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This is not a WS rotation, even with everyone back.

Last year was not a WS rotation. The rotation is less than it was last year.

There are glaring holes all over this roster.

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The non-signing of Rodon looks horrible right now...if he keeps it up and doesn't get hurt, that will be a black eye on Hahn. It would also be another knock on whoever is doing their medical evaluations/training. The guys they have are always hurt and the guy they deemed and discarded as damaged stays healthy.

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This is not a WS rotation, even with everyone back.



What team has a "WS rotation"?

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I’m sure AJ Hinch would have this team firing on all cylinders no doubt .
He has the Tigers at 6-10.

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Kuechel gave up two runs yesterday on two booted ground outs.
He had five walks over four innings. Let's not make it seem like he was mowing guys down, and took a tough luck Quintana type loss. He's sucked for the better part of a year now.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
This is not a WS rotation, even with everyone back.



What team has a "WS rotation"?


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
This is not a WS rotation, even with everyone back.



What team has a "WS rotation"?


Judging by the White Sox's offensive output lately, every one of their recent opponents seems to have a "WS rotation".

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What team has a "WS rotation"?
I think that's the wrong question to ask. Given the truncated spring training and SP outings being shorter than ever, the question likely should be 'What team has a WS bullpen?'

For all of Hendriks's issues, the Sox bullpen has really been pretty good overall early on here. They have had to cover a ton of outs and, for the most part, have kept the Sox in almost every game.

For the record, I'm not even thinking Sox WS right meow. .500 seems like a pipedream at this point.

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Giolito, Kopech, Lynn, Cease wouldn’t be an awful playoff rotation.

Getting there and staying healthy seems unlikely.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
This is not a WS rotation, even with everyone back.



What team has a "WS rotation"?


Judging by the White Sox's offensive output lately, every one of their recent opponents seems to have a "WS rotation".


:lol:

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Giolito, Kopech, Lynn, Cease wouldn’t be an awful playoff rotation.

Getting there and staying healthy seems unlikely.


:lol: Its the same rotation as last year substituting Kopech for Rodon who was the best pitcher on the staff last year and they got their shit pushed in.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Giolito, Kopech, Lynn, Cease wouldn’t be an awful playoff rotation.

Getting there and staying healthy seems unlikely.


:lol: Its the same rotation as last year substituting Kopech for Rodon who was the best pitcher on the staff last year and they got their shit pushed in.


That means they will never be successful ever again. Best to give up now.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Giolito, Kopech, Lynn, Cease wouldn’t be an awful playoff rotation.

Getting there and staying healthy seems unlikely.


:lol: Its the same rotation as last year substituting Kopech for Rodon who was the best pitcher on the staff last year and they got their shit pushed in.

I wasn’t personally at any of those games so I can’t speak to what did or did not happen.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Giolito, Kopech, Lynn, Cease wouldn’t be an awful playoff rotation.

Getting there and staying healthy seems unlikely.


:lol: Its the same rotation as last year substituting Kopech for Rodon who was the best pitcher on the staff last year and they got their shit pushed in.

I wasn’t personally at any of those games so I can’t speak to what did or did not happen.


I'm here to answer your questions about games 1,2 and 5 versus the Astros...
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
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Giolito, Kopech, Lynn, Cease wouldn’t be an awful playoff rotation.

Getting there and staying healthy seems unlikely.


:lol: Its the same rotation as last year substituting Kopech for Rodon who was the best pitcher on the staff last year and they got their shit pushed in.

I wasn’t personally at any of those games so I can’t speak to what did or did not happen.


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Game 5, huh? I'd like to hear about that one...

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In 2022, a World Series rotation is four guys who will pitch four innings per appearance and give up one run or less. Do they have four guys who can do that? Probably.
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My bitching on this is almost entirely based on the pass he got from many Sox fans on this board after they made it through the first half of 2021 with key players missing. That was surprising and nice, but was TLR responsible for it? I’d be more inclined to credit freak streak hitting from Mercedes, solid pitching and a bit of luck than managerial superiority. TLR is certainly not the only reason they suck now either, but he certainly has been a larger detractor than a manager should be.

I’m definitely guilty of that, but at what point should the guy get credit given the circumstances? He rolls out uncompetitive lineups at least once a week and his pitching decisions were atrocious at points, but if he should get the heat when they lose, does he get any credit when they won like they did last year?

NO....it was dumb luck.

Under .500 since last year's All Star break. Bigger sample size than the lucky period.
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Nardi wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
My bitching on this is almost entirely based on the pass he got from many Sox fans on this board after they made it through the first half of 2021 with key players missing. That was surprising and nice, but was TLR responsible for it? I’d be more inclined to credit freak streak hitting from Mercedes, solid pitching and a bit of luck than managerial superiority. TLR is certainly not the only reason they suck now either, but he certainly has been a larger detractor than a manager should be.

I’m definitely guilty of that, but at what point should the guy get credit given the circumstances? He rolls out uncompetitive lineups at least once a week and his pitching decisions were atrocious at points, but if he should get the heat when they lose, does he get any credit when they won like they did last year?

NO....it was dumb luck.

Under .500 since last year's All Star break. Bigger sample size than the lucky period.


I heard that stat too and wonder if it holds true if traced back to the Mercedes incident.

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Nardi wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
My bitching on this is almost entirely based on the pass he got from many Sox fans on this board after they made it through the first half of 2021 with key players missing. That was surprising and nice, but was TLR responsible for it? I’d be more inclined to credit freak streak hitting from Mercedes, solid pitching and a bit of luck than managerial superiority. TLR is certainly not the only reason they suck now either, but he certainly has been a larger detractor than a manager should be.

I’m definitely guilty of that, but at what point should the guy get credit given the circumstances? He rolls out uncompetitive lineups at least once a week and his pitching decisions were atrocious at points, but if he should get the heat when they lose, does he get any credit when they won like they did last year?

NO....it was dumb luck.

Under .500 since last year's All Star break. Bigger sample size than the lucky period.


I heard that stat too and wonder if it holds true if traced back to the Mercedes incident.


Wait, he got another fucking DUI ???

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This bullpen sucks. That's on Hahn.
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Greinke still looks good @ 38, another guy the Sox could have had, could have used...
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Greinke still looks good @ 38, another guy the Sox could have had, could have used...


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Greinke still looks good @ 38, another guy the Sox could have had, could have used...


um no


He's a better option than Kuechal and Velesquez
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