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Trae Young is 34-89 over his last 4 games. Hardly "doing his part".

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Trae Young is 34-89 over his last 4 games. Hardly "doing his part".


Oh yea, who doesn’t love raw stats and small sample sizes!


On the season Trae is having a great season shooting the ball. Putting him in MVP territory.

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Trae Young is 34-89 over his last 4 games. Hardly "doing his part".


Oh yea, who doesn’t love raw stats and small sample sizes!


On the season Trae is having a great season shooting the ball. Putting him in MVP territory.


The only person I've heard who has Trae in the MVP conversation is you. He's on a .500 team. Those stats are meaningless.

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hes such a little guy

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The immortal Trae Young last seen ducking the legendary Cole Anthony.

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Irving and Simmons have both ducked Anthony this year. Same with ducking Reggie Jackson and the crippled Kemba Walker.

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The immortal Trae Young last seen ducking the legendary Cole Anthony.


LTG with his strangest hill to die on yet. Trying to argue that Trae is lesser because he doesn't guard the other team's best guard. Meanwhile, there might be 2 top guards in the league that attempt to guard Trae. Yet LTG wants to single out Trae for this league wide and sport wide tendency.

meanwhile, in that same game Cole Anthony ducked Trae.



No one remind LTG how both Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both ducked Luka Doncic in the playoffs. I guess those guys are terrible players as well.

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shakes wrote:
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The immortal Trae Young last seen ducking the legendary Cole Anthony.


LTG with his strangest hill to die on yet. Trying to argue that Trae is lesser because he doesn't guard the other team's best guard. Meanwhile, there might be 2 top guards in the league that attempt to guard Trae. Yet LTG wants to single out Trae for this league wide and sport wide tendency.

meanwhile, in that same game Cole Anthony ducked Trae.



No one remind LTG how both Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both ducked Luka Doncic in the playoffs. I guess those guys are terrible players as well.


You want to know why? Because both have a track record of checking the best players in the game for throughout their career. Trae Young has been ducking guys in the league since day 1. He never guards his position. And if you think that doesn't play a role in the overall evaluation of him you're wrong.

Players notice it and so do those responsible for evaluating him as a player. And his shitty defense is one of the reasons that Atlanta will never go anywhere as a team.

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The Missing Link wrote:
shakes wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The immortal Trae Young last seen ducking the legendary Cole Anthony.


LTG with his strangest hill to die on yet. Trying to argue that Trae is lesser because he doesn't guard the other team's best guard. Meanwhile, there might be 2 top guards in the league that attempt to guard Trae. Yet LTG wants to single out Trae for this league wide and sport wide tendency.

meanwhile, in that same game Cole Anthony ducked Trae.



No one remind LTG how both Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both ducked Luka Doncic in the playoffs. I guess those guys are terrible players as well.


You want to know why? Because both have a track record of checking the best players in the game for throughout their career. Trae Young has been ducking guys in the league since day 1. He never guards his position. And if you think that doesn't play a role in the overall evaluation of him you're wrong.

Players notice it and so do those responsible for evaluating him as a player. And his shitty defense is one of the reasons that Atlanta will never go anywhere as a team.

It pisses me off that the Real Plus/Minus stats don't come out until like 40 games in. From watching Trae so far, I don't think he's budged from the 14th he was last year. He can get you back into a game but he can 30 foot you and TO you out of a game. He's a little better defensively. Mostly because he's getting a couple more rebounds per game.

That being said, he could win you a playoff series. He's one of a handful.


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Nardi wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
shakes wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The immortal Trae Young last seen ducking the legendary Cole Anthony.


LTG with his strangest hill to die on yet. Trying to argue that Trae is lesser because he doesn't guard the other team's best guard. Meanwhile, there might be 2 top guards in the league that attempt to guard Trae. Yet LTG wants to single out Trae for this league wide and sport wide tendency.

meanwhile, in that same game Cole Anthony ducked Trae.



No one remind LTG how both Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both ducked Luka Doncic in the playoffs. I guess those guys are terrible players as well.


You want to know why? Because both have a track record of checking the best players in the game for throughout their career. Trae Young has been ducking guys in the league since day 1. He never guards his position. And if you think that doesn't play a role in the overall evaluation of him you're wrong.

Players notice it and so do those responsible for evaluating him as a player. And his shitty defense is one of the reasons that Atlanta will never go anywhere as a team.

