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Fields has gotten nearly every rep; he should look better than the backup.


He still struggles to recognize coverages and anticipate openings. He has one season to improve significantly, or else the Bears will be drafting another QB with the #1 or #2 overall pick.

Everything I’ve seen about Fields today say he looked great :lol:


Whomever the hell does the local reporting for NBC sports put out a piece saying he shined and that the ball to Sharpe was a "dime". That was one monumental adjustment to a "dime".

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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky > fields

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Fields has gotten nearly every rep; he should look better than the backup.


Who needs reps


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Jets fans calling for Broadway Jimmy G...with Joe Flaccid on the roster + Mike White and this guy, oft injured Garoppolo probably looks like Tom Brady to Jets fans.


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Teams will be lining up to come to Soldier Field if the Bears leave because the Park District is such a great organization to partner with.


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Jack Sanborn is the man.


Looks like an absolute steal given that he went undrafted.

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Wisconsin players are awesome. No one will ever outwork them and they are almost always 2 star recruits entering college at best. Sanborn was outstanding as a Badger and not a single person in camp will outwork him but as always the athletes will pass him up and he will fade away. Not shockingly, the 2nd best performance by a Packer in the preseason game was by Danny Davis.....from....UW.

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Fields got hit on 5 or 6 of 18 plays against a mostly vanilla defense. Imagine what is going to happen against the 49ers in Week 1.

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Sanborn as the early nominee for the Johnny Bailey "rookie out of nowhere" award. Hopefully he doesn't die of pancreatic cancer like Bailey did, RIP.

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Fields got hit on 5 or 6 of 18 plays against a mostly vanilla defense. Imagine what is going to happen against the 49ers in Week 1.


They actually ran a few blitzes that were anything but vanilla.

He completed the pass to Sharpe on one of them.

He should have stepped up in the pocket on the Schoefield sack.

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Fields got hit on 5 or 6 of 18 plays against a mostly vanilla defense. Imagine what is going to happen against the 49ers in Week 1.


They actually ran a few blitzes that were anything but vanilla.

He completed the pass to Sharpe on one of them.

He should have stepped up in the pocket on the Schoefield sack.


"mostly vanilla"

All of the big completions I've seen from training camp and preseason are to the sidelines.

He seems reluctant or unable to throw to the middle of the field.

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Teams appeared to blitz more than normal this weekend. I wonder what caused this league wide shift.

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Teams appeared to blitz more than normal this weekend. I wonder what caused this league wide shift.


Probably lack of contact in practice.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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Fields got hit on 5 or 6 of 18 plays against a mostly vanilla defense. Imagine what is going to happen against the 49ers in Week 1.


They actually ran a few blitzes that were anything but vanilla.

He completed the pass to Sharpe on one of them.

He should have stepped up in the pocket on the Schoefield sack.


"mostly vanilla"

All of the big completions I've seen from training camp and preseason are to the sidelines.

He seems reluctant or unable to throw to the middle of the field.


Still a bit late in recognizing/taking check downs, but at least he is recognizing he needs to go to a check down which he rarely did last year.


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Problem solved


Won't they be doing the re-sodding about 7 or 8 days before the first game. Doesn't sod typically require 2-3 weeks to establish roots?

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Can see why they do not like Jenkins, very inconsistent effort, solid run blocker, but has the feet of a guard, so really susceptible to outside speed and quick inside counter moves making him a liability in pass pro. His NFL future is likely at guard, as is Borom's, the fact that they are starting a rookie and signed Reif tells you all you need to know about how they feel about Jenkins and Borom.

You can see exactly what they want to do on offense, the cutback lanes will be there all day, just not sure if Montgomery is the one cut downhill guy that can catch the ball they need.

First time in years a reverse actually worked, another thing that should work as a counter off the outside zone.

The scheme requires the QB to instantly see the mismatch or subtle alignment of the DB and then take the quick 5-7 yard check downs, and then take the shots that open up on the backside of plays when the DB's over commit, just not sure if Fields is the type of patient QB that will move the chains and then take advantage of the kill shots like the QB in GB has done running this scheme against the Bears for what seems like the past 10 years.

The D will be surprising, but will not really get where they need to be until they find a Tommie Harris type three technique DT and those guys are very, very hard to find.


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Fields seems incapable of taking the "easy" yards in the flats or over the middle. He's too slow to read the field and misses guys breaking free underneath. The offense changed as soon as Siemian came in because even though he's terrible, he can read a defense better than Fields.

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Fields got hit on 5 or 6 of 18 plays against a mostly vanilla defense. Imagine what is going to happen against the 49ers in Week 1.


They actually ran a few blitzes that were anything but vanilla.

He completed the pass to Sharpe on one of them.

He should have stepped up in the pocket on the Schoefield sack.


