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I'm still not convinced that Nagy won't return.


If the season ended in the same position we are now (no playoffs, losing record, lack of clarity on Fields) there can be no way he is back. Now with our luck, they will beat a Murray-less Cardinals team, and then Rodgers will be out with Covid toe. If they somehow finish 8-9, and Fields and the offense look better, I wouldn't put it past them to bring him back.



I dont see them winning 2 more games the rest of the season.

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I'm still not convinced that Nagy won't return.


If the season ended in the same position we are now (no playoffs, losing record, lack of clarity on Fields) there can be no way he is back. Now with our luck, they will beat a Murray-less Cardinals team, and then Rodgers will be out with Covid toe. If they somehow finish 8-9, and Fields and the offense look better, I wouldn't put it past them to bring him back.



I dont see them winning 2 more games the rest of the season.


Seahawks and Giants look like winnable games.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Matt Nagy
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His offenses have consistently been bottom 5, cratered to rock bottom early this year, most teams would fire the OC, but when your coach is your OC you need to move along.

The defense is the main reason the team is competitive and Nagy self admittedly does not really pay attention to the defense.

Am hearing a lot of, "Bears are still in the hunt", crap on sports talk radio, so that is likely the line being trotted out there by the team, chumming the water for a possible Nagy return.


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The running game is top 5 to 10 this year. That's a significant improvement. Especially for those who want the Bears to run the ball. I personally would love to see an explosive passing game in the 21st century.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Matt Nagy
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As always, I love the optimism, but team is bottom 5 overall and last by 20 YPG in passing offense, trailing the Texans who I think started Nas a few weeks ago at QB?

Nagy was brought in as an offensive genius, but his offense has been bottom third for the past several seasons. He also despises the run, so the teams ranking in that area is solely because Lazor mercifully ended Nagy's tenure as one of the worst in game play callers in the league.

I do agree with Hoodie in that Pace is the primary problem, but Nagy likely has a great deal of input in offensive roster construction and picks the guys that get the most snaps, so he does have culpability for the offenses failures.

That said, the teams long term future is completely dependent upon the develop of Justin Fields, a franchise QB makes everything else easier, so go out and find the guy that can build a roster around him and a HC that recognized his strengths and develops game plans that take advantage of his abilities.


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I'm still not convinced that Nagy won't return.


If the season ended in the same position we are now (no playoffs, losing record, lack of clarity on Fields) there can be no way he is back. Now with our luck, they will beat a Murray-less Cardinals team, and then Rodgers will be out with Covid toe. If they somehow finish 8-9, and Fields and the offense look better, I wouldn't put it past them to bring him back.



I dont see them winning 2 more games the rest of the season.


Seahawks and Giants look like winnable games.


Seattle is pretty tough at home.

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Can't agree with this. Nagy was broken before the double doink, right? In that same playoff game, you had all the hallmarks of the Nagy era. 0 TDs in the first half. Defense bends then breaks at the worst possible time. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has a brief flash of brilliance when the Eagles are sleeping. In hindsight, how the living fuck did you lose to Nick Foles with that defense and team?

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Can't agree with this. Nagy was broken before the double doink, right? In that same playoff game, you had all the hallmarks of the Nagy era. 0 TDs in the first half. Defense bends then breaks at the worst possible time. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has a brief flash of brilliance when the Eagles are sleeping. In hindsight, how the living fuck did you lose to Nick Foles with that defense and team?


He wasn't the after the Rams game or somewhere around there. I liked Santa Sleigh Nagy a lot. Fear has ruined him.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Matt Nagy
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It's still absolutely mind blowing that Nagy is something like 0-8 or 0-9 if you take the first two games of the season or first two games off the bye. You'd think the Bears would have backed into at least one win after getting healthy and having time to prepare for an opponent.

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All that shit did go down in the playoff game, but if Parkey makes the kick Nagy probably “gets over it”


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Kick was blocked. Bears lost because the offense didn't show up. Parkey was MVP.

