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I agree with the payout.

Seems like this is already a PR nightmare to an extent tho.

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I agree with the payout.

Seems like this is already a PR nightmare to an extent.
The Amazon detractors will use anything against them but ultimately it's not going to be a major thing to blame Amazon that a huge tornado destroyed their warehouse unless they fight with the families about it who died.

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I agree with the payout.

Seems like this is already a PR nightmare to an extent.
The Amazon detractors will use anything against them but ultimately it's not going to be a major thing to blame Amazon that a huge tornado destroyed their warehouse unless they fight with the families about it who died.


You’re only saying that cos the news of Bezos’ weather control device has yet to leak.

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No one is suing Amazon. In Illinois we have exclusive remedy. when you get hurt/killed on the job your exclusive remedy for relief from your employer is to file work comp claim.

Only other option is to tie a 3rd party claim into it as well if you can find a 3rd party (not Amazon) who was responsible for the death. Maybe there is a claim against whoever built the warehouse, but I don't know. That's above my pay grade as a construction engineer.


The amount of money you can receive for a work comp death case vs a civil lawsuit death case is quite a difference. Much less money available in Work Comp in that situation.

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I mean , I’ve never been allowed to go home because the weather is bad . I still don’t know what Amazon is supposed to do in that situation .
The only places that are more dangerous than being a giant building like that during a tornado is being in a car or in a mobile home.

Honestly you might have a better chance going out to an empty truck dock if it slopes down towards the building, crouch down and cover your head and neck.

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No one is suing Amazon. In Illinois we have exclusive remedy. when you get hurt/killed on the job your exclusive remedy for relief from your employer is to file work comp claim.

Only other option is to tie a 3rd party claim into it as well if you can find a 3rd party (not Amazon) who was responsible for the death. Maybe there is a claim against whoever built the warehouse, but I don't know. That's above my pay grade as a construction engineer.


The amount of money you can receive for a work comp death case vs a civil lawsuit death case is quite a difference. Much less money available in Work Comp in that situation.

I can promise you that unless Amazon pays them off quickly that a wrongful death suit is coming from those families. Amazon will settle to avoid the bad PR from a court case between them and 6 people who died in their factory.

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No one is suing Amazon. In Illinois we have exclusive remedy. when you get hurt/killed on the job your exclusive remedy for relief from your employer is to file work comp claim.

Only other option is to tie a 3rd party claim into it as well if you can find a 3rd party (not Amazon) who was responsible for the death. Maybe there is a claim against whoever built the warehouse, but I don't know. That's above my pay grade as a construction engineer.


The amount of money you can receive for a work comp death case vs a civil lawsuit death case is quite a difference. Much less money available in Work Comp in that situation.

I can promise you that unless Amazon pays them off quickly that a wrongful death suit is coming from those families. Amazon will settle to avoid the bad PR from a court case between them and 6 people who died in their factory.



Thanks Lawyer Rick. I'll be sure to let the State legislature know that you are changing the laws of Illinois one message board post at a time.


Amazon will settle these cases for top dollar, but top dollar in these cases in Work Comp is about $500,000 per death.

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shakes wrote:
No one is suing Amazon. In Illinois we have exclusive remedy. when you get hurt/killed on the job your exclusive remedy for relief from your employer is to file work comp claim.

Only other option is to tie a 3rd party claim into it as well if you can find a 3rd party (not Amazon) who was responsible for the death. Maybe there is a claim against whoever built the warehouse, but I don't know. That's above my pay grade as a construction engineer.


The amount of money you can receive for a work comp death case vs a civil lawsuit death case is quite a difference. Much less money available in Work Comp in that situation.

I can promise you that unless Amazon pays them off quickly that a wrongful death suit is coming from those families. Amazon will settle to avoid the bad PR from a court case between them and 6 people who died in their factory.



Thanks Lawyer Rick. I'll be sure to let the State legislature know that you are changing the laws of Illinois one message board post at a time.


Amazon will settle these cases for top dollar, but top dollar in these cases in Work Comp is about $500,000 per death.

I'll bump this in the next few weeks when we get the first "Family of person who died in Amazon warehouse collapse sues Amazon" article.