It pisses me off that the Real Plus/Minus stats don't come out until like 40 games in. From watching Trae so far, I don't think he's budged from the 14th he was last year. He can get you back into a game but he can 30 foot you and TO you out of a game. He's a little better defensively. Mostly because he's getting a couple more rebounds per game.

That being said, he could win you a playoff series. He's one of a handful.


He won't even be able to get them into the playoffs.

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The Missing Link wrote:
shakes wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The immortal Trae Young last seen ducking the legendary Cole Anthony.


LTG with his strangest hill to die on yet. Trying to argue that Trae is lesser because he doesn't guard the other team's best guard. Meanwhile, there might be 2 top guards in the league that attempt to guard Trae. Yet LTG wants to single out Trae for this league wide and sport wide tendency.

meanwhile, in that same game Cole Anthony ducked Trae.



No one remind LTG how both Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both ducked Luka Doncic in the playoffs. I guess those guys are terrible players as well.


You want to know why? Because both have a track record of checking the best players in the game for throughout their career. Trae Young has been ducking guys in the league since day 1. He never guards his position. And if you think that doesn't play a role in the overall evaluation of him you're wrong.

Players notice it and so do those responsible for evaluating him as a player. And his shitty defense is one of the reasons that Atlanta will never go anywhere as a team.


Leonard and George have a track record of checking the best players in the game yet in the playoffs when matched up against one of the best players in the game they both ducked him and instead had Marcus Morris check Doncic all game. :lol: :lol:

Hawks are a much better team with Trae on the court than without so obviously his shitty defense isn't one of the reasons ATL will never go anywhere. And they almost went to the NBA finals last season with Trae leading the way so your argument carries no weight. A fluke injury to Trae is the only reason we aren't talking about how he did in the NBA finals right now.

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The East suddenly got tough. Bulls and Cavs are good. Charlotte and Washington aren't garbage. The Knicks and Pacers especially got hard hit with the new dynamic. I don't know about the Hawks. They can't stay healthy.


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Nardi wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
shakes wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The immortal Trae Young last seen ducking the legendary Cole Anthony.


LTG with his strangest hill to die on yet. Trying to argue that Trae is lesser because he doesn't guard the other team's best guard. Meanwhile, there might be 2 top guards in the league that attempt to guard Trae. Yet LTG wants to single out Trae for this league wide and sport wide tendency.

meanwhile, in that same game Cole Anthony ducked Trae.



No one remind LTG how both Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both ducked Luka Doncic in the playoffs. I guess those guys are terrible players as well.


You want to know why? Because both have a track record of checking the best players in the game for throughout their career. Trae Young has been ducking guys in the league since day 1. He never guards his position. And if you think that doesn't play a role in the overall evaluation of him you're wrong.

Players notice it and so do those responsible for evaluating him as a player. And his shitty defense is one of the reasons that Atlanta will never go anywhere as a team.

It pisses me off that the Real Plus/Minus stats don't come out until like 40 games in. From watching Trae so far, I don't think he's budged from the 14th he was last year. He can get you back into a game but he can 30 foot you and TO you out of a game. He's a little better defensively. Mostly because he's getting a couple more rebounds per game.

That being said, he could win you a playoff series. He's one of a handful.


Hawks are the 1st or second leading team in the league in fewest turnovers with Trae being by far the primary ball handler...so saying he can TO them out of a game is highly inaccurate.



Go look at the PER rankings this year. Here is this year's top 10 PER for players who start.

1. Jokic
2. Giannis
3. Butler
4. Embiid
5. Gobert
6. TRAE YOUNG
7. Durant
8. Ja
9. jaret Allen
10. Anthony Davis
11. Steph


Only thing stopping Trae from being a shoe in for 1st or 2nd team all NBA is team record. If that goes up he will be named all NBA and LTG will have to go even deeper into the well to find a reason to knock him.

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Leonard and George have a track record of checking the best players in the game yet in the playoffs when matched up against one of the best players in the game they both ducked him and instead had Marcus Morris check Doncic all game. :lol: :lol:

Hawks are a much better team with Trae on the court than without so obviously his shitty defense isn't one of the reasons ATL will never go anywhere. And they almost went to the NBA finals last season with Trae leading the way so your argument carries no weight. A fluke injury to Trae is the only reason we aren't talking about how he did in the NBA finals right now.


