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Talked to my surgeon today and got my final pathology report. My Gleason score was unchanged at 3+4 (Here is a good explanation of the Gleason score if you don't know what it is https://www.pcf.org/about-prostate-cancer/diagnosis-staging-prostate-cancer/gleason-score-isup-grade/ and the cancer did not break outside of the prostate so it looks like he got it all with the surgery. Will know for sure in three weeks when I get my PSA tested but on the surface, looks promising.


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a couple three years ago I had to run bunch of tests because my bladder felt like it had become the size of a pea. In the end my PSA was good, not even slightly elevated and my prostate "felt great" according to the urologist. I didn't think it felt great. Gave me some antibiotics as there was some sign of infection and something else and told me to drink a ton of water and it hasn't been a problem since.


Good to hear that, DS. Hope it stays that way for you. When I was living in Illinois, a couple times my PSA was higher than my normal (one time it was 7.7 or so), my urologist would prescribe antibiotics then have me get another PSA test. Both times it came back down to my normal.


Blood work was pre any treatments so it was good baseline. Its about time I head back for a more complete physical anyways though. Follow up was good too as the urologist wanted another test. I'd say thank god for insurance but I don't think I hit the deductible. That guy had terrific bedside manner. And huge knuckles and the touch of a brick layer.

I am lucky in having a good family history when it comes to cancer. high blood pressure and cardiac stuff not as lucky but so far so good there. But now that 50 is getting closer I know that is when my folks had to start dealing with issues so its only a matter of time so. My GP tells me I'm helpful but he is also the town Vet and the hardware store owner so you never know.


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Honestly I'm in the same boat as most guys, I hate going to the doctor. It's irrational, but it's something that has always bothered me to a great degree. And I have to do better.

Thanks for sharing Division and the best hopes for a full recovery. And to everyone here who has lost friends or family, I'm really sorry for your losses.


My dad died from it in 09 from Cancer of the bladder.. He swore me to secrecy when he was diagnosed. At the time they gave him 6 months to live. They advised him to have surgery and so he did. After he had surgery he found out that he didn't need to. After that he said screw you to the doctors and began crashing on a ton of holistic self help books and medicines. He also changed his diet and became a Vegetarian. It helped him tremendously. Instead of 6 months he lived another 6 years until he died in 09.
I won't say that I have a distrust of doctors. but I do always keep in the back of mind that they are in the "for profit" business too. And as the old saying goes "there isn't money to be made in the cure, there is money to be made in the treatment"


Sorry to hear about your dad, Link. Glad he got a lot more than the 6 months he was initially given.


Thanks. You will be good. Catching it early is the best thing.

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Can take up to 18 months to get to a point where a guy can have an erection, but outcomes vary depending on age, health, if you had ED prior to surgery, etc. They usually prescribe Viagra or Cialis and have patients use that to help. If that doesn't work, penile implants are a fairly routine surgery to help those who cannot get it up (less than 10% of patients need the implant). Boner on demand sounds pretty good at my age...

I'll check with my surgeon in three weeks but I'm ready to have a go of it and see what happens...




18 months without a boner? Fuck that noise, just kill me now doc. Although the penile implant sounds promising, that'd be like having a bionic dick. wonders of modern medicine. I'd do more porn if I had an inspector gadget bionic unit. maybe they could make it with different cycles, like spin, vibrate, pneumatically pump back and forth, etc.


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Can take up to 18 months to get to a point where a guy can have an erection, but outcomes vary depending on age, health, if you had ED prior to surgery, etc. They usually prescribe Viagra or Cialis and have patients use that to help. If that doesn't work, penile implants are a fairly routine surgery to help those who cannot get it up (less than 10% of patients need the implant). Boner on demand sounds pretty good at my age...

I'll check with my surgeon in three weeks but I'm ready to have a go of it and see what happens...




18 months without a boner? Fuck that noise, just kill me now doc. Although the penile implant sounds promising, that'd be like having a bionic dick. wonders of modern medicine. I'd do more porn if I had an inspector gadget bionic unit. maybe they could make it with different cycles, like spin, vibrate, pneumatically pump back and forth, etc.


