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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:24 am 
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I don't see Epicenter winning the Louisiana Derby as a foregone conclusion, looking vulnerable in this spot to the likes of Call Me Midnight and Zosos as closers. I'd be willing to take a flyer on Zosos with his connections, having Brad Cox as the trailer and Florent Geroux riding. I doubt we'll see him at 8-1 and figure he'll be priced down to around 4-1 by the wiseguys by post-time. What's interesting about Zosos is that he has a spinter's pedigree on his sire's side. His long-distance pedigree is on his dam's side with his great-grandfather, Holy Bull. Zosos benefited from the slow pace in his second race in that $100K OC over 1 1/16 mi at Oaklawn in Feb., but even if the pace is hot in this race and it should be because of Epicenter, he should have no difficulty staying close because of his sprinter's pedigree. Epicenter might even be the third horse in this field, after being bested by Call Me Midnight in the LeComte at the Fairgrounds in February, with Call Me Midnight trained by local legend K. Desormeaux. Psychologically, Call Me Midnight has the upper hand against Epicenter.

So I'm inclined to play it Zosos, Call Me Midnight and Epicenter. I wouldn't give Rattle N Roll another chance after placing 6th with no excuses in the FOY.


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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:35 am 
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Epicenter isn't the kind of animal I bet, but he's absolutely a legit favorite in this race. The race profiles almost exactly the same as the Risen Star. He figures to have the lead just as easily today. This is probably a pass race for me. Of course, Epicenter can lose, it's just hard to see who could possibly beat him.

If I bet it will probably be a flyer on Galt, who got wiped out in the Holy Bull. The price should be right. I just don't see any other horse in here that will have odds that make a bet make sense. You got 43/1 on Call Me Midnight in the Lecomte and everything in the race went absolutely perfectly for him. He'll probably be about 7/1 today. Not enough for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:13 am 
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Don't see Zozos as a closer. 2 career races never more than 3 1/2 lengths off the lead. He'll be on the front end with Epicenter but Epicenter will just keep rolling today

Echo Zulu (not related) is a beast and a single the will bring down the late pick 5

Race 10 will be great...2-Sacred life will be at best 2/1 and not worth it in my opinion, especially off the bench. I like all of the outside horses, mainly the 9 Santin ...the 6 and 7 both Block horses will be closing hard and could blow up the trifecta the 8 Two emmys also can seal the deal at this distance as can the 3 Devani, Browns other entry with the 2...great wagering race

Race 8 the Clara Peters has been popular in the claiming box going from Cox to Sharp to Hartman, who is been on fire...the 8 She Can't Sing has dropped some big prices ($24/$16) last two out. The 9 Lovely Ride is getting faster and absolutely fits here


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:32 am 
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The 9 Lovely Ride is getting faster and absolutely fits here

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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:16 pm 
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OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Don't see Zozos as a closer. 2 career races never more than 3 1/2 lengths off the lead. He'll be on the front end with Epicenter but Epicenter will just keep rolling today

Echo Zulu (not related) is a beast and a single the will bring down the late pick 5

Race 10 will be great...2-Sacred life will be at best 2/1 and not worth it in my opinion, especially off the bench. I like all of the outside horses, mainly the 9 Santin ...the 6 and 7 both Block horses will be closing hard and could blow up the trifecta the 8 Two emmys also can seal the deal at this distance as can the 3 Devani, Browns other entry with the 2...great wagering race

Race 8 the Clara Peters has been popular in the claiming box going from Cox to Sharp to Hartman, who is been on fire...the 8 She Can't Sing has dropped some big prices ($24/$16) last two out. The 9 Lovely Ride is getting faster and absolutely fits here

The 10th had to work out for you, nice call!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Derby
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:47 pm 
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Don't see Zozos as a closer. 2 career races never more than 3 1/2 lengths off the lead. He'll be on the front end with Epicenter but Epicenter will just keep rolling today...Zozos led all the way, hardly a closer...Epicenter too stong.

Echo Zulu (not related) is a beast and a single the will bring down the late pick 5...I think it was easier than it looked, but that may be me.

Race 10 will be great...2-Sacred life will be at best 2/1 and not worth it in my opinion, especially off the bench (4th). I like all of the outside horses, mainly the 9 Santin (2nd) ...the 6 and 7 both Block horses will be closing hard and could blow up the trifecta the 8 Two emmys ($13.20) also can seal the deal (1st) at this distance as can the 3 Devani, Browns other entry with the 2...great wagering race

Race 8 the Clara Peters has been popular in the claiming box going from Cox to Sharp to Hartman, who is been on fire 3rd 5.80...the 8 She Can't Sing ($20.60) has dropped some big prices ($24/$16) last two out (make it 3).


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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Derby
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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Derby
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What a beast Epicenter is. He has to be the Derby favorite now.

You can't knock Zosos' effort at all, who stepped up $900K in class in only his third race to run a big one against the more seasoned horse.

Brad Cox and Geroux may have made a tactical error sending Zosos out to the lead. He may have done better from a stalking position than having to hold onto that lead down the stretch when he was tiring at the end. I think everyone must have been surprised at how Zosos outran Epicenter early on, because I can tell you that Epicenter projected dominantly in E1 and E2 against the field.

Maybe we'll get a rematch in the Fla. Derby between these two, another Thrilla in Manila.


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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Derby
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:04 am 
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Dignified Rube wrote:
What a beast Epicenter is. He has to be the Derby favorite now.

You can't knock Zosos' effort at all, who stepped up $900K in class in only his third race to run a big one against the more seasoned horse.

Brad Cox and Geroux may have made a tactical error sending Zosos out to the lead. He may have done better from a stalking position than having to hold onto that lead down the stretch when he was tiring at the end. I think everyone must have been surprised at how Zosos outran Epicenter early on, because I can tell you that Epicenter projected dominantly in E1 and E2 against the field.

Maybe we'll get a rematch in the Fla. Derby between these two, another Thrilla in Manila.


They used that race to teach him how to come from behind horses and he passed the test. I'm not convinced he's beating a whole lot though.

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Echo Zulu (not related) is a beast and a single the will bring down the late pick 5...I think it was easier than it looked, but that may be me.


For me, the biggest question going into that race was why they waited so long to start her this year. Even assuming she was going to win and secure the points she needs for the Oaks, that's cutting it a little short on prep to do that without the horse forcing them to do it.

I'd keep my eye on the horse that finished second. There's almost always a big front end bias on the Fairgrounds dirt and I think it was particularly the case yesterday.

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