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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:34 am 
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Just started this over the weekend. Hoping to get through the 6 episode mini-series in the next week or so. First two episodes are pretty decent but somewhat slow. Essentially the based on a true story of a guy from the Chicago area that is selling drugs and has a lot of guns in his house before he is busted by the authorities. 7 months into his sentence he is offered a deal to transfer to a prison for the insane to try to befriend a guy from Indiana that is suspected of being a serial killer. They need evidence of this and some bodies before his case potentially gets overturned in court. If successful he would have the rest of his prison sentence commuted. It's on Apple TV. Curious if anyone else was watching or not.

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The guy who plays his dad, the Kankakee Police Chief, I thought he was dead.


Jimmy Keene doesn't actually get the serial killer dude to tell him anything worthwhile, iirc.


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The guy who plays the pedo killer is the comedic relief from Cobra Kai.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The guy who plays the pedo killer is the comedic relief from Cobra Kai.


Yeah I thought he was the same guy as well.

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Finally finished this up. It was good but not great. Hard to tell what actually happened in these Based On A True Story type shows. Definitely had to be a harrowing experience for the guy.

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i don't know about the tv show but irl it was all a big ball of nothing. Keene got fuck all from Hall, but still got out early for the effort (if there even was any effort, other than getting reassigned to a max facility).

LE can't get out of their own way sometimes. The son of a cop yayo dealer doing a 10 year bit suddenly shows up in a max prison and starts playing nice is walking around with huge neon sign over their head flashing "NARC, NARC, NARC". Hall no doubt sussed out Keene from the get and was trolling him with the phony map etc. If there was any way to do it that wouldn't result in Hall killing her, sending in a female via a class or counseling sessions would be the way to get Hall to brag about his kills.

Another killer might fly under Hall's narc radar and Hall might swap info with the other killer. Didn't Ted Bundy help bust the Green River Killer? You're not going to cut a deal for reduced time with a multiple victim killer but most of these prisoners will do just about anything for 20 bucks on their books a week or some extra comfort items for their cell.

Seems like on the spectrum of choices Keene was the most obvious snitch you could send in.


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i don't know about the tv show but irl it was all a big ball of nothing. Keene got fuck all from Hall, but still got out early for the effort (if there even was any effort, other than getting reassigned to a max facility).

LE can't get out of their own way sometimes. The son of a cop yayo dealer doing a 10 year bit suddenly shows up in a max prison and starts playing nice is walking around with huge neon sign over their head flashing "NARC, NARC, NARC". Hall no doubt sussed out Keene from the get and was trolling him with the phony map etc. If there was any way to do it that wouldn't result in Hall killing her, sending in a female via a class or counseling sessions would be the way to get Hall to brag about his kills.

Another killer might fly under Hall's narc radar and Hall might swap info with the other killer. Didn't Ted Bundy help bust the Green River Killer? You're not going to cut a deal for reduced time with a multiple victim killer but most of these prisoners will do just about anything for 20 bucks on their books a week or some extra comfort items for their cell.

Seems like on the spectrum of choices Keene was the most obvious snitch you could send in.


According to the movie version he got Hall to admit he killed over 20 women but he couldn't find out where they were buried. Before the ending credits they said that Hall's brother finally got him to admit to authorities that he had killed 15 women and then promptly recanted his story as he had done before he was caught. It was entertaining but as you mention above kind of hard to believe this guy could gain a serial killers trust that easily, even if he was mentally slow.

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