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Honestly I'm in the same boat as most guys, I hate going to the doctor. It's irrational, but it's something that has always bothered me to a great degree. And I have to do better.

Thanks for sharing Division and the best hopes for a full recovery. And to everyone here who has lost friends or family, I'm really sorry for your losses.


My dad died from it in 09 from Cancer of the bladder.. He swore me to secrecy when he was diagnosed. At the time they gave him 6 months to live. They advised him to have surgery and so he did. After he had surgery he found out that he didn't need to. After that he said screw you to the doctors and began crashing on a ton of holistic self help books and medicines. He also changed his diet and became a Vegetarian. It helped him tremendously. Instead of 6 months he lived another 6 years until he died in 09.
I won't say that I have a distrust of doctors. but I do always keep in the back of mind that they are in the "for profit" business too. And as the old saying goes "there isn't money to be made in the cure, there is money to be made in the treatment"


Sorry to hear about your dad, Link. Glad he got a lot more than the 6 months he was initially given.


Thanks. You will be good. Catching it early is the best thing.


No doubt about that!


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Praying for the good outcome, D.

For the others who may be on the fence about the exam, I will be 62 next month and have gotten in the good habit of getting an annual every October. For me the prostate exam is something I have gotten used to. It only takes a few moments, it does not hurt, and it seems my doc gets more nervous about it than I do.

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Praying for the good outcome, D.

For the others who may be on the fence about the exam, I will be 62 next month and have gotten in the good habit of getting an annual every October. For me the prostate exam is something I have gotten used to. It only takes a few moments, it does not hurt, and it seems my doc gets more nervous about it than I do.


Thanks and good on you to make it a routine!

My wife went with me when I talked to my surgeon. As we were talking, he asked if he could examine me and I said sure. So, my wife leaves and I’m out the door in about 20 seconds and she says, “that was quick!” and I responded with “what did you think was going to happen?” Of course, she didn’t know and so I explained what a DRE consists of.


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I semi know my gp on a social level. He was like “Drunk, believe me that it’s as awkward for me as it is for you.”


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At what age do men need to be tested? I thought it was 45 for white men and maybe 40 for black men.

What is the procedure for testing? Is it uncomfortable, etc.? How often do men need to be tested once we're at that point.

Normally, what are the types of symptoms men should be looking out for?


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At what age do men need to be tested? I thought it was 45 for white men and maybe 40 for black men.

What is the procedure for testing? Is it uncomfortable, etc.? How often do men need to be tested once we're at that point.

Normally, what are the types of symptoms men should be looking out for?


I get a yearly blood test at my physical and mine is checked that way.

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At what age do men need to be tested? I thought it was 45 for white men and maybe 40 for black men.

What is the procedure for testing? Is it uncomfortable, etc.? How often do men need to be tested once we're at that point.

Normally, what are the types of symptoms men should be looking out for?


I think the age you start to get tested depends on your family history. If you have a history of prostate cancer in your family, earlier is better. PSA is just a blood test as Seacrest said. Your PCP/GP may do a DRE as well, which while not the most fun, isn't that bad and takes about 5 seconds. As Drunk Squirrel said, doctors don't like to do it any more than we like getting it done.

Regarding symptoms, found this:

Most prostate cancers are found early, through screening. Early prostate cancer usually causes no symptoms. More advanced prostate cancers can sometimes cause symptoms, such as:

Problems urinating, including a slow or weak urinary stream or the need to urinate more often, especially at night
Blood in the urine or semen
Trouble getting an erection (erectile dysfunction or ED)
Pain in the hips, back (spine), chest (ribs), or other areas from cancer that has spread to bones
Weakness or numbness in the legs or feet, or even loss of bladder or bowel control from cancer pressing on the spinal cord
Most of these problems are more likely to be caused by something other than prostate cancer. For example, trouble urinating is much more often caused by benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), a non-cancerous growth of the prostate. Still, it’s important to tell your health care provider if you have any of these symptoms so that the cause can be found and treated, if needed. Some men might need more tests to check for prostate cancer.

