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Should of went with hot lesbians. I don't like watching sex scenes with one dude let alone 2. Dudes are gross.



I'm not interested in their romances either. I did see a dykey musical not long ago and I thought it was a pretty compelling piece of art. There was more to the story than just two lesbos fighting, breaking up, and getting back together.

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I'm not interested in their romances either. I did see a dykey musical not long ago and I thought it was a pretty compelling piece of art. There was more to the story than just two lesbos fighting, breaking up, and getting back together.


A movie based on sex or sexual orientation isn't compelling, there should be something more.


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I'm not interested in their romances either. I did see a dykey musical not long ago and I thought it was a pretty compelling piece of art. There was more to the story than just two lesbos fighting, breaking up, and getting back together.


A movie based on sex or sexual orientation isn't compelling, there should be something more.


It's not a Pornhub movie. I'm sure it's as compelling as most romantic comedies.

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October is for horror. Like I said, Interview with a Vampire tv and Dahmer were shows I watched this weekend that were chock full o the gay.

but even if I'm not the center of the universe, I assume both of those shows were heavily consumed by the US this weekend, including all those people he's scolding.

The default isn't that I'm supposed to watch whatever is offered.

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I can only think of 2.5 " gay fliks" I liked.

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October is for horror. Like I said, Interview with a Vampire tv and Dahmer were shows I watched this weekend that were chock full o the gay.


When is the rom-com month?

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October is for horror. Like I said, Interview with a Vampire tv and Dahmer were shows I watched this weekend that were chock full o the gay.


When is the rom-com month?


Valentine's Day through about April, I'd guess.

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I'm not interested in their romances either. I did see a dykey musical not long ago and I thought it was a pretty compelling piece of art. There was more to the story than just two lesbos fighting, breaking up, and getting back together.

There was a lesbian movie on the gay channel and I hung in for about 40 minutes. It was set in a boarding school and the hot teacher and the hot student hooked up. I was conflicted. The student was probably 16 but they were so happy and hot and there was no penis involved so it couldn't be predatory could it? Then a nun busted them and it got boring after that but I did find it thought provoking.


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I'm not interested in their romances either. I did see a dykey musical not long ago and I thought it was a pretty compelling piece of art. There was more to the story than just two lesbos fighting, breaking up, and getting back together.


A movie based on sex or sexual orientation isn't compelling, there should be something more.


It's not a Pornhub movie. I'm sure it's as compelling as all romantic comedies.


You're right about that but like Antioch asked, who is the target market for this? And that isn't even the real question, as I suspect the people that made it knew who the audience was. Or at least they should have. And because that audience simply isn't big enough they now blame The People. It's similar to what we were talking about when I said the Democrats blame The People for their losses. (Republicans don't do that, not because they're better, but because they actually like losing.)

Anyway, I know what I'm going to say now is considered "bigoted" in 2022, but it's true and all the shaming and whining won't make it less true. A man and a woman joining together and having children and building a life together and raising the next generation is pure nature. Homosexuality is an anomaly. When people watch or read fiction, there are a lot of assumptions being made and beliefs about what is happening off the page or out of the screen and what will happen when the movie/book has ended.

Happily ever after is imagining Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone at age 60 talking to their kids on the phone from a retirement cruise. It ain't imagining Billy Eichner and Luke MacFarlane hitting up a bathhouse in 25 years as wrinkly old men. At least not to most people. Those that do imagine the latter may enjoy the movie. But Eichner is complaining because there aren't enough of them for his movie to be financially successful.

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October is for horror. Like I said, Interview with a Vampire tv and Dahmer were shows I watched this weekend that were chock full o the gay.


When is the rom-com month?


Valentine's Day through about April, I'd guess.


I looked at the release dates of some of the most popular rom-coms and it's random. They release them in all seasons.

You/MANY of us don't want to watch this movie because it's about homosexual characters that we don't find attractive or can't relate to. There's no need to come up with a bunch of excuses. We're not perfect men.

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Nas wrote:
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October is for horror. Like I said, Interview with a Vampire tv and Dahmer were shows I watched this weekend that were chock full o the gay.


When is the rom-com month?


Valentine's Day through about April, I'd guess.


I looked at the release dates of some of the most popular rom-coms and it's random. They release them in all seasons.

You/MANY of us don't want to watch this movie because it's about homosexual characters that we don't find attractive or can't relate to. There's no need to come up with a bunch of excuses. We're not perfect men.


but I've already provided you compelling evidence for why this opinion is incorrect

Two entertainment offerings, with heavily gay themes (I'd argue both are centered around homosexuality) and graphic gay depictions were incredibly popular this weekend

I don't relate to Dahmer, Lestat or Louis.

and everyone knows each of these stories are going to be centered around homosexual eroticism going in, so its not like an audience is fooled

but on the other end of my argument, Smile and Don't Worry Darling, both either horror or horrorish, were #1-2 this weekend

Don't be so quick to buy excuses for people's failures. You don't do it with Fields. Why do you do it with Billy Eichner.

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A movie based on sex or sexual orientation isn't compelling, there should be something more.
The MANY who read and saw 50 Shades of Gray may disagree with you.

