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every time I think I've found the guy for the bears he starts to shoot up draft boards. It started with Zion Johnson.

Now, I think the guy is Tyler Smith, T, Tulsa. All of his technical deficiencies should be able to be resolved with a move to guard. He plays a very physical game, sometimes taking bad penalties beyond the whistle. However, I think if you plug him in at that open guard position next to Jenkins, you have created that attitude switch in the OL group that Poles seems to want. Now, I see that he is starting to be projected into some first rounds.

The other Poles type guy for that OG spot is Cole Strange from Chatanooga. You can get him further down in the draft.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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The Bears should be taking two OL dudes within their first four picks.


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Unless Poles trades Fields during the first round of the draft, I don't see the Bears keeping the 39th pick. They are too reliant on veteran free agents and need to build depth across their roster. I suspect they will trade back in the second round.

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Poles hasn't impressed me at all with his off season. It doesn't matter if he is a good talent evaluator in the draft. Fields needs help. O-line and receivers.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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From what I read it's a buyers market for draft picks so good luck trading back.


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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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Based on mock drafts, my top three picks for the Bears would be.

39. George Pickens WR Georgia
48. Kyler Gordon CB Washington
71. Dylan Parham OL Memphis

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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Poles is going to be consistent: draft 7th round guys in the second/third just to keep the roster as shitty as possible.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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I'm looking forward to seeing which direction Poles will swing. So far, I love his focus and discipline.

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From what I read it's a buyers market for draft picks so good luck trading back.




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From what I read it's a buyers market for draft picks so good luck trading back.




Sounds desperate


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It will be interesting to see which WR's are on the board at 39 if they trade that pick.

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From what I read it's a buyers market for draft picks so good luck trading back.




Sounds desperate


Wouldn't you be?

He's got a crap roster and barely any decent picks.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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From what I read it's a buyers market for draft picks so good luck trading back.




Sounds desperate


Wouldn't you be?

He's got a crap roster and barely any decent picks.

The 1st part is a little bit his fault


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Id sign jarvis landry for jackshit.

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Id sign jarvis landry for jackshit.


If he's gonna play for jack shit, I assume Landry would prefer to be on a team other than the Bears. He would be a nice pickup, though.

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Id sign jarvis landry for jackshit.


I think he's no worse than equal to Allen Robinson, but I think he wants to give Watson a massage or something. I would be fine with a multi year investment in him.

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I think Landry has to sign a 1 year deal for 13 mill or so, deep draft at WR

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I think Landry has to sign a 1 year deal for 13 mill or so, deep draft at WR


It sounds like he really wants to play for the team that dumped him.

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I think Landry has to sign a 1 year deal for 13 mill or so, deep draft at WR

Why would any good WR sign a 1 yr deal with a bad passing offense?

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Id sign jarvis landry for jackshit.


I think he's no worse than equal to Allen Robinson, but I think he wants to give Watson a massage or something. I would be fine with a multi year investment in him.

Your hatred of A-Rob is really skewing your view of other players. A-Rob is a WR1b and Landry is hoping a desperate team takes a chance.

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Id sign jarvis landry for jackshit.


I think he's no worse than equal to Allen Robinson, but I think he wants to give Watson a massage or something. I would be fine with a multi year investment in him.

Your hatred of A-Rob is really skewing your view of other players. A-Rob is a WR1b and Landry is hoping a desperate team takes a chance.


Numbers don't lie. A Rob couldn't get separation or beat good cornerbacks. He was a decent #2 and now he's probably just a #3.

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From what I read it's a buyers market for draft picks so good luck trading back.


weak QB class driving that maybe. main thing teams look to trade up for is a QB but there aren't any QB's in this draft worth expending the extra draft picks to move up for. teams still do deals to move up for other players but the lack of big moves to try to get a QB cascades throughout the draft and makes it a buyer's market? Last year folks were saying 2022 draft picks were worth more than 2021 draft picks because the lack of a combine in 2021 and limited chances to work out players individually due to covid last year.


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Based on mock drafts, my top three picks for the Bears would be.

39. George Pickens WR Georgia
48. Kyler Gordon CB Washington
71. Dylan Parham OL Memphis


A lot of mock drafts have Pickens going to the Bears, but I can't see Poles taking this guy. In addition to the ACL injury he suffered during spring practice prior to his junior season, he had another injury that kept him out of a bunch of games during his sophomore season. His behavior was also a problem during his college career--he was suspended for violating team rules, got ejected from a game for starting a fight, and has done some other questionable things (most infamously squirting a Tennessee player with water on the Georgia sideline). He's talented, but he doesn't seem worth the risk.

