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These two black guys don't know black guys prefer to not hire black lawyers?

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Theo ruins baseball with his tanking strategy and ends up infecting all sports. Then he takes a high paid league job to figure out how to eliminate tanking. What a scam!


Kinda like that old hick who does the radio commercials for getting you out of your time share. In one of the spots, he said that he used to sell time shares, but “didn’t want to go to hell”, so he decided to do the right thing and help people get out of time share ownership…

Oddly brilliant, I guess.

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Who says Seacrest never catches on.



I don't believe that anymore then you and Reader do. :lol:

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Brian Flores couldn't find any black lawyers that were Jewish.


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I'm not sure why who is hired as a coach or an attorney is considered a gotcha.

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I'm not sure why who is hired as a coach or an attorney is considered a gotcha.


Because with big time money on the line, he did what the NFL owners did, go for the best (perceived) candidate, ignoring race.


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I'm not sure why who is hired as a coach or an attorney is considered a gotcha.


Because with big time money on the line, he did what the NFL owners did, go for the best (perceived) candidate, ignoring race.


Has the league really done that historically? The idea of the Bears hiring a black GM and head coach had some of the same people screaming affirmative action around here. I imagine instead of celebrating an all black/minority staff, MANY would have called it reverse racism.

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I'm not sure why who is hired as a coach or an attorney is considered a gotcha.


Because with big time money on the line, he did what the NFL owners did, go for the best (perceived) candidate, ignoring race.


Has the league really done that historically? The idea of the Bears hiring a black GM and head coach had some of the same people screaming affirmative action around here. I imagine instead of celebrating an all black/minority staff, MANY would have called it reverse racism.

Not me. I'd call it racism.


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I'm not sure why who is hired as a coach or an attorney is considered a gotcha.


Because with big time money on the line, he did what the NFL owners did, go for the best (perceived) candidate, ignoring race.



But he did that as a coach too.

He just fired a lot of them in short order.

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Also is the draft pick incentive is stupid and makes no sense. You get a pick if a Black candidate gets hired away? Still no incentive for the hiring person/decision maker. If you did something like "hire a black coach, keep him for at least two years, and you get a sandwiched 1st/2nd rounder" you would have 8-10 black head coaches in two years.


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Also is the draft pick incentive is stupid and makes no sense. You get a pick if a Black candidate gets hired away? Still no incentive for the hiring person/decision maker. If you did something like "hire a black coach, keep him for at least two years, and you get a sandwiched 1st/2nd rounder" you would have 8-10 black head coaches in two years.



Huh?

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Also is the draft pick incentive is stupid and makes no sense. You get a pick if a Black candidate gets hired away? Still no incentive for the hiring person/decision maker. If you did something like "hire a black coach, keep him for at least two years, and you get a sandwiched 1st/2nd rounder" you would have 8-10 black head coaches in two years.



Huh?

The incentive system seems off. You only get picks when people leave your organization for certain administrative positions elsewhere. If you incentivized the hiring of black candidates for certain jobs, you’d likely get more black candidates hired in those jobs.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Also is the draft pick incentive is stupid and makes no sense. You get a pick if a Black candidate gets hired away? Still no incentive for the hiring person/decision maker. If you did something like "hire a black coach, keep him for at least two years, and you get a sandwiched 1st/2nd rounder" you would have 8-10 black head coaches in two years.



Huh?

The incentive system seems off. You only get picks when people leave your organization for certain administrative positions elsewhere. If you incentivized the hiring of black candidates for certain jobs, you’d likely get more black candidates hired in those jobs.


Yes and as much as doing this goes against my general political beliefs, I would be fine with the NFL doing it till things balance out. Look at that fucking nerd Miami hired, he's doesn't deserve to be a head coach.


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Also is the draft pick incentive is stupid and makes no sense. You get a pick if a Black candidate gets hired away? Still no incentive for the hiring person/decision maker. If you did something like "hire a black coach, keep him for at least two years, and you get a sandwiched 1st/2nd rounder" you would have 8-10 black head coaches in two years.



Huh?

The incentive system seems off. You only get picks when people leave your organization for certain administrative positions elsewhere. If you incentivized the hiring of black candidates for certain jobs, you’d likely get more black candidates hired in those jobs.


Yes and as much as doing this goes against my general political beliefs, I would be fine with the NFL doing it till things balance out. Look at that fucking nerd Miami hired, he's doesn't deserve to be a head coach.

I like to think of him as the black Trestman.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Also is the draft pick incentive is stupid and makes no sense. You get a pick if a Black candidate gets hired away? Still no incentive for the hiring person/decision maker. If you did something like "hire a black coach, keep him for at least two years, and you get a sandwiched 1st/2nd rounder" you would have 8-10 black head coaches in two years.



Huh?

The incentive system seems off. You only get picks when people leave your organization for certain administrative positions elsewhere. If you incentivized the hiring of black candidates for certain jobs, you’d likely get more black candidates hired in those jobs.