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October is for horror. Like I said, Interview with a Vampire tv and Dahmer were shows I watched this weekend that were chock full o the gay.


When is the rom-com month?


Valentine's Day through about April, I'd guess.


I looked at the release dates of some of the most popular rom-coms and it's random. They release them in all seasons.

You/MANY of us don't want to watch this movie because it's about homosexual characters that we don't find attractive or can't relate to. There's no need to come up with a bunch of excuses. We're not perfect men.


but I've already provided you compelling evidence for why this opinion is incorrect

Two entertainment offerings, with heavily gay themes (I'd argue both are centered around homosexuality) and graphic gay depictions were incredibly popular this weekend

I don't relate to Dahmer, Lestat or Louis.

and everyone knows each of these stories are going to be centered around homosexual eroticism going in, so its not like an audience is fooled


I've also watched a movie with gay characters, and I occasionally watch porn with a woman having sex with another woman. I'M NOT A BAD PERSON!

I wouldn't call your excuses compelling. Those aren't exactly homosexual love stories. How many gay love stories are you trying to consume?

The star of the movie was right. As a nation, we love romantic movies. That's why they make so many. This one probably hasn't been consumed because we're mostly homophobes.

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I don't think looking for Lesbo genres on porn sites makes you a bad person.

Now, your dual Cubs Sox fandom and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky thoughts on the other hand.....

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i dont think anyone needs a viable reason or explanation to provide beyond "it doesnt interest me" to not see a movie, regardless of the subject matter.

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i dont think anyone needs a viable reason or explanation to provide beyond "it doesnt interest me" to not see a movie, regardless of the subject matter.


That works for nearly all movies, but we'll ask why for some things.

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October is for horror. Like I said, Interview with a Vampire tv and Dahmer were shows I watched this weekend that were chock full o the gay.


When is the rom-com month?


Valentine's Day through about April, I'd guess.


I looked at the release dates of some of the most popular rom-coms and it's random. They release them in all seasons.

You/MANY of us don't want to watch this movie because it's about homosexual characters that we don't find attractive or can't relate to. There's no need to come up with a bunch of excuses. We're not perfect men.


but I've already provided you compelling evidence for why this opinion is incorrect

Two entertainment offerings, with heavily gay themes (I'd argue both are centered around homosexuality) and graphic gay depictions were incredibly popular this weekend

I don't relate to Dahmer, Lestat or Louis.

and everyone knows each of these stories are going to be centered around homosexual eroticism going in, so its not like an audience is fooled


I've also watched a movie with gay characters, and I occasionally watch porn with a woman having sex with another woman. I'M NOT A BAD PERSON!

I wouldn't call your excuses compelling. Those aren't exactly homosexual love stories. How many gay love stories are you trying to consume?

The star of the movie was right. As a nation, we love romantic movies. That's why they make so many. This one probably hasn't been consumed because we're mostly homophobes.


Interview with a Vampire isn't a homosexual love story? No one familiar with the story would make that statement.

and Dahmer isn't a love story but it is undoubtedly centered around homosexuality. It's a central theme of the show.

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i dont think anyone needs a viable reason or explanation to provide beyond "it doesnt interest me" to not see a movie, regardless of the subject matter.


That works for nearly all movies, but we'll ask why for some things.



ask away. but you cant expect or demand an answer and be upset if it is not provided or suitable on your criteria

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The star of the movie was right. As a nation, we love romantic movies. That's why they make so many. This one probably hasn't been consumed because we're mostly homophobes.
Isn't the success of romcoms mostly because female audiences interject themselves as the main character? I'm not interested in this movie just like I'm not interested in watching Pretty Woman or the countless movies and shows about people sleeping with people they work for but in a cute way like Richard Gere and not a gross way like Matt Lauer.

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i dont think anyone needs a viable reason or explanation to provide beyond "it doesnt interest me" to not see a movie, regardless of the subject matter.


That works for nearly all movies, but we'll ask why for some things.



ask away. but you cant expect or demand an answer and be upset if it is not provided or suitable on your criteria


You shouldn't, but that's not the world we live in. We demand that everyone share our views or we place them into a box like I'm doing with good dolphin and JORR.

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So it’s a rom-com that targeted gays instead of women.

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Nas wrote:
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i dont think anyone needs a viable reason or explanation to provide beyond "it doesnt interest me" to not see a movie, regardless of the subject matter.


That works for nearly all movies, but we'll ask why for some things.



ask away. but you cant expect or demand an answer and be upset if it is not provided or suitable on your criteria


You shouldn't, but that's not the world we live in. We demand that everyone share our views or we place them into a box like I'm doing with good dolphin and JORR.


Billy Eichner is lashing out because HE failed, just as you are doing with your argument. That's one of the first steps of grieving.

It's a coping mechanism because the alternative is to recognize the problem may have been with him. It's understandable and I feel for him but I'm not going to indulge it.

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The star of the movie was right. As a nation, we love romantic movies. That's why they make so many. This one probably hasn't been consumed because we're mostly homophobes.
Isn't the success of romcoms mostly because female audiences interject themselves as the main character? I'm not interested in this movie just like I'm not interested in watching Pretty Woman or the countless movies and shows about people sleeping with people they work for but in a cute way like Richard Gere and not a gross way like Matt Lauer.


