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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:05 pm 
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There are going to be starter level lineman available here

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Let the stock piling continue. The Bears traded pick No. 148 to Buffalo for pick 168 and 203

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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Think the bears wanted kinnard and moved when he wasn’t there

I assume poles thinks everyone around this point is the same level of talent so aggregate and hope you win by numbers

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Another tradedown.

Updated picks

Round
5
Pick 23
(166)

Round
5
Pick 25
(168)

Round
6
Pick 7
(186)

Round
6
Pick 25
(203)

Round
6
Pick 29
(207)

Round
7
Pick 33
(254)

Round
7
Pick 34
(255)

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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There are going to be starter level lineman available here

Starters for good teams or Bear-quality starters?

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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There are going to be starter level lineman available here

Starters for good teams or Bear-quality starters?


Get me lecitus smith.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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If Poles was going to try and get as many picks as possible why on earth did he not move Quinn for some good picks instead of watering down the few picks he did have?

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These trades allow you to take a luxury like arazia at punter

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If Poles was going to try and get as many picks as possible why on earth did he not move Quinn for some good picks instead of watering down the few picks he did have?


Elite level tanking.

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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Let the stock piling continue. The Bears traded pick No. 148 to Buffalo for pick 168 and 203


203 is worth moving 20 down? You don't have anyone left you really like?


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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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If Poles was going to try and get as many picks as possible why on earth did he not move Quinn for some good picks instead of watering down the few picks he did have?




Honestly, what kind of offers do you really think RQ was bringing in?




On topic, I like the trade downs. We suddenly have a lot of picks to take a lot of late swings with. It’s not the worst thing he could have done. Not saying we’re going to find future HoF guys here, but there’s maybe some starter level stuff that can be acquired on a 2-3 year plan here..

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Poles setting expectations low...

Prediction. Poles drafts a least one if not two players from HBCU's with those last round picks.

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Poles setting expectations low...

Prediction. Poles drafts a least one if not two players from HBCU's with those last round picks.




Well, if you’re going to take chances in the draft.. latest round picks are the spots to do it. I’d be fine with 1 or 2 massive Hail Mary picks in the 7th.. why not?

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Poles setting expectations low...

Prediction. Poles drafts a least one if not two players from HBCU's with those last round picks.




Well, if you’re going to take chances in the draft.. latest round picks are the spots to do it. I’d be fine with 1 or 2 massive Hail Mary picks in the 7th.. why not?


Chris Pierce WR Vanderbilt. 6'4" 230


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The Bears trade: Pick 166

The Bengals trade: Pick 174, 226

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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Bo Melton WR Rutgers still on the board.. he’s interesting imo

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The Bears trade: Pick 166

The Bengals trade: Pick 174, 226

Getting more bites at the apple is probably smart at this point but even the guys you hit on will likely be depth rather than legit starters.

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Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah St.

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Draft Projection
Rounds 5-6

NFL Comparison
Yodny Cajuste

Overview
Jones has moments where he can overwhelm his level of competition with size and length, but he's currently lacking the technique and force needed to succeed against NFL defenders. Jones' run blocking isn't as dynamic or athletic as expected and his issues with pad level are a concern. However, he has good slide quickness, developmental traits and talent that should not be overlooked in pass protection. Shoddy footwork and a lack of half-man leverage in his pass sets led to a rough game against Arizona State, but both areas are correctable with work. He has the upside to become an average starting left tackle, but swing tackle feels like the safer projection.

Strengths
Enticing overall size and length.
Explodes out of stance and into kick-slides.
Good job of staying square longer in pass sets.
Quick clinch hands stymie face-up rushers.
Expedites inside slide to capture the gap.
Outside hand is firm.
Choppy settle steps generate momentum into block.
Drives through play-side hand to secure move block.

Weaknesses
Inaccurate hand placement in run game.
Below-average acceleration to second-level landmarks.
Can't generate lower-body anger as drive blocker.
Rarely ever low man at the point of attack.
Inconsistent bringing feet through completion of the block.
Lethargic hands with spotty punch timing.
Platform instability leads to imbalance in punch contact.
Needs to eliminate his outside-in pass-setting approach.
Beaten inside throughout the game by Arizona State rushers.

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The Bears trade: Pick 166

The Bengals trade: Pick 174, 226

Getting more bites at the apple is probably smart at this point but even the guys you hit on will likely be depth rather than legit starters.


Isn't this where your scouting department is suppose to step up? "Yes, we know that there are 15 LB's still on the board that all look the same, but this is the guy who is going to develop and here's why"

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Braxton Jones OT 6'7" 306 4th round grade from Brugler


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Braxton Jones OT 6'7" 306 4th round grade from Brugler

Bleacher Report has him 6/7 round.

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Looking at Matthew Butler, DT, Tennessee

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 Post subject: Re: The Bears Draft
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Augie wrote:
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The Bears trade: Pick 166

The Bengals trade: Pick 174, 226

Getting more bites at the apple is probably smart at this point but even the guys you hit on will likely be depth rather than legit starters.


Isn't this where your scouting department is suppose to step up? "Yes, we know that there are 15 LB's still on the board that all look the same, but this is the guy who is going to develop and here's why"
I’m sure there’s guys they like more than others but it’s still pretty much a crap shoot at this point. Beyond that, they have gut feelings on multiple guys that will likely still be there, so why not get 2 rather than 1.

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Dominique Robinson, EDGE, Miami (OH)

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Rounds 3-4

NFL Comparison
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Overview
Wideout turned quarterback hunter with the bricks and mortar needed to build an impactful career as a 3-4 outside linebacker or 4-3 rush end. Robinson frequently flashes despite his relative inexperience at the position. He's quick off the snap, using plus fluidity, athleticism and bend to trim the edge and assail the pocket. However, he needs additional moves and counters before he's ready to beat pro tackles. He must get stronger and more technically sound in run support. Aligning as a stand-up rush linebacker might help expand his range as a playmaker in space. Robinson projects as an unpolished gem with a high ceiling and stable floor.

Strengths
Former wideout with explosive athleticism off the edge.
Play is more natural than expected given his experience.
Races out of stance with immediate upfield threat.
Unveiled effective two-hand swipe against Central Michigan.
Sudden change of direction torments less athletic pass-setters.
Bends, flattens and bursts to snare the sack.
Fluid in space to hound scramblers or cover tight ends.
Hard for blockers to keep him centered up and sustained.
Covers serious ground and rallies to the football versus the run.
Knifes through B-gap to disrupt play flow on slants.
Can halt run play with unblocked, backside crash.

Weaknesses
NFL competition could stall scheduled growth along the edge.
Must learn to stack blocks and maintain run fits.
Leans way out past his feet and into blocks.
Downhill rushing attacks will be an early challenge for him.
Doesn't use hands early on in his rush to open pathways.
Limited go-to moves and counters at this stage.
Continues to race beyond the quarterback's drop depth.
Lacks broad base to play through strong punch.

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Yo this team is really trying be awful next year.

I love the tanking.

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Yo this team is really trying be awful next year.

I love the tanking.


Same here. Have no problem with them getting a top 10 pick in 2023.

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Looking at Jesse Luketa in the 6th; SAM LB who projects to be a special-teams ace; good locker room guy too.

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Jamaree Salyer still available.


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Jamaree Salyer still available.


I know why Poles hasn't drafted him. RAS Score is 4.17


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Props to pace for learning as he goes. Yesterday he turned a third round pick into a sixth round talent. Today he is turning a couple of 5s into for 6s and 7s.

Like the great philosopher Patrick Kane once said. Two 5s still make a ten.


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