That may have been true "yesterday", but I don't think those rules apply today. Most movies succeed or fail because of their marketing dollars. Others have success because they find alternative ways to create a buzz. This guy has a large portion of the country discussing his movie. There will be a return on that investment.

You're right about that but like Antioch asked, who is the target market for this? And that isn't even the real question, as I suspect the people that made it knew who the audience was. Or at least they should have. And because that audience simply isn't big enough they now blame The People. It's similar to what we were talking about when I said the Democrats blame The People for their losses. (Republicans don't do that, not because they're better, but because they actually like losing.)

Anyway, I know what I'm going to say now is considered "bigoted" in 2022, but it's true and all the shaming and whining won't make it less true. A man and a woman joining together and having children and building a life together and raising the next generation is pure nature. Homosexuality is an anomaly. When people watch or read fiction, there are a lot of assumptions being made and beliefs about what is happening off the page or out of the screen and what will happen when the movie/book has ended.

Happily ever after is imagining Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone at age 60 talking to their kids on the phone from a retirement cruise. It ain't imagining Billy Eichner and Luke MacFarlane hitting up a bathhouse in 25 years as wrinkly old men. At least not to most people. Those that do imagine the latter may enjoy the movie. But Eichner is complaining because there aren't enough of them for his movie to be financially successful.

I like Billy on the Street but Eichner is no star.

Nas, you have become a rom-com expert. What was the last genre hit that didn't have a star?

Successful rom-coms make stars. Playing a compelling homosexual character does as well. This Billy guy has a couple of things working for him.

I mostly agree. If this movie fails it's not because of the audience or a rejection of homosexuality. There are movies as mentioned that have succeeded and TV shows like Modern Family, Will and Grace, Glee, Schitt's Creek, that were all mainstream and popular. This movie if it was good should be able to draw from that audience. I liked The New Normal early 2010s but that didn't make it, I think that was a weird year for TV.

The filmmakers live in the bubble of the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah known as NYC and LA, thus they didn't know that outside their relatively tiny circles there would be little much interest in the film. Most people in Omaha don't know what Stonewall is. And you certainly can't sell it in China.

We lose a lot of rights when we look the other way when it doesn't affect our lives or it isn't a cause we agree with.

The filmmakers live in the bubble of the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah known as NYC and LA, thus they didn't know that outside their relatively tiny circles there would be little much interest in the film. Most people in Omaha don't know what Stonewall is. And you certainly can't sell it in China.

Gay and straight experiences aren’t interchangeable, he says, and it’s ridiculous to expect the former to conform to Hollywood’s monogamy-minded feel-good imperatives.

“Love is not love,” Bobby declares, demolishing a common bit of throw-pillow wisdom and setting “Bros” itself a pretty tricky challenge. This movie knows precisely what it is — a rare same-sex romantic comedy released by a major studio — and as such, it also knows it’s duty-bound to both challenge and uphold certain conventions. It must thumb its nose at what Bobby dismisses as staid heteronormative ideals (monogamy, marriage, etc.) while still giving us a couple worth rooting for beyond the length of a four-way orgy, to name one (actually two) of the movie’s bawdier set pieces.

A lot of black/Tyler Perry movies have "success" because they're targeting a small group of people who crave the content. They aren't judging their success on how well they do with every demographic group. A movie with homosexuality is going to appeal to more people than a movie about homosexuality. I'm sure the people who made this movie understood their target audience was relatively small.

You're right about that but like Antioch asked, who is the target market for this? And that isn't even the real question, as I suspect the people that made it knew who the audience was. Or at least they should have. And because that audience simply isn't big enough they now blame The People. It's similar to what we were talking about when I said the Democrats blame The People for their losses. (Republicans don't do that, not because they're better, but because they actually like losing.)

Anyway, I know what I'm going to say now is considered "bigoted" in 2022, but it's true and all the shaming and whining won't make it less true. A man and a woman joining together and having children and building a life together and raising the next generation is pure nature. Homosexuality is an anomaly. When people watch or read fiction, there are a lot of assumptions being made and beliefs about what is happening off the page or out of the screen and what will happen when the movie/book has ended.

Happily ever after is imagining Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone at age 60 talking to their kids on the phone from a retirement cruise. It ain't imagining Billy Eichner and Luke MacFarlane hitting up a bathhouse in 25 years as wrinkly old men. At least not to most people. Those that do imagine the latter may enjoy the movie. But Eichner is complaining because there aren't enough of them for his movie to be financially successful.

Gay and straight experiences aren’t interchangeable, he says, and it’s ridiculous to expect the former to conform to Hollywood’s monogamy-minded feel-good imperatives.

A lot of black/Tyler Perry movies have "success" because they're targeting a small group of people who crave the content. They aren't judging their success on how well they do with every demographic group. A movie with homosexuality is going to appeal to more people than a movie about homosexuality. I'm sure the people who made this movie understood their target audience was relatively small.

I've never seen a Tyler Perry movie but you just made me wonder how this movie did in homosexual dominated Atlanta? I'd bet not too well.

A lot of black/Tyler Perry movies have "success" because they're targeting a small group of people who crave the content. They aren't judging their success on how well they do with every demographic group. A movie with homosexuality is going to appeal to more people than a movie about homosexuality. I'm sure the people who made this movie understood their target audience was relatively small.

Call me old fashioned but I like my crossdressing actors to be straight men like Martin Lawrence and Tyler Perry.

Call me old fashioned but I like my crossdressing actors to be straight men like Martin Lawrence and Tyler Perry.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

I saw a few of his plays back in the day and watched most of his movies. I thought his Madea character was funny in a theater. Outside of bad costumes, he is clearly selling "black men ain't shit" to his audience. They're eating it up despite Perry making the same movie in a bunch of different ways.

Tyler Perry lives in the perfect location for his sexuality.

Are you suggesting the Ethiopian supermodel was a beard?

Yes.

This Eichner guy just sounds like an asshole who is salty about his movie flopping. Simple as that. I never even saw a preview for it. Regardless, who tf is going to pay to see a rom com in theater? No thanks.

This goof insults half the country and calls LGBT+ conservatives traitors. I wonder who he is more mad at the conservatives that didn't go see his movie or the liberals that didn't go see his movie. This dude seems like something else.

This goof insults half the country and calls LGBT+ conservatives traitors. I wonder who he is more mad at the conservatives that didn't go see his movie or the liberals that didn't go see his movie. This dude seems like something else.