Is this on a podcast somewhere on the website? I'd love to hear it

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It's popping up on second-tier blogs:

https://fansided.com/2022/01/07/bears-r ... imum-wage/

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Is there any way to lure the Cardinals back? How about the Rams or Chargers? LA doesn’t really want or deserve a team. Some good competition may be the only way they ever make any changes. This franchise sucks.

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Mulli is Howard Stern in his prime compared to Haugh.

They want/deserve the Rams, which St. Louis didn't. The Chargers should still be in San Diego.

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That looks like a hub arkush identity crisis.

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There is a palpable lack of leadership within the organization and that starts with George, but is incredibly evident in the way Pace has completely and utterly mishandled Nagy.

It became painfully evident that Nagy was not only inept as a play caller, but oddly stubborn and either unwilling or unable to put together a cogent game plan, strangely abandoning the running game during games for no apparent reason. When Nagy finally agreed to let someone else run plays the offense improved slightly and was at least a bit more balanced, but instead of acknowledging and obvious finding the team went right back to letting Nagy call plays which resulted in the team being dead last in the NFL offensively, it would have seemed that Pace would have recognized this and made sure Nagy never called a play again, but instead he doubled down on stupity.

Would get into drafting and pro player evaluation, but not sure how anyone can argue with his inability to build an offensive roster. Whiffing on skill position players over and over again early in the draft, his successful picks are at best replacement level, no superstars of the offense, many of his early picks are no longer with the team and are backups at best elsewhere.

He must be really good at fetching coffee for George, but not sure what he really would be good at other than being a social media influencer for the upcoming "Bear Hair", team sponsored men's hair product line.

I hope the reports are wrong. There is nothing Pace has done that has shown he should be allowed to continue with this team in almost any capacity. He has failed at multiple levels of his current jobs responsibilities, what from those failures points to him being deserving of any reward with this organization?


This is so damn frustrating. They just can’t get anything entirely right. Doing something like this also all but guarantees that the Bears will not land a proven and well known commodity like a Jim Harbaugh. I mean maybe they still could, but it becomes far less likely as anyone of that quality will have their own vision and would want complete freedom to try and create it. Being told you have to keep certain things in place doesn’t jive with that.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Even the Mack trade, which was once held as a high water mark moment for Pace.. has seemingly regressed into a cash strapped debacle for a mostly past his prime boat anchor.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

From his 1st ever pick coming pre injured and mostly never seeing the field.. to signing Gennon.. to trading up 1 spot when he most likely didn’t have to so he could draft the wrong QB (when the very experienced veteran HC at the time Fox was pounding the table for Watson or Mahomes) to hiring Nagy (who never spent even a whole season as a coordinator) to develop said young QB who he all but admitted in an interview with the press that he didn’t like, to never winning a playoff game in 7 years under 2 different head coaches -that he got to choose.. yeah..

Pace is a shit show. A dumpster fire spinning infinitely inside a vortex of horsecrap permanently residing in football hell. So, let’s promote him

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People rightfully focus on Pace's abysmal record, but another less-talked about issue with retaining him is that there is zero chance he would consider cutting bait with Fields in the next several years. I'm not saying I want Fields run out of town after his bad rookie year, but I want a new GM to do his own evaluation and be allowed to consider the possibility of trading him for an established stud like Russell Wilson or, heaven forbid, Aaron Rodgers (however unlikely). I would hope that if Pace is gone, the new GM would be given full latitude to make such a deal, and that George wouldn't force Fields on him. Maybe it works out and Fields is the guy everyone hoped for, but I don't have any confidence that Pace would pull the plug even if everyone else saw he was not going to be special...like with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

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I agree with the 1st part of what you’re saying but I’m not totally on board with the trade idea -mainly due to the age of the QB’s you’re talking about Vs how many other things on this roster need to be fixed as well. That’s not happening in just 1 season. This team needs to be rebuilt and it’s better to start out with younger players in doing that. This means trading away some of your older assets like Mack (who I still argue should have been traded last year when his value was still quite high)..


Look, Rodgers can carry a team, no argument there. But historically with older QB’s the drop off is pretty sudden when it does actually happen.. and Rodgers is getting up there in age. Assuming he’s Brady 2.0 is a helluva gamble and I think this team needs at least 2 more years of a good rebuild to be SB ready. You grab a guy like Rodgers -yeah you’ll be in the playoffs, but with this roster it will be tough to advance. So now you’re going to the playoffs every year, most likely getting knocked out early -while also diminishing your draft position every year making it harder to build the team that already needs rebuilding. It’s football hell like the Bulls were in basketball hell during the Rose years.