Kawhi Leonard actually did check Doncic. Kawhi Leonard has checked the Durants and James's of the world throughout his career. WHo has Trae ever checked? At any time? Anywhere?


And Shakes you have a convenient excuse everytime Atlanta loses. They were never going to beat Milwaukee. And they ran that same squad back and they aren't going to make the playoffs. And that is with Trae playing in every game this season. They beat a mediocre Knicks squad and upset my squad in a series they were never supposed to win. They are about to miss the playoffs for the 3rd time in 4 seasons with him as a pro yet somehow you think that he is a guy that you can ride to the promise land for some reason.

The only reason that I continue to talk about him is that you have now taken to placing him the category of the "all time greats". Based on what exactly? Inflated stats? Stats which are inflated to the point that even garbage players like Cole Anthony and Collin Sexton can get you 20+ per night? You have to show a little more than that if you wish to place him the class of guys like CP3 and Zeke. Stats today are mostly the product of higher usage rates and greater levels of freedom allowed on the perimeter. Not to mention a product of guys that are allowed to hide on defense. It makes the game a helluva easier to play when you don't have to guard a guy that can come back at you on defense. A helluva lot easier. This is the case whether you are playing pick up ball or in the NBA.

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The East suddenly got tough. Bulls and Cavs are good. Charlotte and Washington aren't garbage. The Knicks and Pacers especially got hard hit with the new dynamic. I don't know about the Hawks. They can't stay healthy.


Their top 3 guys have been healthy all season. They have been hit by injuries to rotation guys but if your top 3 guys are there and Trae is that dude they should be able to withstand it. Every team has been hit by injuries.

The Hawks have quite a few problems. Namely their top guy ain't all that good. Definitely not as good as Shakes keeps pumping him out to be. Look at his advanced stats and compare them to those of Chris Paul at similar stages of their career. It isn't that Paul is simply better. We know that. He blows Trae out of the water. Its not even close yet Shakes comes here day after day speaking as if Trae is in that class of player. You don't even have to go Paul. You can go elsewhere and you will see that he comes up short in most cases.

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shakes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
shakes wrote:
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The immortal Trae Young last seen ducking the legendary Cole Anthony.


LTG with his strangest hill to die on yet. Trying to argue that Trae is lesser because he doesn't guard the other team's best guard. Meanwhile, there might be 2 top guards in the league that attempt to guard Trae. Yet LTG wants to single out Trae for this league wide and sport wide tendency.

meanwhile, in that same game Cole Anthony ducked Trae.



No one remind LTG how both Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both ducked Luka Doncic in the playoffs. I guess those guys are terrible players as well.


You want to know why? Because both have a track record of checking the best players in the game for throughout their career. Trae Young has been ducking guys in the league since day 1. He never guards his position. And if you think that doesn't play a role in the overall evaluation of him you're wrong.

Players notice it and so do those responsible for evaluating him as a player. And his shitty defense is one of the reasons that Atlanta will never go anywhere as a team.

It pisses me off that the Real Plus/Minus stats don't come out until like 40 games in. From watching Trae so far, I don't think he's budged from the 14th he was last year. He can get you back into a game but he can 30 foot you and TO you out of a game. He's a little better defensively. Mostly because he's getting a couple more rebounds per game.

That being said, he could win you a playoff series. He's one of a handful.


Hawks are the 1st or second leading team in the league in fewest turnovers with Trae being by far the primary ball handler...so saying he can TO them out of a game is highly inaccurate.



Go look at the PER rankings this year. Here is this year's top 10 PER for players who start.

1. Jokic
2. Giannis
3. Butler
4. Embiid
5. Gobert
6. TRAE YOUNG
7. Durant
8. Ja
9. jaret Allen
10. Anthony Davis
11. Steph


Only thing stopping Trae from being a shoe in for 1st or 2nd team all NBA is team record. If that goes up he will be named all NBA and LTG will have to go even deeper into the well to find a reason to knock him.

Trae is a top 5 playmaker. No doubt about it. But he does some boneheaded shit. A lot of it.


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Who might Collins be referencing here?

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“I’m sorry,” Collins said mid-answer after the Hawks blew a 19-point lead in a 132-126 loss to the Rockets on Monday night. “I’m at a loss for words, really. It’s frustrating.”

