Agree. Part of it was supposed to be getting more black GMs. That's happened, but hasn't helped as of yet.

A black GM Grier fires Flores, possibly a black coach gets that job, but it's a mess.

Poles hires a 50 year old white guy and doesn't even interview Bienenmy, someone he's worked with. That might have been a Trace Armstrong/Polian call, but it's a bad look for the Bears.

Kwesi in MN looks like he's going to hire a white guy in Harbaugh. That's somewhat excusable because of who he is, he's not a 50 year old defensive coordinator who's never been a head coach. But, I still thought they'd would hire a black coach. They still might if Harbaugh flakes.

Still a few other gigs open. I think Dennis Allan gets the Saints job and we see what happens with the Texans, Jags and Dolphins.

A lot more black coaches need their shot though.

If ownership is in the way, they need to step aside. Maybe Denver will be the first black owned NFL team. It would be great to see.

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He can do what he likes. Complaining that he didn’t get a job is kind of silly but maybe he’ll go on to great success as a result of suing every potential future employer.

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It’s somewhat excusable that a black GM would consider hiring Jim Harbaugh? What does that even mean?

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More balck coordinators should open up more opportunities to become head coaches.

Still think Leftwich will end up in Jacksonville.

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Strategically, it's career suicide. MANY don't believe that he has a legitimate argument though. Maybe he doesn't personally have a legitimate argument, but I think his general point has some validity.

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Virginia, Goerge & Ted have to be "whew" that they did their due diligence, and didn't hire him.

I think he’s frustrated and lashing out. It seems like he thought he shouldn’t have to take a backseat to Daboll and signed up to a preexisting lawsuit waiting for a plaintiff.

If he had a Trace Armstrong to consult I imagine this would’ve played out differently. It strikes me as a ‘when keeping it real goes wrong’ kind of situation.

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Is this lawsuit no different than any black person suing America for past transgressions? He'll need specific instances with proof more than he said she said?

Another negative for their case, July is in to it

Wait until you guys find out how MANY black head coaches there are coaching the 100+ D1 college football teams!!!

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Not many? 14, 15 from a quick google?

It’s kind of begging the question as to what’s the right number of black coaches.

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The Belichick whistleblowing texts doesn't help because he had already been interviewed once. I doubt he has anything that directly shows racial bias in hiring.

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I don't think that it has to be 70%. I just think 3% in a league with high turnover is off.

Edit: I have no idea if the turnover rate in elite college football is as high as the NFL.

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I feel for Flores. Coaching is hard. The dues paying is exhausting. He shouldn't have to put up with the politics and I don't blame him for being furious. That being said, there are other ways to get the word out than suing. But this is the NFL. A coach can get fired over privately calling the commissioner a burrito.

I doubt that is a lawsuit that was put together once Daboll was hired. I imagine that’s something that was being worked on after he was fired in Miami.

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Probably so.

But including the Giants and the Belicheck text in the lawsuit makes it seem ridiculous.

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The Kaep, concussion, gruden stuff…I suspect all that has been hanging around for a while. The lawyer on P&S today suggested a class action like this aims for a dozen+ plaintiffs.

It’ll be interesting to see who joins him.

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He fired all those assistants because he knew Ross was paying them to tank. Boom, justified.

3% (1 out of 32) seems ridiculous, though I know it’s also been higher than 13% (the overall black population) at times.

What is never discussed is why that is bad for coaches, but having 70% of players is okay. If the NFL mandated that teams had to have 13% black coaches but also only 13% black players, wouldn’t most people blast that as absurd?

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Equity for white football NOW!

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I want more Julian Edelmans! (Not)

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Quarterbacks turned into receivers?

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I don't think this lawsuit is going to got well for Flores when it has this in it.

When your lawsuit filing gets featured on Bad Legal Takes, I think you're going to probably get laughed out of court by the judge.

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The entire lawsuit is an embarrassment. It's the typical state of "racism" now. One of the most privileged and wealthy people in the country complaining that he wasn't given enough wealth and opportunity. Want to know why there aren't more black coaches in the NFL? Why should the owners put up with bullshit like this?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

It's going to be interesting to see if this lawsuit ends the Rooney Rule. If you can get in trouble for interviewing candidates when you know your next choice as a coach then you are setting yourself up for similar lawsuits.

A lot of these interviews are mere formalities. You think the Vikings are going to sit down today after Harbaugh gets back on the plane to leave and say "Ok, should we offer him the job?".

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The Rooney Rule is dead. It was little more that virtue signaling anyway.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I would think there’s at least some value in going through an interview process for the first time. Both in getting reps explaining how you’d build/operate a football team and potential networking with the people making hiring decisions.

It’s a very awkward rule but it almost forces guys to get experience they otherwise may not get.

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I wonder if the Rooney Rule ever actually led to anyone being hired that otherwise wasn't going to get hired in the first place. Was there ever a Rooney interview that made a teams ownership completely change course and hire a minority they didn't already intend to hire?

Mike Tomlin was the only one, right?

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My recollection is when the Rooney Rule was instituted they knew it was imperfect. They also knew they would not increase minority hires by any percentage know at the time. What they believed was whether token or not simply identifying and interviewing minority head coach (and I suppose GM) candidates that otherwise were not getting chances would even if accidentally find diamonds in the rough to be given a chance and excel.

As with anything in society when you view a snapshot from a quote perspective it will be warped. So we seem to agree that the number is not 13% like the population but also not necessarily 70% like the player percentage. So what is it? Who has the chart?

The NFL has done much better than when I was young. It is cited now Tomlin is the only coach. 5 and 10 years ago it was different. Actually more head coaches Green, Dungy, Shell, Lewis etc etc.

Probably what the NFL should measure themselves against if anything would be MLB and NBA. How do those percentages look? The NBA seems to have many black coaches yet still the white man exists.

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The NFL should create a rule to try and increase the amount of white cornerbacks.

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