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Parkins and the gang have been discussing this. They believe that Hahn is completely against Ozzie being hired and that JR is kinda neutral in all of it. He is not pro Ozzie and he is not anti Ozzie. Surely it wouldn't be Kenny that is pushing to hire Ozzie? It definitely seems that someone is trying to push in that direction

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It definitely seems that someone is trying to push in that direction
Its not the majority of the fans. I don't really care either way if Ozzie returns or not. But MANY fans don't want him at all.

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Put me in the group that doesn’t want Ozzie.

I don’t understand why he’d even be considered at this point.

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I don’t understand why he’d even be considered at this point.
Probably because he's the opposite of what TLR did last season. Ozzie certainly wouldn't be falling asleep in the dugout, or batting Vaughn 7th.

The time to bring in Ozzie was last year in June. Sox make the playoffs if that had happened. Whether they would still be playing or not I have no idea but Ozzie definitely would have given the 2022 club the extra 5-7 wins needed to make the playoffs IMO

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Parkins and the gang have been discussing this. They believe that Hahn is completely against Ozzie being hired and that JR is kinda neutral in all of it. He is not pro Ozzie and he is not anti Ozzie. Surely it wouldn't be Kenny that is pushing to hire Ozzie? It definitely seems that someone is trying to push in that direction



If the story is even true I think it would have to be Hahn pushing for Ozzie and Kenny and Jerry against it.

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Parkins and the gang have been discussing this. They believe that Hahn is completely against Ozzie being hired and that JR is kinda neutral in all of it. He is not pro Ozzie and he is not anti Ozzie. Surely it wouldn't be Kenny that is pushing to hire Ozzie? It definitely seems that someone is trying to push in that direction



If the story is even true I think it would have to be Hahn pushing for Ozzie and Kenny and Jerry against it.

Idk. The one thing that seemed set on was that Hahn was not in favor of Ozzie. But who knows.

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Parkins and the gang have been discussing this. They believe that Hahn is completely against Ozzie being hired and that JR is kinda neutral in all of it. He is not pro Ozzie and he is not anti Ozzie. Surely it wouldn't be Kenny that is pushing to hire Ozzie? It definitely seems that someone is trying to push in that direction



If the story is even true I think it would have to be Hahn pushing for Ozzie and Kenny and Jerry against it.

Idk. The one thing that seemed set on was that Hahn was not in favor of Ozzie. But who knows.

It's Kenny and JR who had the personality clash. Why would Hahn be dead set against it? He's the guy who demands managerial experience.

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Parkins and the gang have been discussing this. They believe that Hahn is completely against Ozzie being hired and that JR is kinda neutral in all of it. He is not pro Ozzie and he is not anti Ozzie. Surely it wouldn't be Kenny that is pushing to hire Ozzie? It definitely seems that someone is trying to push in that direction



If the story is even true I think it would have to be Hahn pushing for Ozzie and Kenny and Jerry against it.

I think the reason Ozzie left is because he lost a power struggle to Kenny.

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Parkins and the gang have been discussing this. They believe that Hahn is completely against Ozzie being hired and that JR is kinda neutral in all of it. He is not pro Ozzie and he is not anti Ozzie. Surely it wouldn't be Kenny that is pushing to hire Ozzie? It definitely seems that someone is trying to push in that direction



If the story is even true I think it would have to be Hahn pushing for Ozzie and Kenny and Jerry against it.

I think the reason Ozzie left is because he lost a power struggle to Kenny.

Ozzie fired himself with his bullshit.

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Uncle Jerry wouldn't hire Ozzie against the wishes of his black son. The media's Friends of Ozzie are pushing him.

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Parkins and the gang have been discussing this. They believe that Hahn is completely against Ozzie being hired and that JR is kinda neutral in all of it. He is not pro Ozzie and he is not anti Ozzie. Surely it wouldn't be Kenny that is pushing to hire Ozzie? It definitely seems that someone is trying to push in that direction



If the story is even true I think it would have to be Hahn pushing for Ozzie and Kenny and Jerry against it.

I think the reason Ozzie left is because he lost a power struggle to Kenny.

Ozzie fired himself with his bullshit.

Because he was arguing with KW for three straight years

KW is the bad guy here.

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
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Parkins and the gang have been discussing this. They believe that Hahn is completely against Ozzie being hired and that JR is kinda neutral in all of it. He is not pro Ozzie and he is not anti Ozzie. Surely it wouldn't be Kenny that is pushing to hire Ozzie? It definitely seems that someone is trying to push in that direction



If the story is even true I think it would have to be Hahn pushing for Ozzie and Kenny and Jerry against it.

I think the reason Ozzie left is because he lost a power struggle to Kenny.

Ozzie fired himself with his bullshit.

Because he was arguing with KW for three straight years

KW is the bad guy here.
You don't blow off steam publicly and/or have your kid do it. Ozzie knew he'd get another job almost instantly.

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Uncle Jerry wouldn't hire Ozzie against the wishes of his black son. The media's Friends of Ozzie are pushing him.


Probably true.