For me, I started with enlarged prostate which made urination difficult and I got up a lot during the night but I didn't have any specific pain or blood in semen or anything like that.


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Back in August I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Three weeks ago on December 8th, I had surgery to remove my prostate.

This place is nearly all dudes and of varying races and ages and we're all going to have to deal with our prostates sooner or later. I figured I would create a thread so if anyone had any questions about my journey through all of this, ask away and I'll be happy to share my experience. Or, if anyone else has had prostate issues and was willing to share, feel free to add on. Prostate cancer is something that is easily treated with a very high cure rate, provided it's caught before it starts spreading outside of the prostate.

If no interest, then this thread will drop by the wayside (but not the oasis) and we can go on with our lives. Get your PSA tested!


A while ago my uncle had same. They did not remove though they chose to use some sort of radioactive discs inserted. Was this discussed? Maybe it’s not done now?

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Good news, and good luck Division!


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Back in August I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Three weeks ago on December 8th, I had surgery to remove my prostate.

This place is nearly all dudes and of varying races and ages and we're all going to have to deal with our prostates sooner or later. I figured I would create a thread so if anyone had any questions about my journey through all of this, ask away and I'll be happy to share my experience. Or, if anyone else has had prostate issues and was willing to share, feel free to add on. Prostate cancer is something that is easily treated with a very high cure rate, provided it's caught before it starts spreading outside of the prostate.

If no interest, then this thread will drop by the wayside (but not the oasis) and we can go on with our lives. Get your PSA tested!


A while ago my uncle had same. They did not remove though they chose to use some sort of radioactive discs inserted. Was this discussed? Maybe it’s not done now?


How is your uncle doing?

The main treatments for guys my age are surgery and radiation. The radioactive discs/seeds are a subset of the normal radiation treatment. I could have used that but radiation tends to swell the prostate and with my already too large prostate, I most likely would have had to go on a full time catheter for the foreseeable future. Another issue with radiation is that it tends to hit other healthy tissues and that ends up making the whole area kind of "petrified". And if the radiation treatment does not work, they'd still have to try to remove the prostate and surgeons do not like to do that because it's like chipping a rock out of another rock. I almost certainly would lose the ability to get an erection normally (implant can take care of that) so all in all, for me, the best treatment was to remove.


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Got my PSA results after nearly 6 weeks after surgery. It was undetectable, which means that for now, surgery successfully removed the cancer. Now let's hope it stays this way.

Now, must deal with the other issues...


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My dad had it in 2017, he won't talk to me about any of it so I know nothing about it. I know they found it super early and he will be fine.

My father in law has it, it spread to his bones. We are probably 3 years or so in but he is starting to decline again. I think they are going to go with radiation now but I'm not sure why or how it works. I think the prognosis was 3-5 years. He is in a lot of pain.


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Division, good to hear!

Spaulding, sending good vibes.

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Good news Div, hope it continues to go well.

on a somewhat related note. We have to meet with our benefits company. They are pushing a cancer program for families. Looks to be about $40 a month for a family and they provide coverage for a whole number of treatments and such. Anyone gotten one of these? I hate spending more money a month, but I know one diagnosis can rock your world financially.

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My dad had it in 2017, he won't talk to me about any of it so I know nothing about it. I know they found it super early and he will be fine.

My father in law has it, it spread to his bones. We are probably 3 years or so in but he is starting to decline again. I think they are going to go with radiation now but I'm not sure why or how it works. I think the prognosis was 3-5 years. He is in a lot of pain.


Sorry to hear about your FIL. Yeah, when it gets outside of your prostate, that's when it can get real bad. I think the radiation probably is to kill as much as they can and hopefully make him as comfortable as possible. But that's just a guess, I'm not sure. I hope he can manage the pain as best he can.

Not sure why your dad won't talk about it to you. Sure, it can be embarrassing to discuss some of it, I suppose. But, I'm glad he's doing well.


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Division, good to hear!

Spaulding, sending good vibes.


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