It wasn’t Houston doing one particular thing that helped it outscore the Hawks 44-25 in the fourth quarter of another late-game collapse, Collins said — the Hawks needed to guard. They needed to take smart shots. They needed to stop turning the ball over. But that’s beating a dead horse, he added, having said the same thing for weeks, and even dating to the first half of last season, as the Hawks struggled with the same issue of closing games and hang onto leads.

The manner in which the Hawks are losing amplifies the frustration even more.

“I would much rather lose a different way than for us to just … just keep giving the game away,” Collins said. “I feel like that’s what we’re doing. We’re not getting beat.”



Or here?

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Diagnosing the issues on offense, as Collins alluded to, the Hawks are often rushing shots in the fourth, going for home runs instead of making the defense work and wearing opponents out. Instead, they need to slow down, understand what the game scenario requires of them and execute it with some intentionality, to paraphrase Collins.

Essentially, making the right play at the right moment.


“It’s just really a matter of understanding the moment and valuing what the fourth quarter is, valuing that guys are playing harder, valuing the moment, the importance of the moment,” Collins said. “I feel like that’s where we’re not there yet completely, understanding what is needed in each moment. And I feel like it’s making it harder for us to execute down the stretch. We’ve got to be more aware. … Like I said, beating a dead horse.”

That decision-making hurts them on defense, and defensive issues are the main culprit. The Hawks have shown they can score (overall, they own the No. 2 offensive rating at 113.1) and set themselves up for success; now it’s a matter of finishing the job and not letting opponents make late runs.


All of that is an indictment on Trae Young. And it is his fellow teammate that happens to be indicting him.

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Who might Collins be referencing here?

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“I’m sorry,” Collins said mid-answer after the Hawks blew a 19-point lead in a 132-126 loss to the Rockets on Monday night. “I’m at a loss for words, really. It’s frustrating.”

It wasn’t Houston doing one particular thing that helped it outscore the Hawks 44-25 in the fourth quarter of another late-game collapse, Collins said — the Hawks needed to guard. They needed to take smart shots. They needed to stop turning the ball over. But that’s beating a dead horse, he added, having said the same thing for weeks, and even dating to the first half of last season, as the Hawks struggled with the same issue of closing games and hang onto leads.

The manner in which the Hawks are losing amplifies the frustration even more.

“I would much rather lose a different way than for us to just … just keep giving the game away,” Collins said. “I feel like that’s what we’re doing. We’re not getting beat.”



Or here?

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Diagnosing the issues on offense, as Collins alluded to, the Hawks are often rushing shots in the fourth, going for home runs instead of making the defense work and wearing opponents out. Instead, they need to slow down, understand what the game scenario requires of them and execute it with some intentionality, to paraphrase Collins.

Essentially, making the right play at the right moment.


“It’s just really a matter of understanding the moment and valuing what the fourth quarter is, valuing that guys are playing harder, valuing the moment, the importance of the moment,” Collins said. “I feel like that’s where we’re not there yet completely, understanding what is needed in each moment. And I feel like it’s making it harder for us to execute down the stretch. We’ve got to be more aware. … Like I said, beating a dead horse.”

That decision-making hurts them on defense, and defensive issues are the main culprit. The Hawks have shown they can score (overall, they own the No. 2 offensive rating at 113.1) and set themselves up for success; now it’s a matter of finishing the job and not letting opponents make late runs.


All of that is an indictment on Trae Young. And it is his fellow teammate that happens to be indicting him.



:roll: yea, I'm quite positive he is not talking about the guy who just went for 41 and 9 on 14/22 shooting and was one of 3 players with a positive +/-. Nice try dumbass.

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Nardi wrote:
shakes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
shakes wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The immortal Trae Young last seen ducking the legendary Cole Anthony.


LTG with his strangest hill to die on yet. Trying to argue that Trae is lesser because he doesn't guard the other team's best guard. Meanwhile, there might be 2 top guards in the league that attempt to guard Trae. Yet LTG wants to single out Trae for this league wide and sport wide tendency.

meanwhile, in that same game Cole Anthony ducked Trae.



No one remind LTG how both Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both ducked Luka Doncic in the playoffs. I guess those guys are terrible players as well.


You want to know why? Because both have a track record of checking the best players in the game for throughout their career. Trae Young has been ducking guys in the league since day 1. He never guards his position. And if you think that doesn't play a role in the overall evaluation of him you're wrong.

Players notice it and so do those responsible for evaluating him as a player. And his shitty defense is one of the reasons that Atlanta will never go anywhere as a team.

