victim by any means.

Are you purposefully trying to obfuscate my point?

Yes, I’m bored.

And I don’t care about Baldwin’s career or mental health, so it was an easy mark.

You do realize MANY Trump apologists care more about Baldwin’s suffering than the woman who died?

Members of my family included.

For sure. And I’ll skip past the fact that grace offered to Baldwin by MANY wouldn’t be there for conservative luminaries like…ummm…Gary Sinise? Kelsey Grammer?

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