The show features the best handicapped character in TV history since Corky.

So far he's only tried on pants and been "scared straight" with a yuck mouth hooker in a motel parking lot.

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This

If you can't produce something worthwhile in the first season why the hell did people keep watching?

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If you guys gave it a shot and didn't like it, that's cool. I felt that way about Mad Men.

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you missed Jon Hamm smoking cigarettes and drinking Tom Collins.

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I'm catching up on this show. It is so ridiculous and I love every second of it. If the show had any shred of reality to it, it would have only been 15 minutes long and the cartel representatives would have killed Marty and his partner in their office and be done with it. I see the Diet BB comparisons and they are apt, with a more evil version of Skylar in Wendy.

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I finished the first season of Breaking Bad. Fortunately, it was short. I have no clue how it went beyond the first season. None of the characters are believable, the storyline isn't believable and it looks like it was filmed in 1995. There is also no violence or sex to entertain me.

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There's plenty of violence to come. And one of the best villains ever.

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Finished the first segment of episodes for Ozark. It is enjoyable enough if you suspend belief and just take it for the roller coaster ride it is. Definitely not one of the best series of all time but they have at least made it entertaining and the body count has been impressive.

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The suspending belief argument is hilarious. This is a society where they can't get enough of Spiderman.

Suspending disbelief works within the context of the show/movie. I had no problem with Independence Day having advanced aliens attack...the problem was when we were expected to believe we could infect their mothership with a virus from a Mac laptop.

I don't really know enough about drug cartels to know if Ozark is realistic in that regard, or even with some of the money laundering aspects. I'm fine with it.

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I'm fine with suspending disbelief up to a point. It's what movies and TV is all about. I'm past that point when the entire industry is either in costumes and capes or in a galaxy far, far away. It makes Darlene's fuckups getting swept under the rug seem extremely plausible.

Maybe it's apples and oranges. Maybe different audiences demand different standards.

I had the same problems with the flawed logic of “The Dark Knight Rises” that I have with this show. You still have to make your story make sense. As RLM has said, even ghost stories need “rules”. It’s called storytelling 101.

These writers don’t know shit about fuck.

I wanted to love that movie, and while there are many great moments, I agree that there was too much absurdity to accept.

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I've only seen a couple of Marvel movies, I don't care for them. I'll likely go and see the new Batman but he is the only "super hero" character I like, and he is just a "normal" guy with gadgets.

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I wouldn't have an issue with this take if you didn't love Breaking Bad. It violates ALL of the things you dislike in a major way.

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I’ve watched all of “Ozark”. You’ve hate-watched one season of BB. The story within its context makes sense enough. There are definitely moments (which you haven’t seen) that go over the top. But the characters and drama is better written than “Ozark”.

You’re looking for things to hate in BB because you’re trolling fans. I am not looking for problems and cracks in logic in “Ozark”. They’re just overwhelmingly obvious. Even Reddit fanboys see it, and that’s very rare.

Ozark is junk food. Not to be taken seriously....same with any TV show.
It's good...not great, but entertaining and interesting. Realistic? Absolutely not. No TV show is realistic.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

A happily married high school chemistry teacher gets diagnosed with cancer on his 50th birthday. The next day, he does a ride along with his DEA brother in law to bust a very low level meth operation. He was left inside the car with no other officers around. While in the car, he sees his former student jump out of a window (for no reason) and drive off. He locates the home of this former student, and blackmails him into becoming his meth partner.

This desperate father/husband passes up on an offer of a big payday -and to get his cancer treatments covered- because his former partner fucked and married his former girlfriend.

This chemistry teacher's handicapped son is taken to a dope and hooker motel to be scared straight because he may have smoked weed. This handicapped kid is also allowed to roam the streets alone, where he gets himself in trouble.

His wife is able to dodge a felony theft arrest by faking going into labor. She also tracks down and threatens a drug dealer about selling marijuana to her husband. She misses a dead body in plain sight multiple times while doing so.

His DEA BIL essentially works alone while trying to takedown petty drug dealers. He's great at his job, but doesn't know his BIL is a meth cook.

This cowardly chemistry teacher becomes a bad ass who kicks the ass of a kid 3 times his size, blows up the office of a leader of a gang, has that guy hand him money, walks past dozens of gang members with the cash and drives away without being killed. In addition to that, he tries to kill 2 drug dealers in the desert, drives around with their bodies while naked, doesn't get stopped in a damaged and bullet riddled RV and ultimately Khashoggis their bodies in the clumsiest way imaginable.

His partner is not only the dumbest criminal ever, but he's also the kinda kid who would get their ass whooped and their money and drugs taken daily. Did I mention that he's also a meth head?

A hilariously "dangerous" gang leader, not only does meth, but he rides along on drug deals, beats to death his lieutenants and somehow missed his cousin getting his arm severed on a hilariously fake drug deal.

I'm supposed to believe that all of that (I missed some things) makes more sense than an account laundering money for a drug cartel by using a small town casino and other businesses?

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If you had a problem with the premise then why did you go beyond the first episode?

I didn’t say the premise was the problem with “Ozark”. In fact I think my criticisms were pretty well laid out. I even gave specific examples. Going back to the first season. In this thread.

yes....but it's still fucking awesome

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BB has 2 outlandish sequences in its final season. But nothing in BB is a big of a gaffe as this, that I pointed out, in page 5 of this thread



It’s like they didn’t even pay attention to their own show Bible.

I like Esai Morales.

There is a lot more to this storyline (which is really the underpinning of the entire show), but mostly it's about Walt's anger at being cut out of the company when he was the brains behind it. He didn't want to be a charity case, and he discovered that he could be the best in the world at something...even if that "something" was illegal and he would never get the traditional accolades.

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Because just about everyone said the show was great. Besides I'm always late on these things. I was late on Ozark too. I've moved into Season 2 trying to find that spark. I've somewhat read ahead so I might jump to Season 3 when Skylar gets into the business.

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I really hope you stick with it. It's the rare show that gets better and better all the way to the end.

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I didn’t watch “Breaking Bad” until after 2 seasons of “Better Call Saul”. I didn’t see “Ozark” until it had just dropped season 3. Doesn’t affect how I watch something or appreciate it.

Breaking Bad is the most overrated series in the last 20/ 30 years. It's no where close to The Wire or The Sopranos. I did binge watch it so maybe that is why I am not as big as a fan. if I watched it week by week when it was on and the suspense built those 7 days then maybe I'd have a different opinion.

I really enjoy Ozarks. It's just for plain entertainment value. once it's done I will never have a desire to watch it again. For now it's a fun watch for me and really just to fill time. most of the netflix shows are like that.

Netflix is yesteryear's B movies/TV shows.