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Brick wrote:
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No one is suing Amazon. In Illinois we have exclusive remedy. when you get hurt/killed on the job your exclusive remedy for relief from your employer is to file work comp claim.

Only other option is to tie a 3rd party claim into it as well if you can find a 3rd party (not Amazon) who was responsible for the death. Maybe there is a claim against whoever built the warehouse, but I don't know. That's above my pay grade as a construction engineer.


The amount of money you can receive for a work comp death case vs a civil lawsuit death case is quite a difference. Much less money available in Work Comp in that situation.

I can promise you that unless Amazon pays them off quickly that a wrongful death suit is coming from those families. Amazon will settle to avoid the bad PR from a court case between them and 6 people who died in their factory.



Thanks Lawyer Rick. I'll be sure to let the State legislature know that you are changing the laws of Illinois one message board post at a time.


Amazon will settle these cases for top dollar, but top dollar in these cases in Work Comp is about $500,000 per death.

I'll bump this in the next few weeks when we get the first "Family of person who died in Amazon warehouse collapse sues Amazon" article.


and I'll bump it a month later when we get the article " lawsuit against Amazon for warehouse collapse dismissed by Court" :D

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shakes wrote:
Brick wrote:
shakes wrote:
Brick wrote:
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No one is suing Amazon. In Illinois we have exclusive remedy. when you get hurt/killed on the job your exclusive remedy for relief from your employer is to file work comp claim.

Only other option is to tie a 3rd party claim into it as well if you can find a 3rd party (not Amazon) who was responsible for the death. Maybe there is a claim against whoever built the warehouse, but I don't know. That's above my pay grade as a construction engineer.


The amount of money you can receive for a work comp death case vs a civil lawsuit death case is quite a difference. Much less money available in Work Comp in that situation.

I can promise you that unless Amazon pays them off quickly that a wrongful death suit is coming from those families. Amazon will settle to avoid the bad PR from a court case between them and 6 people who died in their factory.



Thanks Lawyer Rick. I'll be sure to let the State legislature know that you are changing the laws of Illinois one message board post at a time.


Amazon will settle these cases for top dollar, but top dollar in these cases in Work Comp is about $500,000 per death.

I'll bump this in the next few weeks when we get the first "Family of person who died in Amazon warehouse collapse sues Amazon" article.


and I'll bump it a month later when we get the article " lawsuit against Amazon for warehouse collapse dismissed by Court" :D

How quickly did you get down there Shakes?

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shakes wrote:
Brick wrote:
shakes wrote:
No one is suing Amazon. In Illinois we have exclusive remedy. when you get hurt/killed on the job your exclusive remedy for relief from your employer is to file work comp claim.

Only other option is to tie a 3rd party claim into it as well if you can find a 3rd party (not Amazon) who was responsible for the death. Maybe there is a claim against whoever built the warehouse, but I don't know. That's above my pay grade as a construction engineer.


The amount of money you can receive for a work comp death case vs a civil lawsuit death case is quite a difference. Much less money available in Work Comp in that situation.

I can promise you that unless Amazon pays them off quickly that a wrongful death suit is coming from those families. Amazon will settle to avoid the bad PR from a court case between them and 6 people who died in their factory.



Thanks Lawyer Rick. I'll be sure to let the State legislature know that you are changing the laws of Illinois one message board post at a time.


Amazon will settle these cases for top dollar, but top dollar in these cases in Work Comp is about $500,000 per death.

I'll bump this in the next few weeks when we get the first "Family of person who died in Amazon warehouse collapse sues Amazon" article.


and I'll bump it a month later when we get the article " lawsuit against Amazon for warehouse collapse dismissed by Court" :D

How quickly did you get down there Shakes?


:lol: :lol: not worth the drive unless there's a 3rd party claim. Undisputed death cases have a fee cap of $100 for attorneys.

