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This is a good conversation. I think what Rogan is missing and what Walsh failed to arrticulate is that, yeah, we can define marriage anyway we want, we can set whatever standards we choose, but if Rogan's definition and beliefs widely prevail, you are going to have a completely different country/society than the one you've known.
Why would have a different country/society if gay marriage was finally allowed?

We give extra rights to people who get married. Tax benefits, credit advantages, privacy laws, inheritance and a whole lot of other things. Why should someone who happens to be gay not be able to enjoy those same rights?

The fight against gay marriage is to punish gay people for being gay. Society is better off with gay marriage.



That's wrong. You can leave gays out of it if you want.

It's about the family being the building block of our society. Either it is or it isn't.

And here we are again, where everyone knows this on some level which is why it's such a CFMB taboo to "bring family into it" but gay jokes are allowed or even encouraged.


Your attack on gay, lesbian, and trans married people is weak. For starters, MANY gay, trans, and lesbian folks have kids. Either biological or adopted. You aren't being critical of people like yourself who are in a traditional marriage, but don't have kids. Either because you couldn't produce them or chose not to. Also, I doubt Mrs JORR would accept that you all don't have a family because you don't have children.

Edit: Atheist JORR fighting for the sanctity of marriage and apparently to annul his marriage is something.


I have made no "attack" on anyone. But you're making one on me. That's fine though.

The discussion is about marriage and what it is and why it exists at all.

I have obviously judged myself in the course of the discussion. And I'll state once again, if everyone were like my wife and me the future wouldn't look too bright.

Finally, I don't think the existence of God has to enter into the discussion.

I'm arguing that the point of marriage is as a platform for stable families within which to raise children. As gays and lesbians can't have children there is no need for them to marry.

What do you think the point of marriage is?


Like all species, we need to reproduce or we'll go extinct. The purpose of every iteration of marriage hasn't been to reproduce. BRick laid out the reasons MANY people get married. You're enjoying them right now.

MANY lesbian couples have children. MANY gay couples have children. Like you, MANY lesbian and gay couples enjoy the perks of marriage without kids. There's a beautiful balance.

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The point of marriage is religious . And females are desperate to suck the life out of dudes and dudes are desperate to touch a vagina so they let their lives be ruined by horrible women

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JORR...you and I both married a second time around and If I'm not mistaken, children were not a factor for you?
In my case....we both had kids from prior marriages, but they were all at or near emancipation. My wife and got married because we got to the point where it seemed awkward NOT being married. Again....our kids were a factor of zero.

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JORR...you and I both married a second time around and If I'm not mistaken, children were not a factor for you?
In my case....we both had kids from prior marriages, but they were all at or near emancipation. My wife and got married because we got to the point where it seemed awkward NOT being married. Again....our kids were a factor of zero.


Right. In the case of my wife and me, neither of us ever wanted to have kids. But I'm not talking about this on a personal level or about specific marriages. I think the discussion is about what the general purpose of the institution of marriage is.

Of course, my viewpoint is informed to some degree by my Catholic upbringing. How could it not be? Advertising works. But that raises the larger question about the foundations of our society and the crucial role Christianity plays in it.

It's odd that it was only a few short years ago that a progressive scion like Barack Obama didn't see the need for gay marriage, yet now that position is seen as outre and "hateful." Obama abandoned his position, likely for political reasons.

When you make those kind of changes to something as elemental to society as marriage, you are going to radically change that society. You may not notice it right away but it's happening right under your nose.

And now there are less marriages than ever. Because marriage doesn't really mean anything. Or it means whatever you want it to mean which is to say nothing at all.

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What do you think the point of marriage is?
Security and asset management.


All due respect, I think most people would disagree with you.

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What do you think the point of marriage is?
Security and asset management.


All due respect, I think most people would disagree with you.


I agree with your sentiment JORR, but I believe that Brick may be correct here.

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What do you think the point of marriage is?
Security and asset management.


All due respect, I think most people would disagree with you.

Even the standard religious based wedding vows spend most of it referencing those two things.

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What do you think the point of marriage is?
Security and asset management.


All due respect, I think most people would disagree with you.

Even the standard religious based wedding vows spend most of it referencing those two things.


You and Link commenting on religion is like Bob and Frank teaching quantum physics. :lol:

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The point of marriage is religious


The Mesopotamians would disagree with you Ike.