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Kick was blocked. Bears lost because the offense didn't show up. Parkey was MVP.

Hard to argue. 15 goddamn points. That's a Nagy trademark man.
But Parkey can suck a fat one.

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Kick was blocked. Bears lost because the offense didn't show up. Parkey was MVP.

Hard to argue. 15 goddamn points. That's a Nagy trademark man.
But Parkey can suck a fat one.

Vegan’s first two sentences are correct and his last sentence is hilariously dumb

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A short kick that’s tipped is typically the fault of the kicker.

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A short kick that’s tipped is typically the fault of the kicker.

If its tipped and reaches the goalpost its basically unquestionably the kicker’s fault

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Can't agree with this. Nagy was broken before the double doink, right? In that same playoff game, you had all the hallmarks of the Nagy era. 0 TDs in the first half. Defense bends then breaks at the worst possible time. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has a brief flash of brilliance when the Eagles are sleeping. In hindsight, how the living fuck did you lose to Nick Foles with that defense and team?



I would take it a step further. Nagy was never really all that great. What was the Bears offensive ranking in 2018? Somewhere around 20, right? And that was his high-water mark.

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Can't agree with this. Nagy was broken before the double doink, right? In that same playoff game, you had all the hallmarks of the Nagy era. 0 TDs in the first half. Defense bends then breaks at the worst possible time. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has a brief flash of brilliance when the Eagles are sleeping. In hindsight, how the living fuck did you lose to Nick Foles with that defense and team?



I would take it a step further. Nagy was never really all that great. What was the Bears offensive ranking in 2018? Somewhere around 20, right? And that was his high-water mark.


He had half a season of greatness

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Can't agree with this. Nagy was broken before the double doink, right? In that same playoff game, you had all the hallmarks of the Nagy era. 0 TDs in the first half. Defense bends then breaks at the worst possible time. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has a brief flash of brilliance when the Eagles are sleeping. In hindsight, how the living fuck did you lose to Nick Foles with that defense and team?



I would take it a step further. Nagy was never really all that great. What was the Bears offensive ranking in 2018? Somewhere around 20, right? And that was his high-water mark.



I think he was top 10 until week 6 then declined weekly, probably finished around 21st or so.. not good.

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I'm curious what happens to the offenses' ranking that year if you take out the Bucs game with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky throwing for 350 and 6TDs? Probably isn't good.

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Can't agree with this. Nagy was broken before the double doink, right? In that same playoff game, you had all the hallmarks of the Nagy era. 0 TDs in the first half. Defense bends then breaks at the worst possible time. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has a brief flash of brilliance when the Eagles are sleeping. In hindsight, how the living fuck did you lose to Nick Foles with that defense and team?



I would take it a step further. Nagy was never really all that great. What was the Bears offensive ranking in 2018? Somewhere around 20, right? And that was his high-water mark.

That Tampa game was fun though

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What's the over / under this week on when the "Fire Nagy" chants start?
I'll go with 1st quarter on the second failed offensive possession.

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I can see it starting in pre game stuff.

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I can see it starting in pre game stuff.


Yep! It's become a thing.

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Can someone leak to "Local teen knits mittens for homeless people".com that Nagy will NOT be fired after the game this weekend?

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whatever blame percentage he deserves for this OL is on him. But his offense, goofy as it is, would work with a good OL and better WR. This to me still falls back to Pace moreso than Nagy. If they don't replace Pace with a guy that knows how to draft OL and DL we will never get better.

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Can someone leak to "Local teen knits mittens for homeless people".com that Nagy will NOT be fired after the game this weekend?


My guy says that he was fired 3 weeks ago but he keeps showing up to work.

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whatever blame percentage he deserves for this OL is on him. But his offense, goofy as it is, would work with a good OL and better WR. This to me still falls back to Pace moreso than Nagy. If they don't replace Pace with a guy that knows how to draft OL and DL we will never get better.


The OL looks like the most stable position on offense this year after RB.

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