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don't forget who i work with guys. i'm pretty sure i was doing the no-eye smile logo on my facebook before they did, right? or did they always have a smile under amazon.com when they were books and its a happy accident that both of us are blind and happy?

pure coincidence goyim! know your place!!

but yeah, while i havent had to leave civilization proper to go down/up the pike to the scary world of FCs and SCs like the one that got hit, i can stick up for the DS's. the company really only lost its soul with the switch from MCO to MC, and if it ever needs soul again it's got me like who else has got this locked up in a cold forgotten dungeon somewhere ready to light up somebody's needle some night if ever needed?

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Start a competing online services retailer and then make your own school curriculums. It's a free market sweaty.

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A course on being in management at a major corporation is pro-business? That's pretty shocking.

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I have had several internal courses on employee motivation. Studies show that it takes a lot more than pay to motivate employees. Well designed bonus plans are good for aligning incentives to achieve profitability. But keeping workers happy involves things like offering meaningful, challenging work, providing tools and support, involving them in decision making, having a well defined path for career development, etc.

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Hah yes Brick. The only difference between that and an MBA program is that it is being taught in High School…..

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I'll bet students attending that school outperform public school students.

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shakes wrote:
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No one is suing Amazon. In Illinois we have exclusive remedy. when you get hurt/killed on the job your exclusive remedy for relief from your employer is to file work comp claim.

Only other option is to tie a 3rd party claim into it as well if you can find a 3rd party (not Amazon) who was responsible for the death. Maybe there is a claim against whoever built the warehouse, but I don't know. That's above my pay grade as a construction engineer.

The amount of money you can receive for a work comp death case vs a civil lawsuit death case is quite a difference. Much less money available in Work Comp in that situation.

I can promise you that unless Amazon pays them off quickly that a wrongful death suit is coming from those families. Amazon will settle to avoid the bad PR from a court case between them and 6 people who died in their factory.


Thanks Lawyer Rick. I'll be sure to let the State legislature know that you are changing the laws of Illinois one message board post at a time.

Amazon will settle these cases for top dollar, but top dollar in these cases in Work Comp is about $500,000 per death.

I'll bump this in the next few weeks when we get the first "Family of person who died in Amazon warehouse collapse sues Amazon" article.


and I'll bump it a month later when we get the article " lawsuit against Amazon for warehouse collapse dismissed by Court" :D

This might be one of the best CFMB exchanges ever...BRick Bricking with an actual attorney.... :lol: :lol:
Shakes....thank you for dunking on him immediately. Dragging this out would have been painful for all of us spectators

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shakes wrote:
Brick wrote:
shakes wrote:
Brick wrote:
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No one is suing Amazon. In Illinois we have exclusive remedy. when you get hurt/killed on the job your exclusive remedy for relief from your employer is to file work comp claim.

Only other option is to tie a 3rd party claim into it as well if you can find a 3rd party (not Amazon) who was responsible for the death. Maybe there is a claim against whoever built the warehouse, but I don't know. That's above my pay grade as a construction engineer.

The amount of money you can receive for a work comp death case vs a civil lawsuit death case is quite a difference. Much less money available in Work Comp in that situation.

I can promise you that unless Amazon pays them off quickly that a wrongful death suit is coming from those families. Amazon will settle to avoid the bad PR from a court case between them and 6 people who died in their factory.


Thanks Lawyer Rick. I'll be sure to let the State legislature know that you are changing the laws of Illinois one message board post at a time.

Amazon will settle these cases for top dollar, but top dollar in these cases in Work Comp is about $500,000 per death.

I'll bump this in the next few weeks when we get the first "Family of person who died in Amazon warehouse collapse sues Amazon" article.


and I'll bump it a month later when we get the article " lawsuit against Amazon for warehouse collapse dismissed by Court" :D

This might be one of the best CFMB exchanges ever...BRick Bricking with an actual attorney.... :lol: :lol:
Shakes....thank you for dunking on him immediately. Dragging this out would have been painful for all of us spectators

Thanks for the reminder.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/lawsuit-against-amazon-filed-tornado-swarm-that-left-6-dead-illinois-warehouse-2022-01-17/

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Also, 6 months later it doesn't seem to have been dismissed.

Maybe change your name to BigL72.

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Also, 6 months later it doesn't seem to have been dismissed.

Maybe change your name to BigL72.

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