Yes and as much as doing this goes against my general political beliefs, I would be fine with the NFL doing it till things balance out. Look at that fucking nerd Miami hired, he's doesn't deserve to be a head coach.

I like to think of him as the black Trestman.


I think having it for executives only makes more sense. The coaching market is more volatile.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Also is the draft pick incentive is stupid and makes no sense. You get a pick if a Black candidate gets hired away? Still no incentive for the hiring person/decision maker. If you did something like "hire a black coach, keep him for at least two years, and you get a sandwiched 1st/2nd rounder" you would have 8-10 black head coaches in two years.



Huh?

The incentive system seems off. You only get picks when people leave your organization for certain administrative positions elsewhere. If you incentivized the hiring of black candidates for certain jobs, you’d likely get more black candidates hired in those jobs.


Yes and as much as doing this goes against my general political beliefs, I would be fine with the NFL doing it till things balance out. Look at that fucking nerd Miami hired, he's doesn't deserve to be a head coach.

I like to think of him as the black Trestman.


I think having it for executives only makes more sense. The coaching market is more volatile.

I don’t even know that it’s a sensible policy. I’m generally not supportive of race based incentives.

But if goodell wants to grandstand, he ought to create some actions that match his words.

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Also is the draft pick incentive is stupid and makes no sense. You get a pick if a Black candidate gets hired away? Still no incentive for the hiring person/decision maker. If you did something like "hire a black coach, keep him for at least two years, and you get a sandwiched 1st/2nd rounder" you would have 8-10 black head coaches in two years.



Huh?

The incentive system seems off. You only get picks when people leave your organization for certain administrative positions elsewhere. If you incentivized the hiring of black candidates for certain jobs, you’d likely get more black candidates hired in those jobs.


Yes and as much as doing this goes against my general political beliefs, I would be fine with the NFL doing it till things balance out. Look at that fucking nerd Miami hired, he's doesn't deserve to be a head coach.



Time will tell.

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I don’t even know that it’s a sensible policy. I’m generally not supportive of race based incentives.

But if goodell wants to grandstand, he ought to create some actions that match his words.


I think if you incentivize the head coach you would see a Culley every year for a rebuilding team. You're not going to shake up your front office every year.

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I don’t even know that it’s a sensible policy. I’m generally not supportive of race based incentives.

But if goodell wants to grandstand, he ought to create some actions that match his words.


I think if you incentivize the head coach you would see a Culley every year for a rebuilding team. You're not going to shake up your front office every year.

That’s fine though. If the aim is to increase representation for certain races at certain jobs, who cares what the situation looks like. Make it compelling for mgt to branch outside of the boys club, comfort zone, whatever.

Most teams don’t aspire to blow a season or two on dead-man walking coaches and there are consequences to those that do.

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OK. I give. The man is in now in Bubba Wallace territory.


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Has the league really done that historically? The idea of the Bears hiring a black GM and head coach had some of the same people screaming affirmative action around here. I imagine instead of celebrating an all black/minority staff, MANY would have called it reverse racism.


The Bears hired someone to "diversify" the hiring process and presented her at the press conference. Funny that the lack of hispanic or Asian coaches/players didn't come up as an organizational issue.

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Has the league really done that historically? The idea of the Bears hiring a black GM and head coach had some of the same people screaming affirmative action around here. I imagine instead of celebrating an all black/minority staff, MANY would have called it reverse racism.


The Bears hired someone to "diversify" the hiring process and presented her at the press conference. Funny that the lack of hispanic or Asian coaches/players didn't come up as an organizational issue.

Nor did the lack of handicaps or gays!


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Has the league really done that historically? The idea of the Bears hiring a black GM and head coach had some of the same people screaming affirmative action around here. I imagine instead of celebrating an all black/minority staff, MANY would have called it reverse racism.


The Bears hired someone to "diversify" the hiring process and presented her at the press conference. Funny that the lack of hispanic or Asian coaches/players didn't come up as an organizational issue.

Nor did the lack of handicaps or gays!

It’d be objectively hilarious if they created sufficient incentives that resulted in a flamboyantly gay guy in charge of a team.

Probably would be the bears but that’s funny bad territory.

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Nas wrote:
Has the league really done that historically? The idea of the Bears hiring a black GM and head coach had some of the same people screaming affirmative action around here. I imagine instead of celebrating an all black/minority staff, MANY would have called it reverse racism.


The Bears hired someone to "diversify" the hiring process and presented her at the press conference. Funny that the lack of hispanic or Asian coaches/players didn't come up as an organizational issue.

Nor did the lack of handicaps or gays!

It’d be objectively hilarious if they created sufficient incentives that resulted in a flamboyantly gay guy in charge of a team.

Probably would be the bears but that’s funny bad territory.


You have to have something for midgets too. Just not the tall ones.

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The Dolphins might be the most progressive organization in the NFL.

Seahawks, Raiders, Packers (only non-plutocratic team)?

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