Yes, but they do that for every movie. :wink:

They targeted women/homosexuals with this movie. Some men will watch it because they're curious, and others will be forced to watch it by the woman in their life. The star "complaining" was done to get people to talk about the movie. That's precisely what we are doing. Ultimately, some will watch it because it is being discussed. #Economics

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i dont think anyone needs a viable reason or explanation to provide beyond "it doesnt interest me" to not see a movie, regardless of the subject matter.


That works for nearly all movies, but we'll ask why for some things.



ask away. but you cant expect or demand an answer and be upset if it is not provided or suitable on your criteria


You shouldn't, but that's not the world we live in. We demand that everyone share our views or we place them into a box like I'm doing with good dolphin and JORR.


Billy Eichner is lashing out because HE failed, just as you are doing with your argument. That's one of the first steps of grieving.

It's a coping mechanism because the alternative is to recognize the problem may have been with him. It's understandable and I feel for him but I'm not going to indulge it.


I didn't fail, and it doesn't look like Billy has, either. He's gotten us to discuss a movie we may not have known existed. Some of us will watch it.

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The star of the movie was right. As a nation, we love romantic movies. That's why they make so many. This one probably hasn't been consumed because we're mostly homophobes.
Isn't the success of romcoms mostly because female audiences interject themselves as the main character? I'm not interested in this movie just like I'm not interested in watching Pretty Woman or the countless movies and shows about people sleeping with people they work for but in a cute way like Richard Gere and not a gross way like Matt Lauer.


Yes, but they do that for every movie. :wink:

They targeted women/homosexuals with this movie. Some men will watch it because they're curious, and others will be forced to watch it by the woman in their life. The star "complaining" was done to get people to talk about the movie. That's precisely what we are doing. Ultimately, some will watch it because it is being discussed. #Economics


If it doesn't make back its money in something like the first weekend, its a bomb. No amount of post bitching is going to change that.

He's upset because it is a bomb, which means he won't get a second shot, which means his career path is as a supporting person for the rest of his life. That's brutal to have to deal with...and even rougher when someone wants to interview about it while the pain is fresh

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Nas wrote:
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i dont think anyone needs a viable reason or explanation to provide beyond "it doesnt interest me" to not see a movie, regardless of the subject matter.


That works for nearly all movies, but we'll ask why for some things.



ask away. but you cant expect or demand an answer and be upset if it is not provided or suitable on your criteria


You shouldn't, but that's not the world we live in. We demand that everyone share our views or we place them into a box like I'm doing with good dolphin and JORR.


Billy Eichner is lashing out because HE failed, just as you are doing with your argument. That's one of the first steps of grieving.

It's a coping mechanism because the alternative is to recognize the problem may have been with him. It's understandable and I feel for him but I'm not going to indulge it.


I didn't fail, and it doesn't look like Billy has, either. He's gotten us to discuss a movie we may not have known existed. Some of us will watch it.


only because you are goofing on me and I'm playing the part of the fool

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Who’s the target market for this thing?


Guys, do you want to create a bar that addresses the market that we're in? Or do you just want to create a monument to yourself? C'mon!

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The star of the movie was right. As a nation, we love romantic movies. That's why they make so many. This one probably hasn't been consumed because we're mostly homophobes.
Isn't the success of romcoms mostly because female audiences interject themselves as the main character? I'm not interested in this movie just like I'm not interested in watching Pretty Woman or the countless movies and shows about people sleeping with people they work for but in a cute way like Richard Gere and not a gross way like Matt Lauer.


Yes, but they do that for every movie. :wink:

They targeted women/homosexuals with this movie. Some men will watch it because they're curious, and others will be forced to watch it by the woman in their life. The star "complaining" was done to get people to talk about the movie. That's precisely what we are doing. Ultimately, some will watch it because it is being discussed. #Economics


If it doesn't make back its money in something like the first weekend, its a bomb. No amount of post bitching is going to change that.

He's upset because it is a bomb, which means he won't get a second shot, which means his career path is as a supporting person for the rest of his life. That's brutal to have to deal with...and even rougher when someone wants to interview about it while the pain is fresh


That may have been true "yesterday", but I don't think those rules apply today. Most movies succeed or fail because of their marketing dollars. Others have success because they find alternative ways to create a buzz. This guy has a large portion of the country discussing his movie. There will be a return on that investment.

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Billy Eichner is lashing out because HE failed, just as you are doing with your argument. That's one of the first steps of grieving.

It's a coping mechanism because the alternative is to recognize the problem may have been with him. It's understandable and I feel for him but I'm not going to indulge it.


I mostly agree. If this movie fails it's not because of the audience or a rejection of homosexuality. There are movies as mentioned that have succeeded and TV shows like Modern Family, Will and Grace, Glee, Schitt's Creek, that were all mainstream and popular. This movie if it was good should be able to draw from that audience. I liked The New Normal early 2010s but that didn't make it, I think that was a weird year for TV.


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