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
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Parkins and the gang have been discussing this. They believe that Hahn is completely against Ozzie being hired and that JR is kinda neutral in all of it. He is not pro Ozzie and he is not anti Ozzie. Surely it wouldn't be Kenny that is pushing to hire Ozzie? It definitely seems that someone is trying to push in that direction



If the story is even true I think it would have to be Hahn pushing for Ozzie and Kenny and Jerry against it.

I think the reason Ozzie left is because he lost a power struggle to Kenny.

Ozzie fired himself with his bullshit.

Because he was arguing with KW for three straight years

KW is the bad guy here.


There's plenty of blame to go around. Don't forget how Ozzie quit on the team. Also, Drake LaRoche is a joke but we're supposed to take the Guillen brats seriously.

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What is it people actually like about Ozzie? I don’t remember him as particularly good at anything, to the extent managing matters.

He just liked to talk about himself because he’s an asshole and a narcissist. That was typically mistook as him taking heat off the team or some nonsense. Then he’d send one of his failsons out there to bitch & complain.

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What is it people actually like about Ozzie? I don’t remember him as particularly good at anything, to the extent managing matters.

He just liked to talk about himself because he’s an asshole and a narcissist. That was typically mistook as him taking heat off the team or some nonsense. Then he’d send one of his failsons out there to bitch & complain.


He is baseball Ditka.

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What is it people actually like about Ozzie? I don’t remember him as particularly good at anything, to the extent managing matters.

He just liked to talk about himself because he’s an asshole and a narcissist. That was typically mistook as him taking heat off the team or some nonsense. Then he’d send one of his failsons out there to bitch & complain.

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What is it people actually like about Ozzie? I don’t remember him as particularly good at anything, to the extent managing matters.

He just liked to talk about himself because he’s an asshole and a narcissist. That was typically mistook as him taking heat off the team or some nonsense. Then he’d send one of his failsons out there to bitch & complain.


I always thought that "taking heat off the team" thing was bullshit as well. He loves having people hanging on his every word. In 2020's America, how long does he go before he says something that outrages everyone and creates a total shit show?


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What is it people actually like about Ozzie? I don’t remember him as particularly good at anything, to the extent managing matters.

He just liked to talk about himself because he’s an asshole and a narcissist. That was typically mistook as him taking heat off the team or some nonsense. Then he’d send one of his failsons out there to bitch & complain.


He is baseball Ditka.



Agree. But that may be exactly what this team full of moribund losers needs right now.

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What is it people actually like about Ozzie? I don’t remember him as particularly good at anything, to the extent managing matters.

He just liked to talk about himself because he’s an asshole and a narcissist. That was typically mistook as him taking heat off the team or some nonsense. Then he’d send one of his failsons out there to bitch & complain.


I agree with that. Ozzie just loves himself and hear himself talk The problem is that he doesn't talk very well and he does it too much.

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What is it people actually like about Ozzie? I don’t remember him as particularly good at anything, to the extent managing matters.

He just liked to talk about himself because he’s an asshole and a narcissist. That was typically mistook as him taking heat off the team or some nonsense. Then he’d send one of his failsons out there to bitch & complain.


He is baseball Ditka.



Agree. But that may be exactly what this team full of moribund losers needs right now.



They should have hired Bochey when they had the chance. Probably would have cost too much for Reinny's taste though.

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I would say if Ozzie was hired we would have his best effort to Red Foreman this collection of underachievers. Maybe it won't work, but I believe he's sincere in that he really thinks he could make a difference.

There are much worse hires than Ozzie. I'm ok if it happens, but I struggle with JR allowing it. All of the negatives stated about him loving attention and using his kids to cry stupid are entirely accurate. He really was an idiot the last 2 seasons. I think he's hungry to get back in....that alone is intriguing.

and yes....his media friends are lobbying for him hard. It's pretty obvious. I could see JR hiring someone else as a retaliation for the lobbying.

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Ozzie has been humbled. He knew he could quickly get another job. There are no more managerial jobs if he fucks up again.

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Ozzie has been humbled. He knew he could quickly get another job. There are no more managerial jobs if he fucks up again.

Agreed. He also knows the White Sox are his only chance of managing again.

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I don't think that's fair. IMO, Ozzie got the most he could out of those teams. A WS title, 90 wins, division title in a 4 year stretch. After 2008/2009, the Sox roster wasn't good enough to win.

Ditka should have made one more Super Bowl at least. If somebody were to argue he should have made two more and gone 1-1 at worst, I wouldn't argue against it.

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Ozzie has been humbled. He knew he could quickly get another job. There are no more managerial jobs if he fucks up again.

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Ozzie has been humbled. He knew he could quickly get another job. There are no more managerial jobs if he fucks up again.

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In that he will do his job and not go into Diva mode. I could be wrong though.

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Ozzie has been humbled. He knew he could quickly get another job. There are no more managerial jobs if he fucks up again.

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In that he will do his job and not go into Diva mode. I could be wrong though.

He could barely get through a postgame show without talking about himself. I’m not sure why that ego would deflate if you gave him a clubhouse.

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