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:lol: It’s almost like the pick six didn’t happen

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:lol: It’s almost like the pick six didn’t happen



Yes, poor decision and poor throw there definitely contributed to the loss yesterday.

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 Post subject: Re: Lions at Bears
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What talent has Poles added to this team? Why are they at least exciting on offense?

Fields - Player Poles inherited
Mooney - Player Poles inherited
Kmet - Player Poles inherited
Monty/Herbert Player Poles inherited

In fact Poles has really done nothing except rip the the existing framework of a decent defense. All the gains on offense are due to players he did not acquire


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 Post subject: Re: Lions at Bears
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Not good

Velus is absolutely a huge issue and looks to be a bust of a relatively high pick.

Claypool is up in the air. he has played in 2 games. Can't rightfully judge him yet. But concerning he was not more involved yesterday.

Harry does not even really belong in this discussion. He was a lottery ticket that they used a 7th round pick on. He will be gone sooner than later.

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 Post subject: Re: Lions at Bears
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Not good

Velus is absolutely a huge issue and looks to be a bust of a relatively high pick.

Claypool is up in the air. he has played in 2 games. Can't rightfully judge him yet. But concerning he was not more involved yesterday.

Harry does not even really belong in this discussion. He was a lottery ticket that they used a 7th round pick on. He will be gone sooner than later.

Fields can't throw though. They don't even let him throw. The best WR in the league would look terrible on the Bears right now because Fields on average completes 12 passes per game for 149 yards per game.

If by the end of the year, Fields isn't targeting Claypool at least 8 times a game I think that is a question mark for Fields more than it is any receiver.

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This sentiment about "needing to beat Detroit" because they're trash is dumb. It presumes you're better than Detroit. On what basis do you assume that? Detroit is actually more talented than Chicago.

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Fields can't throw though. They don't even let him throw. The best WR in the league would look terrible on the Bears right now because Fields on average completes 12 passes per game for 149 yards per game.

If by the end of the year, Fields isn't targeting Claypool at least 8 times a game I think that is a question mark for Fields more than it is any receiver.


The throw to Kmet was right on the money


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What talent has Poles added to this team? Why are they at least exciting on offense?

Fields - Player Poles inherited
Mooney - Player Poles inherited
Kmet - Player Poles inherited
Monty/Herbert Player Poles inherited

In fact Poles has really done nothing except rip the the existing framework of a decent defense. All the gains on offense are due to players he did not acquire


He did hire the coaching staff that has allowed for those offensive players to look exciting.

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Fields can't throw though. They don't even let him throw. The best WR in the league would look terrible on the Bears right now because Fields on average completes 12 passes per game for 149 yards per game.

If by the end of the year, Fields isn't targeting Claypool at least 8 times a game I think that is a question mark for Fields more than it is any receiver.


The throw to Kmet was right on the money


Hopefully Fields won’t need guys to be that wide open.

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After spending 18 months blowing Justin Fields because he tied his shoes properly, the same media is going out of their way to try to be critical of Poles.

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Fields can't throw though. They don't even let him throw. The best WR in the league would look terrible on the Bears right now because Fields on average completes 12 passes per game for 149 yards per game.

If by the end of the year, Fields isn't targeting Claypool at least 8 times a game I think that is a question mark for Fields more than it is any receiver.


The throw to Kmet was right on the money


Hopefully Fields won’t need guys to be that wide open.

Right on the money?? Looked a little behind to me


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When a receiver is that wide open anything that makes it an easy catch and still gets you a TD is right on the money


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When a receiver is that wide open anything that makes it an easy catch and still gets you a TD is right on the money



yea

i'm sure something was racist or something tho


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That throw was fine. Kmet isn't the type of player you want to lead too much with the ball.


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Harvard Dan wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
What talent has Poles added to this team? Why are they at least exciting on offense?

Fields - Player Poles inherited
Mooney - Player Poles inherited
Kmet - Player Poles inherited
Monty/Herbert Player Poles inherited

In fact Poles has really done nothing except rip the the existing framework of a decent defense. All the gains on offense are due to players he did not acquire


He did hire the coaching staff that has allowed for those offensive players to look exciting.


Yeah, that's probably the one thing they got right, he hired the coach that hired the coordinator that may have unlocked the QB. Talent aside, the defense is still unacceptably bad. When you hire a defensive head coach you are expecting at least a certain "baseline" of defensive capabilities, and I'm not really seeing HITS on defense. Lots of players still loafing, no turnovers, etc.


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When a receiver is that wide open anything that makes it an easy catch and still gets you a TD is right on the money



yea

i'm sure something was racist or something tho


Fields was racially motivated to underthrow it to highlight that Kmet, as a white man, lacks the speed of fast twitch black receivers.


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Spiegel said St. Brown and Pettis led the WR room in snaps yesterday. That's insane if true.

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In fact Poles has really done nothing except rip the the existing framework of a decent defense. All the gains on offense are due to players he did not acquire


Yes. He blows big-time. Worse, he's self-righteous and has shown he has personal conflicts with players.

How did he even get the job? Totally unqualified (again).


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In fact Poles has really done nothing except rip the the existing framework of a decent defense. All the gains on offense are due to players he did not acquire


Yes. He blows big-time. Worse, he's self-righteous and has shown he has personal conflicts with players.

How did he even get the job? Totally unqualified (again).


Now I am re-thinking my opinion.


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Caller Bob wrote:
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In fact Poles has really done nothing except rip the the existing framework of a decent defense. All the gains on offense are due to players he did not acquire


Yes. He blows big-time. Worse, he's self-righteous and has shown he has personal conflicts with players.

How did he even get the job? Totally unqualified (again).


Now I am re-thinking my opinion.


There's not much opinion involved. It's facts.


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Fields can't throw though. They don't even let him throw. The best WR in the league would look terrible on the Bears right now because Fields on average completes 12 passes per game for 149 yards per game.

If by the end of the year, Fields isn't targeting Claypool at least 8 times a game I think that is a question mark for Fields more than it is any receiver.


The throw to Kmet was right on the money

It was. Now target Claypool a lot and see how he does.

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Fields can't throw though. They don't even let him throw. The best WR in the league would look terrible on the Bears right now because Fields on average completes 12 passes per game for 149 yards per game.

If by the end of the year, Fields isn't targeting Claypool at least 8 times a game I think that is a question mark for Fields more than it is any receiver.


The throw to Kmet was right on the money

It was. Now target Claypool a lot and see how he does.


It's not possible when he plays 19 snaps. The Bears need to see what they have in Pringle, St. Brown, and Pettis first.

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Fields can't throw though. They don't even let him throw. The best WR in the league would look terrible on the Bears right now because Fields on average completes 12 passes per game for 149 yards per game.

If by the end of the year, Fields isn't targeting Claypool at least 8 times a game I think that is a question mark for Fields more than it is any receiver.


The throw to Kmet was right on the money

It was. Now target Claypool a lot and see how he does.


It's not possible when he plays 19 snaps. The Bears need to see what they have in Pringle, St. Brown, and Pettis first.


Claypool will be free agent after the 2023 NFL season. Considering you gave up a (high)2nd round pick form him, you need to see, in very short order what you have in him, I'd say that's a much higher priority than Pringle, Pettis, and St. Brown-The-Less.


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Fields can't throw though. They don't even let him throw. The best WR in the league would look terrible on the Bears right now because Fields on average completes 12 passes per game for 149 yards per game.

If by the end of the year, Fields isn't targeting Claypool at least 8 times a game I think that is a question mark for Fields more than it is any receiver.


The throw to Kmet was right on the money

It was. Now target Claypool a lot and see how he does.


It's not possible when he plays 19 snaps. The Bears need to see what they have in Pringle, St. Brown, and Pettis first.

That should go up soon unless he can't learn a playbook like a pro.

The problem is none of our WR will look good sharing 12 receptions a game.

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Unless this O-line becomes good overnight at pass blocking all these hopes for larger amounts of throwing attempts are pie in the sky. Fields isn’t the only problem when it comes to the passing game, he’s got a defender in his lap pretty much immediately after most snaps.

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Fields can't throw though. They don't even let him throw. The best WR in the league would look terrible on the Bears right now because Fields on average completes 12 passes per game for 149 yards per game.

If by the end of the year, Fields isn't targeting Claypool at least 8 times a game I think that is a question mark for Fields more than it is any receiver.


The throw to Kmet was right on the money

It was. Now target Claypool a lot and see how he does.


It's not possible when he plays 19 snaps. The Bears need to see what they have in Pringle, St. Brown, and Pettis first.


Claypool will be free agent after the 2023 NFL season. Considering you gave up a (high)2nd round pick form him, you need to see, in very short order what you have in him, I'd say that's a much higher priority than Pringle, Pettis, and St. Brown-The-Less.


I agree

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Fields can't throw though. They don't even let him throw. The best WR in the league would look terrible on the Bears right now because Fields on average completes 12 passes per game for 149 yards per game.

If by the end of the year, Fields isn't targeting Claypool at least 8 times a game I think that is a question mark for Fields more than it is any receiver.


The throw to Kmet was right on the money

It was. Now target Claypool a lot and see how he does.


It's not possible when he plays 19 snaps. The Bears need to see what they have in Pringle, St. Brown, and Pettis first.

That should go up soon unless he can't learn a playbook like a pro.

The problem is none of our WR will look good sharing 12 receptions a game.


Yeah, Fields style of play will hurt the running backs and receivers.There will be 1 or 2 who will feast like Andrews does in Baltimore.

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