It pisses me off that the Real Plus/Minus stats don't come out until like 40 games in. From watching Trae so far, I don't think he's budged from the 14th he was last year. He can get you back into a game but he can 30 foot you and TO you out of a game. He's a little better defensively. Mostly because he's getting a couple more rebounds per game.

That being said, he could win you a playoff series. He's one of a handful.


Hawks are the 1st or second leading team in the league in fewest turnovers with Trae being by far the primary ball handler...so saying he can TO them out of a game is highly inaccurate.



Go look at the PER rankings this year. Here is this year's top 10 PER for players who start.

1. Jokic
2. Giannis
3. Butler
4. Embiid
5. Gobert
6. TRAE YOUNG
7. Durant
8. Ja
9. jaret Allen
10. Anthony Davis
11. Steph


Only thing stopping Trae from being a shoe in for 1st or 2nd team all NBA is team record. If that goes up he will be named all NBA and LTG will have to go even deeper into the well to find a reason to knock him.

Trae is a top 5 playmaker. No doubt about it. But he does some boneheaded shit. A lot of it.


If he did a lot of bonehead shit he wouldn't be top 6 in PER and ahead of guys like Durant and Curry.

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shakes wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
Who might Collins be referencing here?

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“I’m sorry,” Collins said mid-answer after the Hawks blew a 19-point lead in a 132-126 loss to the Rockets on Monday night. “I’m at a loss for words, really. It’s frustrating.”

It wasn’t Houston doing one particular thing that helped it outscore the Hawks 44-25 in the fourth quarter of another late-game collapse, Collins said — the Hawks needed to guard. They needed to take smart shots. They needed to stop turning the ball over. But that’s beating a dead horse, he added, having said the same thing for weeks, and even dating to the first half of last season, as the Hawks struggled with the same issue of closing games and hang onto leads.

The manner in which the Hawks are losing amplifies the frustration even more.

“I would much rather lose a different way than for us to just … just keep giving the game away,” Collins said. “I feel like that’s what we’re doing. We’re not getting beat.”



Or here?

Quote:
Diagnosing the issues on offense, as Collins alluded to, the Hawks are often rushing shots in the fourth, going for home runs instead of making the defense work and wearing opponents out. Instead, they need to slow down, understand what the game scenario requires of them and execute it with some intentionality, to paraphrase Collins.

Essentially, making the right play at the right moment.


“It’s just really a matter of understanding the moment and valuing what the fourth quarter is, valuing that guys are playing harder, valuing the moment, the importance of the moment,” Collins said. “I feel like that’s where we’re not there yet completely, understanding what is needed in each moment. And I feel like it’s making it harder for us to execute down the stretch. We’ve got to be more aware. … Like I said, beating a dead horse.”

That decision-making hurts them on defense, and defensive issues are the main culprit. The Hawks have shown they can score (overall, they own the No. 2 offensive rating at 113.1) and set themselves up for success; now it’s a matter of finishing the job and not letting opponents make late runs.


All of that is an indictment on Trae Young. And it is his fellow teammate that happens to be indicting him.



:roll: yea, I'm quite positive he is not talking about the guy who just went for 41 and 9 on 14/22 shooting and was one of 3 players with a positive +/-. Nice try dumbass.


Oh no he definitely couldn't be talking about Trae when it comes to defense, turnovers, and bad shots. Silly me for ever believing that he was. :lol: :lol:

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Who might Collins be referencing here?

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“I’m sorry,” Collins said mid-answer after the Hawks blew a 19-point lead in a 132-126 loss to the Rockets on Monday night. “I’m at a loss for words, really. It’s frustrating.”

It wasn’t Houston doing one particular thing that helped it outscore the Hawks 44-25 in the fourth quarter of another late-game collapse, Collins said — the Hawks needed to guard. They needed to take smart shots. They needed to stop turning the ball over. But that’s beating a dead horse, he added, having said the same thing for weeks, and even dating to the first half of last season, as the Hawks struggled with the same issue of closing games and hang onto leads.

The manner in which the Hawks are losing amplifies the frustration even more.

“I would much rather lose a different way than for us to just … just keep giving the game away,” Collins said. “I feel like that’s what we’re doing. We’re not getting beat.”



Or here?

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Diagnosing the issues on offense, as Collins alluded to, the Hawks are often rushing shots in the fourth, going for home runs instead of making the defense work and wearing opponents out. Instead, they need to slow down, understand what the game scenario requires of them and execute it with some intentionality, to paraphrase Collins.

