We all know why rogue hates Fields

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I agree that the 25 starts or whatever sample size target you want stops once it is evident that the guy isn't going to be a productive player. I totally agree. However, you need time to make that determination, hence the sample size. I can only guess the evaluators who matter are still tantalized by his potential, both as a runner and passer. They should stop the experiment once it is clear to them that he's not a viable starting QB and that further "corrections" aren't going to help him. So on that we agree.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

There's no alternative unless you really believe Siemian will figure things out THIS time. You give Fields the entire season.

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Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

Mind you own damn business! -VP Walz

Moving on in a flash would have involved trading him or bringing in competition at his position in the offseason. We're way past that point.

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Keeping Fields was a win-win situation for Poles from the start. If he plays well, you have a starting QB moving forward. If he plays poorly, you likely have a top 3-5 draft pick to select his replacement. And no one--well, almost no one--will fault you for using your first season as GM to evaluate a highly regarded prospect for whom the franchise gave up two first-round picks to acquire.

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Absolutely. Plus, winning a couple more games with Siemian does nothing for you except weaken your draft position. Siemian is not the QB of anyone's future.

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At this point you just need to lose games and hope for a top 3 pick.

But again this schedule is one that they can easily find themselves with a pick around 10.

It definitely sucks as a fan. I watched the end of the game yesterday and was pulling for a win and when that FG went through your inner meatball goes off. But then in a few mins you understand the reality of the situation.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I agree on Fields but I still think Poles dropped the ball on other skill positions. Unlike in the NBA, for example, you can be a Cinderella/come out of nowhere in the NFL. It's irresponsible to go into the season with a roster so bereft of talent like Poles did. And I think people make a false dichotomy when they rationalize Poles' decisions by saying the alternative was salary cap hell. It's not an either or thing.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Who were the skill position players you wanted the Bears to sign and why would they choose to play with Fields?

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Maybe the best thing would be to bench Fields for a week and see if he responds. To me, that’s accountability…not just empty words at the podium.

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DJ Chark, Russell Gage, and Landry were available. I don't know if Poles targeted them. All are better WRs than what we have. I don't know if what they would think about Fields, but the narrative about Fields was better/different during the summer than it is now.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Two of those guys received 1 year deals. They went to the place they thought would be best for them to receive a multi year deal. Gage went to play for the GOAT. MVS went to play with Mahomes.

Those players wouldn't change who Fields is. At best, they mask his incompetence. I'm not sure they would have done that. He looks lost.

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Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

Mind you own damn business! -VP Walz

I guess Eberflus needs to figure out which Fields can better handle: the humiliation of not playing, or the humiliation of playing.

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i kinda like that idea

Mitch got 4 years to prove it. They're going to give Fields at least one more season after this. Possibly 2, when is Arch in the draft anyhow. You don't spend 2 first round picks on a player and then give up on em that easily.

If Poles was the GM that drafted him then I would agree with you.

But since Poles had nothing to do with it then I do not think he will in any way feel that he has to give him much time. And he shouldn't. If he knows he is not the guy then you move on.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Mitch wasn't Mahomes or Mr Masseuse, but he played significantly better. Besides, Pace drafted Mitch. Poles or Eberflus don't have that cross to bear. They can immediately walk away. He may even have some trade value.

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Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

Mind you own damn business! -VP Walz

Based on how they are running their offense , they already know. These guys seem him for hours a week in practice. They already know what hes capable of doing .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

It definitely appears that way.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Right now, Fields is still Pace's problem.

If Poles keeps him after the 2022 season, Fields starts to become Poles' problem.

If Fields doesn't show significant growth this season, then it would be colossally stupid to retain him as the starter.

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so, show significant growth while throwing 10 passes a game

They tried to throw more passes than that. He ran on some and got sacked on others.

Despite the low official attempts, he's near the top of the league in interceptions.

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Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

Mind you own damn business! -VP Walz

He only threw 10 passes because he could not complete the majority of them. If he complete 7-10 then those numbers rise to 20 passes a game exc exc.

Of the Bears 12 possessions Fields only completed multiple passes in one of them.

and how many of those did he have to roll out and cut the field in half to identify his target. #bust

Josh Allen 2-1
Justin Fields 2-1
Tracy Lawrence 2-1
Pat Mahomes 2-1
Mac Jones 1-2
Zach Wilson 0-0
T Lance 0-1
Davis Mills 0-2-1

BAD

He doesn't trust himself because he can't read defenses. You can be brilliant in the classroom, but angry 300 pound men running at you can change that.

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Nas: Blago, who has single handedly destroyed CFMB?

Blago: https://youtube.com/shorts/Lftdxd-YXt8?feature=share

Mind you own damn business! -VP Walz

True. That pitch and catch with Mooney in June isn't quite the same in September.

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"I give you my word as a Biden"

I imagine now that defenses have plenty of NFL tape on Fields they can adjust their coverage and play to account for his strengths/weaknesses. It's only going to get more difficult for Fields if he can't learn to quickly read defenses, adjust and hit the spots they are giving him.