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Glad you think today was a victory for the Stafford backers


He has had a good season, much better than Goff

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Well, he's on a much, much better team than Goff. And the Rams and Lions are both about what they were last year.

The Rams are a better team this year with a worse defense.

I don't think there's much of a difference between 11-5 and 10-6. I'm comfortable saying that's the same quality of team.

Defense is a little easier to play when your QB doesn't lead the NFL in pick sixes.

How does throwing a pick six hurt the defense?

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Is that a serious question?

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It really would be a best case scenario for Bears fans.

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God that's sad


I think there's already light at the end of the tunnel for Bears fan since the end of Rodgers is near, and there is no one to replace him. If Fields sucks we can at least look forward to an equally, if not more, sucky Jordan Love steering the Packers into mediocrity or worse for the next 3-4 years. Get ready, FF. It's coming.

You're presuming the ownership, top leaderships of the franchises are equally competent, when all evidence indicates they are at complete opposite ends of the spectrum.


It's hard to see how you're going to score another top-flight QB when you consistently pick in the mid 20s and 30s. You traded for Favre and lucked into Rodgers. Favre was a good trade while backing into Rodgers was pure luck.

It wasn't luck backing into Rodgers. It was the same reason they picked Love - GB values QB as much as it should be valued. If your team valued the position as much as GB did, maybe you would have seen a halfway decent Bears QB already in your life.

But by all means, keep thinking a team run by George McCaskey and Ted Phillips will have equal success to one run by Mark Murphy, Brian Gutekunst, and Matt LeFleur. Good luck with that prediction.

This is all true - especially the Rodgers part. They picked him despite having a HOF QB in place that had stayed healthy and had no intention of retiring (at that time).

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Glad you think today was a victory for the Stafford backers


He has had a good season, much better than Goff

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Well, he's on a much, much better team than Goff. And the Rams and Lions are both about what they were last year.

The Rams are a better team this year with a worse defense.


Yup..best D in the league last year to garbage..yet a better team and record.. scoring is way up.

Look what Burrow did to that Ravens team. Now look what Stafford did against the exact same team.

That “garbage” D won that game yesterday while Stafford tried his best to give it away. Unlike the Titans, Packers, and 49ers games Baltimore was too short handed to take advantage.

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Is that a serious question?

Yes.

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Is that a serious question?

Yes.

Is it easier to play offense with a lead or from behind? Now how about defense?

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Is that a serious question?

Yes.

Is it easier to play offense with a lead or from behind? Now how about defense?

You could make that argument about a lot of bad plays and coaching moves in most any game. He’s thrown 4 picks sixes in 16 games. That’s certainly nothing to be happy about but I wouldn’t use that as an excuse for a defensive drop-off. That seems a bit of a stretch. Beyond that your argument about playing from behind is hard to make when the Rams went from 22nd in the league in ppg in 2020 to 9th this year. In fact I’d go one further and say that the defensive players would rather have Stafford out there than Mr. 3 & out Goff by a large margin.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Is that a serious question?

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Is it easier to play offense with a lead or from behind? Now how about defense?

You could make that argument about a lot of bad plays and coaching moves in most any game. He’s thrown 4 picks sixes in 16 games. That’s certainly nothing to be happy about but I wouldn’t use that as an excuse for a defensive drop-off. That seems a bit of a stretch. Beyond that your argument about playing from behind is hard to make when the Rams went from 22nd in the league in ppg in 2020 to 9th this year. In fact I’d go one further and say that the defensive players would rather have Stafford out there than Mr. 3 & out Goff by a large margin.

A lot of those defensive guys were there in 2018 too. Im not sure they are as impressed with Stafford as you are.

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First time I watched the Rams. Have heard how great they are on Defense and how Stafford will get them to the SB.

Bullshit. Guy sucks. He knows one thing : how to lose - learned from all those years w/ the Lions.


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Way outperformed your boy Kyler Murray tonight.

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Lions fans recognize Stafford duffing it against good teams/in meaningful games, a lot like his high school teammate Clayton Kershaw.

A tradition unlike any other



Won his first playoff game in his first season outside of detroit. Had a nice gane too.

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kinda low bar to play better than Kyler did tonight. Kyler's reluctance to take off and run kills his
effectiveness. I think he ran twice for a handful of yards.

Good game planning by McVay to emphasize the run game more and only have Stafford go deep in a few select spots. I was sure Stafford was gonna pick six on that 4th quarter drive after the Cardinals kicked a FG. Stafford threw twice on that drive to put them in FG range. Fortunate the Rams didn't need a TD there. McVay called a couple of underneath plays to Kupp after decoying the defense deep and Cooper YAC'd most of the gain on those plays.

McVay baby'd Stafford to help him get his first playoff win. We'll see if the Rams can get away with limiting Stafford's throwing going forward in the playoffs. They'll have to take the training wheels off at some point and turn Stafford loose to make it through the next 2 rounds.


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LA Rams during the 2021 regular season:

Regular season passing attempts per game:

607 PATT /17 = 35.70 passing attempts per game regular season

Regular season rushing attempts per game:

420 / 17 = 24.70 rushing attempts per game regular season

regular season.

Playoffs:

Stafford pass att last night: 13/17 (-18.7)

Rushing attempts last night: 38 (+13.3)


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They were up 28 points in the first half . How much should they throw the ball after that ? Run the ball , eat clock . That’s not an indictment of Stafford .

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They were up 21 at the half.

During the regular season they were up 28-3 on the Giants at the half and smoked the Jaguars 37-7--Stafford still attempted 28 and 38 passes in those game.


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He's no Lamar Jackson, but Stafford looked good in a dominating performance.