Essentially, making the right play at the right moment.


“It’s just really a matter of understanding the moment and valuing what the fourth quarter is, valuing that guys are playing harder, valuing the moment, the importance of the moment,” Collins said. “I feel like that’s where we’re not there yet completely, understanding what is needed in each moment. And I feel like it’s making it harder for us to execute down the stretch. We’ve got to be more aware. … Like I said, beating a dead horse.”

That decision-making hurts them on defense, and defensive issues are the main culprit. The Hawks have shown they can score (overall, they own the No. 2 offensive rating at 113.1) and set themselves up for success; now it’s a matter of finishing the job and not letting opponents make late runs.


All of that is an indictment on Trae Young. And it is his fellow teammate that happens to be indicting him.



:roll: yea, I'm quite positive he is not talking about the guy who just went for 41 and 9 on 14/22 shooting and was one of 3 players with a positive +/-. Nice try dumbass.


Oh no he definitely couldn't be talking about Trae when it comes to defense, turnovers, and bad shots. Silly me for ever believing that he was. :lol: :lol:


14/22 and 9 assists. Carried the team as the only player who showed up that game.

But go ahead and keep spinning. Too bad this board won't be around when Trae gets inducted into the HOF. Would love to see the avatar bet on that one.

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If he did a lot of bonehead shit he wouldn't be top 6 in PER and ahead of guys like Durant and Curry.

If PER is your Ten Commandments. Listen, as far as I'm concerned, he's 5 IQ points away from being a top 2 PG. And it's pretty simple. Play some John Paxson defense, quit shooting 30 footers, be a touch more conservative with the ball and a lead in the 4th quarter. All fucking doable, right now.


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If he did a lot of bonehead shit he wouldn't be top 6 in PER and ahead of guys like Durant and Curry.

If PER is your Ten Commandments. Listen, as far as I'm concerned, he's 5 IQ points away from being a top 2 PG. And it's pretty simple. Play some John Paxson defense, quit shooting 30 footers, be a touch more conservative with the ball and a lead in the 4th quarter. All fucking doable, right now.


PER seems to be the stat most recognized as legit, but in general I'm not a stat guy.

Can't argue with what you said...those are the things that bother me as well about his game.

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14/22 and 9 assists. Carried the team as the only player who showed up that game.

But go ahead and keep spinning. Too bad this board won't be around when Trae gets inducted into the HOF. Would love to see the avatar bet on that one.


He ain't making the HOF. Got to make an Olympic first. He is a modern day Michael Adams. If you place 36 year old Chris Paul on this same squad they'd be top 3 in the conference right now. That is what "impact" looks like.

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14/22 and 9 assists. Carried the team as the only player who showed up that game.

But go ahead and keep spinning. Too bad this board won't be around when Trae gets inducted into the HOF. Would love to see the avatar bet on that one.


He ain't making the HOF. Got to make an Olympic first. He is a modern day Michael Adams. If you place 36 year old Chris Paul on this same squad they'd be top 3 in the conference right now. That is what "impact" looks like.



He is 100% making the HOF. He's on the "shoe in" trajectory so far.

No requirement that he be selected for the old boys network Olympic team. He won't have to fight the great Derrick White for a spot in the Hall.

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14/22 and 9 assists. Carried the team as the only player who showed up that game.

But go ahead and keep spinning. Too bad this board won't be around when Trae gets inducted into the HOF. Would love to see the avatar bet on that one.


He ain't making the HOF. Got to make an Olympic first. He is a modern day Michael Adams. If you place 36 year old Chris Paul on this same squad they'd be top 3 in the conference right now. That is what "impact" looks like.


Someone better tell Steph Curry he isn't making the HOF :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hall of Fame? :lol: :lol: :lol: Trae Young has every bit the look of a stat stuffing loser!

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Michael Adams is an interesting comp



only Michael Adams story I or probably anyone else on the board has: Buddies of mine were at a Bulls game years ago and had good seats near where the players exited to the locker rooms. Michael Adams was on the other team. He was exiting the court and some Bulls fan started heckling him and calling him short. Adams looks at the guy with a big smile on his face and politely yells out, "Thanks, I make a lot more money than you" and then strolls off into the tunnel.

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killing it this season. A season where everyone said he would struggle with the refs. Even LTG running out of excuses these days.

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