Right now, the best idea is to blow it up. Get rid of Pace, Nagy, and trade what few aging assets you have for what you can get (like Mack or Quinn for example). Let the next regime come in here and start from scratch and build it from top to bottom the right way.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

It's arguably the worst decision he's made after passing up on his 2nd choice (Mahomes) in favor of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

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There’s zero argument that the (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky draft was his worst decision.

There may be argument that there was a worse decision in nfl history, but I’m not aware of a compelling case that Pace doesn’t take the gold on that front.

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Still maintaining that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is the biggest bust in Chicago bears history.

#2 overall pick at the most important position and doesn't get invited back after his rookie deal expires.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Maybe Ryan Leaf?

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Maybe. I’d argue circumstances make (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky the worse pick.

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I still believe that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky can be a good starting quarterback, but Mahomes is a generational talent. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is nowhere near being the biggest bust in Bears or NFL history. That's laughable on so many levels.

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9 teams passed on Mahomes.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

After watching what is essential NFL garbage time for the last few weeks it is fairly obvious that Mitch would have been a significantly better option for the several teams, if he is smart and signs with the right team he likely gets at worst significant playing time next year.

That said, really thought Watson was the guy they should have taken and could have maybe traded down and picked up picks which was what I was hoping. Giving Glennon all that paper and handing him the starting job was one of the more bizarre moves made by a GM in recent history, but was an early indicator of Pace's inabilities to scout offensive talent, especially at the QB, TE, and WR positions. It is amazing that he was given a second shot at drafting a QB given his complete and utter failures.

The Bears are the only organization that would give any thought to retaining him let alone promoting him.

Kind of low on data here. Why don't you think he's the biggest Bears bust? This suggests you're fine with a #2 pick at QB flaming out before his rookie deal even expires. Your opinion on him becoming "a good starting QB" is contradicted by the fact that actual NFL teams thought differently, as we saw last year. Here are the QBs NFL teams thought were better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky:

Sam Darnold
Teddy Bridgewater
Drew Lock
Cam Newton
Taysom Hill
Whoever the hell is on Houston
Daniel Jones
Ryan Fitzpatrick

Not sure in what world the #2 pick who can't differentiate himself from the sure-fire HOF QBs above isn't considered a bust.

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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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He made a pro bowl and statistically, he's a top 2 or so QB in Bears history when it comes to production and efficiency. He did all of this with Nagy calling plays. In fact, no other quarterback (including Fields) has performed anywhere near the level (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky did in Nagy's offense. Just because Mahomes is a HoF quarterback doesn't make him the biggest bust in Bears or NFL history.

The media and fans believed that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was the problem. Now, it should be clear to everyone that Nagy was the primary problem. Besides, there is no objective person who could look around the league and say that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky wouldn't have been the best quarterback on about 10 teams in the league. He'll get another opportunity this offseason.

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It is unfortunate for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky that he gets downgraded in part due to the success of Mahomes and Watson (and the stupidity of Pace trading up), while conversely, Fields gets a pass due to the overall suckage of this year's rookie class (and the perceived shrewdness of Pace trading up).

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Who's downgrading (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky because of others? At #2 you expect a star. Not a backup by his 5th year.

I'd slow down on Fields. He's played 6 or 7 games...

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I guess what I'm trying to say is that if the situations were reversed (Fields drafted in (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's class and vice versa), after their rookie year we'd have said Fields was clearly the wrong pick and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was promising.

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I think pretty much everyone did. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was run out of town after Mahomes 5th start. It was clear that they got it wrong in a major way.

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He had a far better rookie year with absolute bums around him.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was hammered because he was an unknown in college and because Mahomes and Watson had success immediately. Fields gets a pass because people loved him in college, his class has been bad and he's our first black quarterback in a long time.

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I get you but I still think you're assuming field's suckage is confirmed. If (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had the same exact year fields had this year I think we'd be disappointed but still generally the rookie year is the grace period.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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But even if mahomes didn't exist the correct call is still to say (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was a bust at #2.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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What's a pass after a rookie year? You have to be more transparent about your standards otherwise it just seems like you're being unreasonable about a rookie. Trust me, speaking for myself only I guess, I am more than willing to apply the same bust label to Fields as I did to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, and the fact that fields was beloved in college or is African American doesn't matter at all. My own personal deadline for that kind of label is 25-ish starts. I think to start throwing that label around after 6 or 7 scattered starts or whatever is unreasonable.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY