We're all adults here. We can have this conversation.

Kids are vulnerable to these sicko predators. Obviously. I'm sickened by these stories.

But if you're 20 years old and there is no evidence of you putting up a fight, I don't think you're raped. Not allowed to have this opinion. I know. Just me. I guess I'm not evolved.

I'm not the biggest guy in the world. If a bigger guy wanted to rape me, he could. I could be over powered. Thank god for me, sicko rapist predators hate me in the same way that white women do.

I'm just saying, if somebody was trying to rape me, I'm going down with a fight. That's all.

Shut the fuck up.

Unless you are drugged. Then you're not.

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

You didnt offer up much resistance that one weekend on Fire Island.

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SS, if he satisfied you that day, we need to move this thread to cum town.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I have to correct the record here, but Beach got his dick sucked

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Are you referring to the blackhawks thing or was this also part of the SS/Beardown connection?

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Author, Ted talker, 19th Annual Aboriginal Achievement Awards co-host and 1989 (the year Gretzky jumped to the Kings) Stanley Cup Champion Theo(ren) Fleury guests on the latest Dopey. Dopey's a podcast featuring a former junkie host dedicated to knocking off as many of his junkie friends as possible.


Fleury's interview segment begins around 15:15 mark; the host Dave shines in interviews and when shooting the shit with other dopers, but is a difficult monologue listen. e.g., "Fleury played for the Calgary Flames, New York Rangers, Colorado Rockies and the Chicago---wtf is the name of the fucking hockey team in Chicago? White Sox?"

The portion relevant to this thread--well, it's all somewhat relevant--but the money shot admission occurs around the 23 mark of the pod, 8 minutes into the interview (iirc). Killer Dave is having Fleury go through his hockey bona fides and how he overcame a shitty childhood to become a mildly famous recovering alcoholic drug-addict. Fleury recounts his transition from promising western Canada pond hockey player to future 8th round NHL draft pick:

"At the age of 15 I [Theoren] ran into this coach, scout, recruiter, who promised a one way ticket to the nhl, over the next 2.5 years this coach raped me 150 times over 2.5 years."






"This coach wasn't just any coach, this coach was Graham James, 2 time Hockey News 'Hawkey Man of the Year" Graham James."
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"Yeah, that POS Graham James"
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"So you were living with Graham James, dependent on him for a roof and meals etc and he took advantage"
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"Oh, no, I never lived with Graham James, I'd over to his house 3 times a week for the "
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(Eh) maybe possibly if there's a guy in a house who butt rapes you every time you go into that house, I dunno,...maybe don't go in that house anymore?

(2) One look at Graham James and you know he's a pedo: Hockey Man of the Year 'Graham James'

Go on….

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Ok. Sorry. It wasn't anal rape. It was a blow job. Let's get graphic here. Down to details.

1. So a smaller guy about your age gets your pants off and is about to suck your dick. There is no reaction by you to kick him or punch him if you don't want it? He was fucking 20 years old and 6'3. If I didn't want it to happen I would kick and punch. C'mon? It was consentual. He didn't have a gun to his head. Then I could understand.

2. I was listening to Rosie and Grote today. They said it's about power? That's why it happened. That the coach had power over him. What the fuck? He was a first round draft pick. The guy sucking his dick was a lowly video coach. I repeat. A fucking video coach. The first round draft pick has power over the fucking video coach. He's more important to the organization.

It was consensual. The player was embarrassed when it got known. Doesn't mean the guy that sucked his dick isn't a pedophile. He obviously is based on his conviction of abusing a kid. But both can be true.

I'll just never buy that some guy is able to suck your dick, without consent, without a fight.

Obviously kids are different. But he was a big strong 20 year old guy.

From what I've heard on the SCORE, they are presenting it like he was a kid.

AFAKAPB, is that you?

The title of this thread has some great board serendipity potential.

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from an organizational standpoint, coercion is just as bad as physical force

it is analogous to the roger ailes situation at fox

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Coercion is fine as long as the person isn't a subordinate.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Coercion requires real, implied or perceived leverage.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

When young good dolphin left the bar with a lady, what leverage did you have?

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

none

which is why that would be criminal if something happened. This incident wasn't criminal. The criminal side was further down the line and a tragic outcome of the blackhawks inaction.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Then you don't disagree with me.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I'm sure I do but I don't know what we are agreeing on

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Reminds me of Norm's Swedish German Andy Richter joke.