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JORR...you and I both married a second time around and If I'm not mistaken, children were not a factor for you?
In my case....we both had kids from prior marriages, but they were all at or near emancipation. My wife and got married because we got to the point where it seemed awkward NOT being married. Again....our kids were a factor of zero.


Right. In the case of my wife and me, neither of us ever wanted to have kids. But I'm not talking about this on a personal level or about specific marriages. I think the discussion is about what the general purpose of the institution of marriage is.

Of course, my viewpoint is informed to some degree by my Catholic upbringing. How could it not be? Advertising works. But that raises the larger question about the foundations of our society and the crucial role Christianity plays in it.

It's odd that it was only a few short years ago that a progressive scion like Barack Obama didn't see the need for gay marriage, yet now that position is seen as outre and "hateful." Obama abandoned his position, likely for political reasons.

When you make those kind of changes to something as elemental to society as marriage, you are going to radically change that society. You may not notice it right away but it's happening right under your nose.


And now there are less marriages than ever. Because marriage doesn't really mean anything. Or it means whatever you want it to mean which is to say nothing at all.


Our country is constantly evolving. Not long ago my kids and Crest kids couldn't get married even if they loved one another and wanted to have 30 kids. Then radical change happened, and it became legal. Why do you want to relitigate something that was decided years ago?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
What do you think the point of marriage is?
Security and asset management.


All due respect, I think most people would disagree with you.

Even the standard religious based wedding vows spend most of it referencing those two things.


You and Link commenting on religion is like Bob and Frank teaching quantum physics. :lol:

I've been to a lot of religious weddings.

"for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part."
Security and asset management right there but in a nicer sounding manner.

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JORR...you and I both married a second time around and If I'm not mistaken, children were not a factor for you?
In my case....we both had kids from prior marriages, but they were all at or near emancipation. My wife and got married because we got to the point where it seemed awkward NOT being married. Again....our kids were a factor of zero.


Right. In the case of my wife and me, neither of us ever wanted to have kids. But I'm not talking about this on a personal level or about specific marriages. I think the discussion is about what the general purpose of the institution of marriage is.

Of course, my viewpoint is informed to some degree by my Catholic upbringing. How could it not be? Advertising works. But that raises the larger question about the foundations of our society and the crucial role Christianity plays in it.

It's odd that it was only a few short years ago that a progressive scion like Barack Obama didn't see the need for gay marriage, yet now that position is seen as outre and "hateful." Obama abandoned his position, likely for political reasons.

When you make those kind of changes to something as elemental to society as marriage, you are going to radically change that society. You may not notice it right away but it's happening right under your nose.


And now there are less marriages than ever. Because marriage doesn't really mean anything. Or it means whatever you want it to mean which is to say nothing at all.


Our country is constantly evolving. Not long ago my kids and Crest kids couldn't get married even if they loved one another and wanted to have 30 kids. Then radical change happened, and it became legal. Why do you want to relitigate something that was decided years ago?


We're having a philosophical conversation. Personally, I don't care one way or another. I'm almost 60 years old and I have no kids. Make whatever world you want.

But I certainly don't think that the definition of marriage that has been used since the time of the Bible can just be tossed aside without consequences. Not every change is positive.

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Brick wrote:
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Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
What do you think the point of marriage is?
Security and asset management.


All due respect, I think most people would disagree with you.

Even the standard religious based wedding vows spend most of it referencing those two things.


You and Link commenting on religion is like Bob and Frank teaching quantum physics. :lol:

I've been to a lot of religious weddings.

"for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part."
Security and asset management right there but in a nicer sounding manner.



CLASSIC BRICK POST. ^ :lol: :lol:

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Brick wrote:
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Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
What do you think the point of marriage is?
Security and asset management.


All due respect, I think most people would disagree with you.

Even the standard religious based wedding vows spend most of it referencing those two things.


You and Link commenting on religion is like Bob and Frank teaching quantum physics. :lol:

I've been to a lot of religious weddings.

"for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part."
Security and asset management right there but in a nicer sounding manner.



Like I said... :lol:

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Not long ago my kids and Crest kids couldn't get married even if they loved one another and wanted to have 30 kids.
Your kids can do better, Nas.

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JORR...you and I both married a second time around and If I'm not mistaken, children were not a factor for you?
In my case....we both had kids from prior marriages, but they were all at or near emancipation. My wife and got married because we got to the point where it seemed awkward NOT being married. Again....our kids were a factor of zero.


Right. In the case of my wife and me, neither of us ever wanted to have kids. But I'm not talking about this on a personal level or about specific marriages. I think the discussion is about what the general purpose of the institution of marriage is.

