good dolphin wrote:
I'm not ashamed to admit I had never heard of Ryan Poles until this morning on the car ride downtown.
That doesn't make it a good or bad hire. It just means my analysis of the hire is pretty limited.
Who wants to join me in the admission?
I'm leaning towards this with coaches too. We know more about assistant coaches than assistant GMs, but what does that get us? The 4 coaches left:
Reid was QB Coach and OL/TE coach before that for Farve's Packers. As assistant HC they were a top 10 offense for 2 years. You could certainly see there was offensive smarts there, even with Favre. From the Holmgren coaching tree, a great one. If I was a Eagle fan at the time (Just considering when they got their first HC job) I'd give it a 5/5
Zac Taylor spent one year as QB coach and one year as Receivers coach for the Rams. They were good on offense, but how much credit should McVey get? They didn't even have an OC Taylor's last year when he was QB coach. Kromer was run game coordinator and some guy named Shane Waldron (now Seahawks OC) was passing game coordinator. It worked out well, but that looks a Matt Nagy-esque resume of success by being in the right place at the right time. As a Bengal Fan at the time I'd give it a 2/5
McVey, speaking of... 3 years as WFT's OC. They finished 26th, 10th, and 12th in points his last year. That's not amazing, even though WFT didn't have much on offense, but he was hired at 31! I'm not sure I'd be thrilled if I were the Rams back then. From the Jay Gruden Coaching tree, lol. I'd give it a 3/5 rounding up because I like taking a shot at a youngest coach ever.
Kyle Shanahan 9 years as OC before being a HC. 4 of them in Washington where he was succeeded by...Sean McVey. Maybe I should look more closely at the Jay Gruden Coaching Tree. Anyway, 21st and 1st in scoring his 2 years as Atl HC. 27th as OC in his one year in Cleveland the year before he moved to ATL. 25, 26, 4 (RGIIIs healthy year), and 23 in Washington before he moved to Cleveland. 17 and 10 his 2 years in Houston as OC before going to Cleveland. 3.5 good years out of 9 as OC. I'd have given him 4/5 at the time. Would only be 3/5 if he didn't finish 1st his last year as OC, but would have been 5/5 if they didn't choke the SB away vs NE.
Other guys on Jay Gruden's WFT 2013 staff with McVey and Shanahan...future head coaches Matt LaFleur and Raheem Morris, current SF OC Mike McDaniel, and old Bears DC Bob Slowik.