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The report doesn't paint a good light on Coach Q either.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
The report doesn't paint a good light on Coach Q either.


Q is the Joe Paterno in this whole situation

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Add Donald Fehr too, I mean burn Donald Fehr alive too.


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
The report doesn't paint a good light on Coach Q either.


Q is the Joe Paterno in this whole situation

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Stan Bowman's statement

https://www.mystateline.com/sports/nhl/ ... lackhawks/


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“Since joining the Blackhawks in 2000, I have been extremely grateful for the opportunities presented to me and proud of our accomplishments. This organization, beginning with the Wirtz family, has been extraordinarily good to my family and to me. That is why today, after discussions with Rocky and Danny, I have decided to step aside. The team needs to focus on its future, and my continued participation would be a distraction. I think too much of this organization to let that happen.
Eleven years ago, while serving in my first year as general manager, I was made aware of potential inappropriate behavior by a then-video coach involving a player. I promptly reported the matter to the then-President and CEO who committed to handling the matter. I learned this year that the inappropriate behavior involved a serious allegation of sexual assault. I relied on the direction of my superior that he would take appropriate action. Looking back, now knowing he did not handle the matter promptly, I regret assuming he would do so.
I am confident that this organization and the Wirtz family will continue to do what it takes to win championships, with integrity and with the goal of doing what is right.
I am deeply grateful to the Blackhawks for the chance to manage the team; to the players for their dedication; and to the fans for their tremendous support over the years. It has been an honor to have been part of this incredible organization, and to serve the best fans in hockey, in the greatest city in the world. I will always cherish my time with the Chicago Blackhawks. On behalf of myself and my family, thank you.”


Bus tossing McDonough. The Athletic has a link to the report. I skimmed it briefly, and in the narrative, it was discussed that the allegations were first reported the morning the Hawks won the West - before the game.

McDonough, Blunk, Bowman, Macisaac, Q, et al met after, and McDonough and Blunk said they'd handle it.

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Panthers are 5-0-0 but I have a hard team seeing Q keeping his job right now.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Panthers are 5-0-0 but I have a hard team seeing Q keeping his job right now.


From the NHL...


"With respect to Messrs. Cheveldayoff and Quenneville, who are currently employed by NHL Clubs other than the Blackhawks (the Winnipeg Jets and the Florida Panthers, respectively), I plan to arrange personal meetings in the near future with both individuals to discuss their roles in the relevant events as detailed in the Report. I will reserve judgment on next steps, if any, with respect to them."

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I doubt Q gets canned...maybe an arranged retirement after the season.

Cheveldayoff should be sentenced to go work in the AHL for eternity. Just because.

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Stan Bowman's statement

https://www.mystateline.com/sports/nhl/ ... lackhawks/


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“Since joining the Blackhawks in 2000, I have been extremely grateful for the opportunities presented to me and proud of our accomplishments. This organization, beginning with the Wirtz family, has been extraordinarily good to my family and to me. That is why today, after discussions with Rocky and Danny, I have decided to step aside. The team needs to focus on its future, and my continued participation would be a distraction. I think too much of this organization to let that happen.
Eleven years ago, while serving in my first year as general manager, I was made aware of potential inappropriate behavior by a then-video coach involving a player. I promptly reported the matter to the then-President and CEO who committed to handling the matter. I learned this year that the inappropriate behavior involved a serious allegation of sexual assault. I relied on the direction of my superior that he would take appropriate action. Looking back, now knowing he did not handle the matter promptly, I regret assuming he would do so.
I am confident that this organization and the Wirtz family will continue to do what it takes to win championships, with integrity and with the goal of doing what is right.
I am deeply grateful to the Blackhawks for the chance to manage the team; to the players for their dedication; and to the fans for their tremendous support over the years. It has been an honor to have been part of this incredible organization, and to serve the best fans in hockey, in the greatest city in the world. I will always cherish my time with the Chicago Blackhawks. On behalf of myself and my family, thank you.”


Bus tossing McDonough. The Athletic has a link to the report. I skimmed it briefly, and in the narrative, it was discussed that the allegations were first reported the morning the Hawks won the West - before the game.

McDonough, Blunk, Bowman, Macisaac, Q, et al met after, and McDonough and Blunk said they'd handle it.



In the end, McDonough is responsible for this.

He made a decision to hope it went away apparently.

No more looking over his shoulder anymore, or worrying about his reputation either.

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https://www.nhl.com/news/chicago-fined- ... -327259100

I'm not buying the story that the Wirtz family didn't know anything until the lawsuit.

When I was working there early in this millenium, they had snitches everywhere.

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Almost no way the wirtz's were in the dark. These guys all knew. The players knew. Shit, they were teasing the victim in the locker room.

The worst part is that they kept the coach around for the rest of the playoffs, gave him a ring, let him have his day with the Cup(no pun intended), then let him resign and move on to commit more assaults. That's really fucked up.