I was reviewing this play just now, and Mustipher gets destroyed by Deion Bush on the blitz. That guy is still terrible.

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Fields got hit on 5 or 6 of 18 plays against a mostly vanilla defense. Imagine what is going to happen against the 49ers in Week 1.


They actually ran a few blitzes that were anything but vanilla.

He completed the pass to Sharpe on one of them.

He should have stepped up in the pocket on the Schoefield sack.


I was reviewing this play just now, and Mustipher gets destroyed by Deion Bush on the blitz. That guy is still terrible.


I was lamenting the loss of Bush until I saw Ebner burn him on that TD pass.

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Won't they be doing the re-sodding about 7 or 8 days before the first game. Doesn't sod typically require 2-3 weeks to establish roots?


They completely re-sod Super Bowl playing surfaces week of. They've even re-sodded Super Bowl playing surfaces the night before.

You have to bring in already rooted grass with a few inches of the underlying soil. But that's SOP for competent groundskeepers. The Super Bowl natural grass playing surfaces are re-sodded using already deeply rooted sod from an Alabama sod farm that was initially seeded over a year before. But they've harvested sod + soil off of nearby soccer fields and dumped it into the Super Bowl's field hours before the game in situations where rehearsals or whatever fucked up the field. If the Soldier Field groundskeepers are going down to Lowe's and buying thin rolls of barely rooted sod to resurface, that's not going to hold up very well.


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Won't they be doing the re-sodding about 7 or 8 days before the first game. Doesn't sod typically require 2-3 weeks to establish roots?


They completely re-sod Super Bowl playing surfaces week of. They've even re-sodded Super Bowl playing surfaces the night before.

You have to bring in already rooted grass with a few inches of the underlying soil. But that's SOP for competent groundskeepers. The Super Bowl natural grass playing surfaces are re-sodded using already deeply rooted sod from an Alabama sod farm that was initially seeded over a year before. But they've harvested sod + soil off of nearby soccer fields and dumped it into the Super Bowl's field hours before the game in situations where rehearsals or whatever fucked up the field. If the Soldier Field groundskeepers are going down to Lowe's and buying thin rolls of barely rooted sod to resurface, that's not going to hold up very well.


I also can tell you this: The Soldier Field playing surface has been is a lot better and drawn a lot fewer complaints in recent years since the team switched to a grass farm in New Jersey and away from one it was using in Illinois. The sod now used, grown at Tuckahoe Turf Farms in Hammonton, N.J., has less clay and more sand, one reason why you saw sand on the field during the game. It’s there for a reason, and the playing surface is significantly better than it was when players, former kicker Robbie Gould included, would level complaints about it.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/b ... story.html

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This is the field that the Bears want. The park district has even offered to put down field turf.

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If your team's identity/game plan is defense and run, then a less than optimal playing surface might give you an advantage--or negate the other team's advantages some--over a team coming in with a precision passing game focused offense. Difficult for receivers to make cuts/get up enough speed to gain separation. Kinda like how the Anaheim Ducks would soften/chunk up their ice an extra bit when the Yzerman era Red Wings came to town.


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Sanborn as the early nominee for the Johnny Bailey "rookie out of nowhere" award. Hopefully he doesn't die of pancreatic cancer like Bailey did, RIP.


You took me on a roller coaster ride with those two sentences.

I can almost see in my mind's eye Bailey scoring in the pre season.

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Fields got hit on 5 or 6 of 18 plays against a mostly vanilla defense. Imagine what is going to happen against the 49ers in Week 1.


They actually ran a few blitzes that were anything but vanilla.

He completed the pass to Sharpe on one of them.

He should have stepped up in the pocket on the Schoefield sack.


I was reviewing this play just now, and Mustipher gets destroyed by Deion Bush on the blitz. That guy is still terrible.


I was lamenting the loss of Bush until I saw Ebner burn him on that TD pass.


He's a very good ST who can start in a pinch, kind of like Houston-Carson or Mc Mannis. You can roster him but you are in trouble if you expect him to start.

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I haven't seen much conversation about Eberflus' debut.

Very few penalties, won the TO battle, didn't have to burn timeouts getting plays in...I think we have a guy much more focused on the precision of his team's play. I don't think we have the offensive talent to win, but I think they will be kind of like Lovie's teams that will keep everything close, win a few with defensive TO, ST precision while losing a few because other team's have stars on their offense.

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If your team's identity/game plan is defense and run, then a less than optimal playing surface might give you an advantage--or negate the other team's advantages some--over a team coming in with a precision passing game focused offense. Difficult for receivers to make cuts/get up enough speed to gain separation. Kinda like how the Anaheim Ducks would soften/chunk up their ice an extra bit when the Yzerman era Red Wings came to town.


Aaron Rodgers recently commented that he loves playing at Soldier Field in December because the poor field conditions slow down the pass rush.

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