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LA Rams during the 2021 regular season:

Regular season passing attempts per game:

607 PATT /17 = 35.70 passing attempts per game regular season

Regular season rushing attempts per game:

420 / 17 = 24.70 rushing attempts per game regular season

regular season.

Playoffs:

Stafford pass att last night: 13/17 (-18.7)

Rushing attempts last night: 38 (+13.3)

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Hussra wrote:
LA Rams during the 2021 regular season:

Regular season passing attempts per game:

607 PATT /17 = 35.70 passing attempts per game regular season

Regular season rushing attempts per game:

420 / 17 = 24.70 rushing attempts per game regular season

regular season.

Playoffs:

Stafford pass att last night: 13/17 (-18.7)

Rushing attempts last night: 38 (+13.3)

The Rams saw a weakness they could exploit and they did it for an easy playoff victory.

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Or they won in a way sufficient to beat a team that finished the regular season 1-4 (with a loss to the Lions in there) and whose QB threw 2 picks early on handing the game to the Rams.


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Lions fans recognize Stafford duffing it against good teams/in meaningful games, a lot like his high school teammate Clayton Kershaw.

A tradition unlike any other



Won his first playoff game in his first season outside of detroit. Had a nice gane too.

Jared Goff won a playoff game last year too, with a broken finger.

Stafford was fine last night in the Jimmy G/game manager role.

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Lions fans recognize Stafford duffing it against good teams/in meaningful games, a lot like his high school teammate Clayton Kershaw.

A tradition unlike any other



Won his first playoff game in his first season outside of detroit. Had a nice gane too.

Jared Goff won a playoff game last year too, with a broken finger.

Stafford was fine last night in the Jimmy G/game manager role.

Look....I think most of us can agree you were correct in the Stafford is not an elite QB. Many thought he would be better out of Detroit in a better team. He is better, but not "elite" better.

That being said....Stafford was not a game manager. He played well and got the win. He wasn't Rodgers, Brady, or Josh Allen, but he has proven to be a level above Cousins, Goff, Wentz. I'd also say he was better than Jimmy G.

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Florio and Simms starting their podcast today calling Stafford's game last night "the Jimmy G experience"...Simms: "the Rams just hope Stafford can be Jared Goff plus".


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Very interesting development in the Stafford debate. I didn't claim victory like 312player because the Rams didn't launch an aerial assault due to the game flow (17 passes). That being said, stafford dropped some dimes in that one can't help but appreciate. That's where the value is I suppose: he can lead while being ahead, sort of sustain a lead, but gets into decision making issues when he's forced to throw all the time. Like bigw says, that puts him ahead of the Cousins of the world at the very least. He might occupy on island of his own. Not cousins but not Rodgers either. Somewhere in between, and maybe again that's all by himself.

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My stance on here has always been the same. Stafford is better than Goff, but the gap is small enough to not be worth two 1st round picks. If they wanted to majorly upgrade at QB I don't think they accomplished that. He needs to do what Goff has never done for that team for the trade to end up working out for them. Nobody can honestly tell me the Rams would have lost that game last night with Goff instead of Stafford behind center.

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My stance on here has always been the same. Stafford is better than Goff, but the gap is small enough to not be worth two 1st round picks. If they wanted to majorly upgrade at QB I don't think they accomplished that. He needs to do what Goff has never done for that team for the trade to end up working out for them. Nobody can honestly tell me the Rams would have lost that game last night with Goff instead of Stafford behind center.

No one is declaring Stafford a hero because they won last night though.

Goff could have won that game though I think the Cardinals probably feared Stafford more than they would have Goff and the game plan may have been different.

I think it's pretty simple. If Stafford goes to Tampa this weekend and plays really well then it was a good trade. If Stafford doesn't play well and they lose then it was a bad trade. It won't be judged on a blowout playoff win where Stafford wasn't really needed.

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My stance on here has always been the same. Stafford is better than Goff, but the gap is small enough to not be worth two 1st round picks. If they wanted to majorly upgrade at QB I don't think they accomplished that. He needs to do what Goff has never done for that team for the trade to end up working out for them. Nobody can honestly tell me the Rams would have lost that game last night with Goff instead of Stafford behind center.

No one is declaring Stafford a hero because they won last night though.

Goff could have won that game though I think the Cardinals probably feared Stafford more than they would have Goff and the game plan may have been different.

I think it's pretty simple. If Stafford goes to Tampa this weekend and plays really well then it was a good trade. If Stafford doesn't play well and they lose then it was a bad trade. It won't be judged on a blowout playoff win where Stafford wasn't really needed.

I don't even think it's a bad trade if they lose to TB. Still have a shot next year or the year after to win the SB and redeem the trade.

If they beat TB it will be a step in the right direction, but Goff has made an NFC Championship game before also with the Rams.

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I don't even think it's a bad trade if they lose to TB. Still have a shot next year or the year after to win the SB and redeem the trade.

If they beat TB it will be a step in the right direction, but Goff has made an NFC Championship game before also with the Rams.
The clock is ticking though. They don't have picks in the first or second round and it will be a late round pick at that.

They could be another favorite next year though, especially if the Bucs and Packers implode in the offseason.

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Lions fans recognize Stafford duffing it against good teams/in meaningful games, a lot like his high school teammate Clayton Kershaw.

A tradition unlike any other



Won his first playoff game in his first season outside of detroit. Had a nice gane too.

Jared Goff won a playoff game last year too, with a broken finger.

Stafford was fine last night in the Jimmy G/game manager role.



Lol.. jimmy g sucks, goff had 1 td last year against seattle, Stafford had 3 last night.

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