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https://www.nhl.com/news/chicago-fined-2-million-by-nhl/c-327259100

I'm not buying the story that the Wirtz family didn't know anything until the lawsuit.

When I was working there early in this millenium, they had snitches everywhere.

No doubt Rocky knew. Danny probably didn't just by virtue of having no connection with the organization then.

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I'm sure there was some Sgt shultz plausible deniability there.

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Here's the executive summary of the report, direct copy and paste from a pdf so deal with the formatting issues

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I. Executive Summary
On May 7, 2021, a hockey player formerly affiliated with the Chicago Blackhawks Hockey Team (the “Blackhawks”) filed a lawsuit against the team. The player, John Doe, alleged that in May 2010, he was sexually assaulted by the then-video coach for the Blackhawks. John Doe further alleged that the Blackhawks were made aware of the alleged assault soon after it occurred and failed to act to address the assault. In late June 2021, Jenner & Block LLP (“Jenner & Block”) was hired by the Blackhawks to conduct an independent investigation. Over the course of four months, we investigated (i) the conduct of the former video coach, Brad Aldrich, in and around May 2010; (ii) the extent to which individuals affiliated with the Blackhawks, including those in senior management, knew about Aldrich’s conduct in May 2010, and when and how those individuals learned about the conduct; and (iii) when and how individuals affiliated with the Blackhawks, including those in senior management, responded to the information they learned about Aldrich’s conduct in May 2010.
Our investigation uncovered the following events. On May 8 or 9, 2010, John Doe had a sexual encounter with Brad Aldrich. The Blackhawks were in the midst of the National Hockey League (“NHL”) playoffs and ultimately won the Stanley Cup for the first time since 1961. John Doe was a twenty-year-old hockey player for the Blackhawks’ minor league affiliate team. He was called up to Chicago during the 2010 playoffs to serve as a “Black Ace,” a prospect player who could be available to play for the Blackhawks if needed. Brad Aldrich was the Blackhawks’ twenty-seven-year-old video coach in his second full year in the job. Aldrich was responsible for cutting video clips of game footage for the other Blackhawks’ coaches.
Today, John Doe and Brad Aldrich have widely divergent recollections of the sexual encounter, but both men agree an encounter occurred. The heart of the difference between the two recollections is not only what occurred during the
a This report contains descriptions that are graphic in nature and language that at times may be offensive.
Throughout this report, footnotes are denoted with letters and endnotes are denoted with numbers. encounter, but most critically whether the encounter was consensual. John Doe stated that the encounter was entirely non-consensual. John Doe stated, among other details, that on one occasion, during the second week of May 2010, Aldrich invited him to his apartment, provided him with dinner and drinks, told him he had the power to get John Doe onto the Blackhawks’ roster, and turned on pornography. John Doe stated that Aldrich threatened John Doe by telling John Doe he needed to act like he enjoyed the sexual encounter or John Doe would never play in the NHL “or walk” again, forcibly performed oral sex on John Doe, masturbated on John Doe’s back, and then threatened John Doe again before John Doe was able to escape Aldrich’s apartment.
According to a confidant of John Doe who did not work for the Blackhawks, a little over one week after the sexual encounter, John Doe shared certain details of the encounter with the confidant. The confidant stated to us that John Doe was clear at the time that the encounter was not consensual.
Brad Aldrich stated that the encounter was entirely consensual. Aldrich stated, among other details, that he brought John Doe and a woman from a bar to Aldrich’s apartment, played strip poker, and engaged in oral sex with the woman, but not with John Doe. Aldrich further stated that after the woman left Aldrich’s apartment, Aldrich and Doe watched pornography, Aldrich received permission to engage in a sexual encounter with John Doe, Aldrich performed oral sex on John Doe, and Aldrich received a “hand job” from John Doe.
The woman present at the beginning of the encounter described by Aldrich was located and interviewed as part of this investigation. The woman recalled being present for and engaging in sexual activity with John Doe and Aldrich in Aldrich’s apartment in Chicago, but leaving at a certain point while Aldrich and John Doe remained at Aldrich’s apartment. Her version of events contradicts certain of Aldrich’s statements, and also contradicts certain of John Doe’s statements, who said that he went to Aldrich’s apartment building with the woman on a different evening, but the woman left before entering the apartment and no sexual encounter with the woman occurred.
On May 23, 2010, the Blackhawks’ Senior Director of Hockey Administration Al MacIsaac was told by a Blackhawks employee that there may have been a sexual encounter involving Aldrich and John Doe. MacIsaac dispatched the Blackhawks’ mental skills coach and team counselor Jim Gary to speak to John Doe to gather details of what may have happened. John Doe recalled that he told Gary the details of the encounter with Aldrich as he reported them to us during our investigation and as described above. Gary recalled a conversation with John Doe on May 23, 2010 during which Gary obtained limited, yet still very troubling information from John Doe that Gary believed to be true: that Aldrich was pressuring John Doe to have sex with him and that Aldrich told John Doe that if John Doe did not comply, Aldrich could harm John Doe’s career.
Later on May 23, within an hour after the Blackhawks won the playoff game that secured their place in the Stanley Cup Finals, five members of senior management (then-President John McDonough, MacIsaac, General Manager Stan Bowman, then-Executive Vice President Jay Blunk, and then-Assistant General Manager Kevin Cheveldayoff), along with then-head coach Joel Quenneville, and Gary, met to discuss what had been learned about Aldrich and John Doe. Accounts of the meeting vary significantly, and the participants had limited recollections of the details of the meeting. All of the participants recalled being informed that there was an incident between Aldrich and John Doe involving an unwelcome sexual advance, but, for the most part, the participants reported that they only learned about the incident at a high level—that Aldrich, a coach, tried to “get under the sheets” with John Doe, a player. Gary recalled telling everyone in the meeting what he said John Doe told him—that Aldrich was pressuring John Doe to have sex with him and that Aldrich told John Doe that if John Doe did not submit to Aldrich’s advances, he could harm John Doe’s career. None of the participants recalled being told about the type of clearly non-consensual sexual conduct that is described by John Doe in his lawsuit or was described during John Doe’s interview with us.
Bowman recalled that during the meeting, McDonough and Quenneville made comments about the challenge of getting to the Stanley Cup Finals and a desire to focus on the team and the playoffs. Several years later, MacIsaac, in discussing the situation between Aldrich and John Doe with another Blackhawks employee, stated that McDonough did not want any negative publicity during the Stanley Cup Finals.
While there was a general failure to recall how the meeting ended, Bowman recalled a statement by McDonough, the most senior member of management in the room, that he would handle the situation. Regardless of who was, or was perceived to be, responsible for handling the situation, Aldrich continued to travel and work with the team, and participate in team activities throughout the playoffs. We found no evidence that any action was taken to address the issue until after the playoffs ended.
A Blackhawks policy at the time provided that all reports of sexual harassment would be “promptly and thoroughly” investigated. Our investigation uncovered no evidence, however, that McDonough or anyone else either contacted Human Resources or initiated an investigation between May 23 and June 14. The Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup on June 9. On June 10, during an evening in which players, coaches, and other employees took the Stanley Cup to various Chicago locations to celebrate the team’s championship, Aldrich made a sexual advance on a Blackhawks intern who was twenty-two years old, physically touching the intern. The intern rebuffed Aldrich’s advance and did not report the encounter to management or Human Resources.
Four days later, on June 14, McDonough informed the Blackhawks’ then-Director of Human Resources that Aldrich had allegedly made a sexual advance on John Doe. According to the Director of Human Resources, McDonough also informed her about the May 23 meeting in his office, during which McDonough said it was decided that the group would not alert Human Resources or do anything about the incident during the playoffs so as not to disturb team chemistry. When interviewed, McDonough stated that he did not recall this conversation with the Director of Human Resources.

On June 16, 2010, the Director of Human Resources met with Aldrich and offered him the option to undergo an investigation into what occurred with John Doe or to resign. Aldrich chose to resign and signed a separation agreement during the meeting. No investigation was conducted. Aldrich received a severance and a playoff bonus, and continued to be paid a salary for several months. He was permitted to host the Stanley Cup for a day in his hometown, his name was engraved on the Stanley Cup, he received a
b Our investigation uncovered no evidence that the Blackhawks’ ownership (including the current Chairman and the current CEO), or the current President of Business Operations and the General Counsel (both of whom joined the organization in 2021), were aware of the events of 2010 at any time before John Doe’s potential civil lawsuit was brought to their attention ahead of its actual filing.

championship ring, and he attended a Stanley Cup banner-raising ceremony at the United Center. He went on to have paid and unpaid positions with USA Hockey, the University of Notre Dame, Miami University in Ohio, and Houghton High School in Houghton, Michigan. While in Houghton, in 2013, Aldrich was arrested and pled guilty to fourth degree criminal sexual conduct involving a minor.
This report is organized into ten sections, beginning with the scope and execution of our investigation, and as follows:
 We describe the structure of, and relevant policies governing, the Blackhawks organization in 2010, followed by background regarding Brad Aldrich and his employment with the Blackhawks.
 For context, we provide a detailed recitation of the 2010 NHL playoffs, when the majority of relevant events occurred; not all events in this report, however, are listed in chronological order.
 We next provide a thorough account of the sexual encounter between Aldrich and John Doe as told to us during our interviews of each individual, and describe certain subsequent events.
 We describe in detail the Blackhawks’ knowledge of what occurred between Aldrich and John Doe, including the conversations that occurred between and among coaches, senior management, and John Doe in the days and weeks that followed the encounter.
 We provide a detailed account of the Blackhawks’ actions and inactions during and after the 2010 playoffs, Aldrich’s separation from the team, and finally certain events in Aldrich’s life and John Doe’s life after the playoffs.
At the end of this report ,we offer our conclusions regarding the events that transpired in 2010.


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X. Conclusion
In May 2010, a sexual encounter involving John Doe and Brad Aldrich occurred at Aldrich’s apartment in Chicago. John Doe stated that the encounter was not consensual and was a sexual assault. Brad Aldrich stated that the encounter was consensual. In the days and weeks that followed, John Doe shared information about the encounter with his confidant; the Blackhawks’ skating coach (Paul Vincent); and the Blackhawks’ mental skills coach (Jim Gary), who was dispatched by Al MacIsaac to speak to John Doe. Gary took information he recalled receiving from John Doe to the senior leaders of the Blackhawks organization.
There are multiple accounts of what occurred during the meeting of those senior leaders at the United Center on May 23, 2010. Gary stated that he shared with the senior leaders that Aldrich was pressuring John Doe for sex and threatening to harm John Doe’s career if John Doe did not comply. Others recall Gary’s comments as less stark—that Aldrich had tried to “get under the sheets” with John Doe. At a minimum, the senior leaders, including then-President John McDonough, were informed of alleged sexual harassment of a player by a coach, including efforts by the coach to engage in unwelcome sexual activity with that player. Several witnesses recalled or later told others about a discussion that ensued during the meeting regarding whether the time was right to address the allegations against Aldrich in light of the need to protect team chemistry and avoid bad publicity during the ongoing playoffs.
What is clear is that, after being informed of Aldrich’s alleged sexual harassment and misconduct with a player, no action was taken for three weeks. One witness recalled that the decision on how to proceed was left in McDonough’s hands and another witness recalled McDonough saying he would speak to John Doe. McDonough did nothing to address the allegations until June 14, when he reported the information to the Director of Human Resources. While there was a lack of recollection as to whether anyone else present in the meeting besides McDonough needed to or would take any additional steps, nothing was done by the other senior leaders to address the situation.

As a result, the Blackhawks’ own sexual harassment policy—which required investigation of all reports of sexual harassment to be conducted “promptly and thoroughly”—was violated. The failure to promptly and thoroughly investigate the matter and the decision to take no action from May 23 to June 14 had consequences. During that period, Aldrich continued to work with and travel with the team. Aldrich engaged in an unwanted sexual advance on a Blackhawks intern—physically grabbing the intern in a sexual manner. And Aldrich continued to participate in team activities and celebrations, in the presence of John Doe.
Even after the allegations were finally reported to the Director of Human Resources, still no investigation occurred, and Aldrich was permitted to resign his position and to continue participating in Stanley Cup victory events.


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This should be a non story . Both the Wirtz’ and Bowman are vaccinated .

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Almost no way the wirtz's were in the dark. These guys all knew. The players knew. Shit, they were teasing the victim in the locker room.

The worst part is that they kept the coach around for the rest of the playoffs, gave him a ring, let him have his day with the Cup(no pun intended), then let him resign and move on to commit more assaults. That's really fucked up.


Yes it is.

McDonough owns this.

I wonder if he will speak to the media.

I'm going to guess no.

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Of course ownership knew about it, that's why McBeanieBaby was eschewed out last year.


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I don't know.. Sounds like a Thomas Kopecky thing to say (I'm not sure I've ever heard Thomas Kopecky ever speak).


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I don't know.. Sounds like a Thomas Kopecky thing to say (I'm not sure I've ever heard Thomas Kopecky ever speak).

if I had to take an honest stab at it, I'd say Duncs. I mean you have to be a little not right in the head to do "wakey wakey Backes" as he lies unconscious on the ice.

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I don't know.. Sounds like a Thomas Kopecky thing to say (I'm not sure I've ever heard Thomas Kopecky ever speak).


Why do you hate Polish guys? This will anger good dolphin

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He was an Atlanta Thrasher by the time that camp came around

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I don't know.. Sounds like a Thomas Kopecky thing to say (I'm not sure I've ever heard Thomas Kopecky ever speak).


Why do you hate Polish guys? This will anger good dolphin


Oh.. I see.. All those slavs look alike to you. Tomas (My apolgies for calling him Thomas) is a Slovak.


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I don't know.. Sounds like a Thomas Kopecky thing to say (I'm not sure I've ever heard Thomas Kopecky ever speak).


Why do you hate Polish guys? This will anger good dolphin


Oh.. I see.. All those slavs look alike to you. Tomas (My apolgies for calling him Thomas) is a Slovak.


Is he? Oh well.

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