If he retired today and you look at his statistics, based on who they’ve been putting in I’m convinced he gets in. Discuss.

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Zero chance

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who?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Nah. If he'd played his entire career in a Sox uniform he would have a better than average chance, as he'd have hit more Home runs. Likely would have exceeded 400. Plus there were whispers that he was a roids guy too, though if he were he was overshadowed by all of the other guys who were using during that era.

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He'd struggle to get in to the hall of the very very good.

Not even sure he makes it into the Subdivision hall of fame.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

You're attending Sox games, and now you are putting decent outfielder that has career fWAR similar to that of Chili Davis in the HOF

lay off the drugs dude

I never cared for the guy, but his BA was remarkably consistent until his last year, when he hit .255:

.319
.282
.301
.315
.305
.320
.317
.292
.302
.298
.363
.317
.310
.303

Slash line of .309/.369/.502, OPS+ of 125 (Baines was 121). Had just one peak year (2nd in MVP).

I'll give him Hall of Very Good, not HoF.

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Sheffield showed up with some of that post-Balco goodness. Sheffield spent 2 seasons in Detroit, late career Maggs hit 28 and 21 home runs those 2 seasons. Sheffield's gone after those 2 seasons and Maggs hits 9, 12, 5 home runs on his way to retirement.

Power hitter with under 300 career home runs. Easy answer=NO

That’s why I said if he retired today he’d go in .

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An easier case for the Hall could be made for El Caballo than Maggs if you ask me.

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I’m not sure Jerry will be around in 30 years to push him through the veterans committee.

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Easy. He hit for more Home Runs and had More RBIs. Plus he didn't have Roid allegations hovering over him throughout his career either.

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the career numbers are remarkably similar, but id say overall mags' are better considering a 1000 less ABs

Surprisingly similar batting numbers. Neither were good in the field, though Lee was able to hide a bit more in LF and 1B.

Maggs has the ASGs, MVP votes and the benefit of being the best player on a World Series team.

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Neither are going to Cooperstown, but we all have a bit of biased love for El Caballo. He was with the Sox for 2005 WS and it was fun watching him make a career of obliterating Cub pitching. Yes, he had more HR and RBI than Maggs, but Maggs was the better overall player.

Career Stats
Magglio Wins
BA.309 v. .285
OBP .369 v. .339
OPS .871 v. .821
WAR 38.8 v. 28.3
Average WAR 3.4 v. 2.3

Carloss Lee Wins
HR 294 v. 358
RBI 1236 v. 1363

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Carlos Lee avg nearly 100 runs driven in per season for his career. That is nothing to sneeze at.
Plus the roids allegations with Maggs were legitimate I believe. I remember seeing some before and after pictures of him and it sort of left no doubt that he was on steroids.

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Ordonez played the last seven years of his career in the cavernous Tiger Stadium, had he went to Houston like Carlos Lee did he easily would’ve equaled his home run total.

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Wut?

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No argument there. I think Maggs is definitely questionable.

I remember all the 2004 knee / medical bullshit well. Maggs was my guy up until all of that. He proved to be as big of a piece of shit as his agent Boras. Turns out Sox didn't need him.

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OMG THEY PLAY AT COMERICA HAHA !!!

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Pizza pizza guy moved the fences in when they were recruiting Maggs to jump to the Tigers in free agency and he complained about the dimensions.

Tigers gonna end up with 3 first ballot HoFer out of that era: Cabrera, I think Pudge got in on first ballot and Verlander's looking like he might make a run at 300, sitting at 241 after
getting his 15th win this season. 1.73 ERA 0.85 WHIP

.309 career avg over nearly 7000 at bats is pretty goddam good. Not legendary or HOF good, but still really good. 38.8 career WAR. Really good hitter, great career, but not close to Cooperstown.

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I really think it's time we legislate that the nickname "Pudge" is to only be used in referring to Carlton Fisk.
Fuck Ivan Rodriguez.

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This.

Also, no chance in hell on Magglio.

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Bench
Campanella
Fisk
Rodriguez

Are the top 4.

I was gonna say, fit Yogi in there somewhere: 3 MVPs, two 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th. But then you see the Yankee bias in those votes where his WAR is WAY below other players, and those achievements are questionable.

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Bad at catching. Maybe not bad, but average at best. Or so I was told. Same goes for Piazza.