Of course, my viewpoint is informed to some degree by my Catholic upbringing. How could it not be? Advertising works. But that raises the larger question about the foundations of our society and the crucial role Christianity plays in it.

It's odd that it was only a few short years ago that a progressive scion like Barack Obama didn't see the need for gay marriage, yet now that position is seen as outre and "hateful." Obama abandoned his position, likely for political reasons.

When you make those kind of changes to something as elemental to society as marriage, you are going to radically change that society. You may not notice it right away but it's happening right under your nose.


And now there are less marriages than ever. Because marriage doesn't really mean anything. Or it means whatever you want it to mean which is to say nothing at all.


Our country is constantly evolving. Not long ago my kids and Crest kids couldn't get married even if they loved one another and wanted to have 30 kids. Then radical change happened, and it became legal. Why do you want to relitigate something that was decided years ago?


We're having a philosophical conversation. Personally, I don't care one way or another. I'm almost 60 years old and I have no kids. Make whatever world you want.

But I certainly don't think that the definition of marriage that has been used since the time of the Bible can just be tossed aside without consequences. Not every change is positive.


You know the Bible doesn't say you have to have kids to be married. Our Christian nation doesn't either. You're also ignoring the fact that gay and lesbian couples can have children.

You can decide to have a child 15 years from now. That's a perk of being a man. You may not want to tell your wife about it.

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Brick wrote:
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Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
What do you think the point of marriage is?
Security and asset management.


All due respect, I think most people would disagree with you.

Even the standard religious based wedding vows spend most of it referencing those two things.


You and Link commenting on religion is like Bob and Frank teaching quantum physics. :lol:

I've been to a lot of religious weddings.

"for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part."
Security and asset management right there but in a nicer sounding manner.


to have, I was ok, that's something i'm in for
then they say, to hold, and I'm all like, blah

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
What do you think the point of marriage is?
Security and asset management.


All due respect, I think most people would disagree with you.

Even the standard religious based wedding vows spend most of it referencing those two things.


You and Link commenting on religion is like Bob and Frank teaching quantum physics. :lol:

Crest....you mentioned Frank's name....now he's gonna start up again
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BigW72 wrote:
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Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
What do you think the point of marriage is?
Security and asset management.


All due respect, I think most people would disagree with you.

Even the standard religious based wedding vows spend most of it referencing those two things.


You and Link commenting on religion is like Bob and Frank teaching quantum physics. :lol:

Crest....you mentioned Frank's name....now he's gonna start up again
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Frank follows me around the board like the little puppy that he is.

He will be along shortly...

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Funny that you use a dog reference seeing as how I have made you my bbitch.

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Of course you make an edit AFTER I post. :lol: :lol: :lol:

woof woof, ya fucking coward.

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You are a prophet my man. :lol:

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JORR...you and I both married a second time around and If I'm not mistaken, children were not a factor for you?
In my case....we both had kids from prior marriages, but they were all at or near emancipation. My wife and got married because we got to the point where it seemed awkward NOT being married. Again....our kids were a factor of zero.


Right. In the case of my wife and me, neither of us ever wanted to have kids. But I'm not talking about this on a personal level or about specific marriages. I think the discussion is about what the general purpose of the institution of marriage is.

Of course, my viewpoint is informed to some degree by my Catholic upbringing. How could it not be? Advertising works. But that raises the larger question about the foundations of our society and the crucial role Christianity plays in it.

It's odd that it was only a few short years ago that a progressive scion like Barack Obama didn't see the need for gay marriage, yet now that position is seen as outre and "hateful." Obama abandoned his position, likely for political reasons.

When you make those kind of changes to something as elemental to society as marriage, you are going to radically change that society. You may not notice it right away but it's happening right under your nose.


And now there are less marriages than ever. Because marriage doesn't really mean anything. Or it means whatever you want it to mean which is to say nothing at all.


Our country is constantly evolving. Not long ago my kids and Crest kids couldn't get married even if they loved one another and wanted to have 30 kids. Then radical change happened, and it became legal. Why do you want to relitigate something that was decided years ago?


We're having a philosophical conversation. Personally, I don't care one way or another. I'm almost 60 years old and I have no kids. Make whatever world you want.

But I certainly don't think that the definition of marriage that has been used since the time of the Bible can just be tossed aside without consequences. Not every change is positive.


What are the consequences? Are straights going to stop getting married bc sodomites get to too?

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