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I think Landry has to sign a 1 year deal for 13 mill or so, deep draft at WR

Why would any good WR sign a 1 yr deal with a bad passing offense?


The Browns cut him because hecwas due 16 mill, I dont think they have interest, even at a paycut. GB is in need and didnt pursue, same with Indy.. I think he wont have much of a choice on who and how long.

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Id sign jarvis landry for jackshit.


I think he's no worse than equal to Allen Robinson, but I think he wants to give Watson a massage or something. I would be fine with a multi year investment in him.

Your hatred of A-Rob is really skewing your view of other players. A-Rob is a WR1b and Landry is hoping a desperate team takes a chance.


Numbers don't lie. A Rob couldn't get separation or beat good cornerbacks. He was a decent #2 and now he's probably just a #3.


Highly likely that the next Bears WR1 will not be on the roster until after next years draft.

They can either buy one next year, draft one next year, or a guy they lucked upon in the draft this year will have developed to the point you can realistically refer to him as a legitimate NFL WR1.


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Hussra wrote:
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From what I read it's a buyers market for draft picks so good luck trading back.


weak QB class driving that maybe. main thing teams look to trade up for is a QB but there aren't any QB's in this draft worth expending the extra draft picks to move up for. teams still do deals to move up for other players but the lack of big moves to try to get a QB cascades throughout the draft and makes it a buyer's market? Last year folks were saying 2022 draft picks were worth more than 2021 draft picks because the lack of a combine in 2021 and limited chances to work out players individually due to covid last year.


I think the move up for QB in this draft will be at the very back of rd 1 with teams making slight trade ups from their high 2 in order to secure the fifth year of control on QB who will need developmental time.

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From what I read it's a buyers market for draft picks so good luck trading back.


weak QB class driving that maybe. main thing teams look to trade up for is a QB but there aren't any QB's in this draft worth expending the extra draft picks to move up for. teams still do deals to move up for other players but the lack of big moves to try to get a QB cascades throughout the draft and makes it a buyer's market? Last year folks were saying 2022 draft picks were worth more than 2021 draft picks because the lack of a combine in 2021 and limited chances to work out players individually due to covid last year.


As far as the Bears are concerned, Poles may have difficulty trading back in the second round due to the excellent perceived depth of this year's draft. A bunch of analysts say that there will be a lot of starting-caliber players available through the mid to late rounds. If that's the case, teams may not want to move up in the second round if doing so means losing picks in rounds 3, 4 or 5.

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312player wrote:
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I think Landry has to sign a 1 year deal for 13 mill or so, deep draft at WR

Why would any good WR sign a 1 yr deal with a bad passing offense?


The Browns cut him because hecwas due 16 mill, I dont think they have interest, even at a paycut. GB is in need and didnt pursue, same with Indy.. I think he wont have much of a choice on who and how long.


we are now in the point of the free agency period where big money isn't even present to spend. It takes a bit of expectation adjustment but after the draft, veterans start to become desperate for a life preserver.

I kind of like the idea of Julio Jones on a one year over Landry. Landry plays slot and I think they signed Pringles for that spot. Obviously you are betting on health with him. Look at his numbers when he plays.

Everything depends on the draft.

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From what I read it's a buyers market for draft picks so good luck trading back.


weak QB class driving that maybe. main thing teams look to trade up for is a QB but there aren't any QB's in this draft worth expending the extra draft picks to move up for. teams still do deals to move up for other players but the lack of big moves to try to get a QB cascades throughout the draft and makes it a buyer's market? Last year folks were saying 2022 draft picks were worth more than 2021 draft picks because the lack of a combine in 2021 and limited chances to work out players individually due to covid last year.


I think the move up for QB in this draft will be at the very back of rd 1 with teams making slight trade ups from their high 2 in order to secure the fifth year of control on QB who will need developmental time.


Possibly, though there are at least three teams--Carolina, Seattle, and Pittsburgh--who apparently have significant interest in Malik Willis.

Additionally, some analysts on the NFL Network have said there could be trade ups into the middle of the first round for Pickett and/or Ridder.

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