It is currently Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:03 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82190
fun enough watch with fast paced episodes. The Mcilhenny/Reynolds parts can be a bit contrived and Reynolds is always going to play cute for the cameras. I don't follow soccer but I'll watch.

It's kind of fun watching sports from a fairly disinterested owner's perspective. Usually, they would be the villain in a story but here they are the heroes. It's funny to watch them try to make sophisticated soccer people believe they are in it for the long haul, and not necessarily appreciate being treated as a character in a tv show.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:12 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79524
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
Ryan Reynolds is very high on the list of people I'd like to punch in the face.

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:05 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:05 pm
Posts: 23996
pizza_Place: Pizanos
He’s fine in small doses while pretending to be somebody else.

We’re about 8 episodes into this and I’m not sure how anybody can stand being around him for more than a couple minutes. He’s such a disingenuous twat.

_________________
Peter Clavin wrote:
Because you are stupid, maybe read some books educate yourself.
Nardi wrote:
We walk, talk, and won't shit our pants


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:22 am
Posts: 15141
pizza_Place: Wha Happen?
I've watched a bunch of them. The bits between the two of them are growing rather old.

Talk more soccer.

_________________
Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82190
City of Fools wrote:
I've watched a bunch of them. The bits between the two of them are growing rather old.

Talk more soccer.


I think the problem is that everyone sees it as a pump and dump but they think they are fooling people.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:40 pm 
Offline
1000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:14 pm
Posts: 1871
pizza_Place: Colombo's
I don't like soccer but there have been a few good documentaries. Once In A Lifetime, 4 Year Plan, and The Impossible Job were all really good and surprisingly funny. The Damned United and Victory not terrible soccer movies.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:05 am
Posts: 2953
Location: DuPage
pizza_Place: Rosati's
yeah its weird - im not particularly a soccer fan, but docs about it ill generally always check out. Probably has a lot to do with how absolutely nuts the europeans are for it

_________________
'Your AT&T Universal Card has arrived'? Oh God, Kick-fucking-ass, I got a Master Card! I don't believe it, man. Life is kinda cool sometimes.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:56 pm
Posts: 37825
Location: ...
i just wrapped this up, and had already known their fate by googling the team before I started watching.

for a long stretch, i was in a love-hate relationship with this show. on the one hand, it is a fantastic and endearing illustration of british football passion. i like that it highlights the town of wrexham, and wales in general. i've been following the welsh football team for nearly 17 years.

but there's a lot of fluff, and staged (obviously not the matches), or stagey material. i'm really growing tired of the animated interludes in docuseries. it seems like they all do it. michael moore invented it as a trope and now everyone copies that format.

i think the crown jewel of the season is "wins and losses". the opposite of that is "wromance". and the final episode is great.

it is certainly worth watching, and it's an excellent representation of what it means to love this sport, and what it means to be a part of it as a community. it reminds me of the team i follow, blackburn. and blackburn has some welsh ties to it from time to time. it's also rather close to the border.

it didn't need 18 episodes, regardless of it being short episodes (23-25 minutes, and a 40-minute finale). there were times when i'd get through an episode and be like..."i have 10 more left?"

ryan reynolds has to be a real-life demon though. something has got to be going on in his dark side...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:42 pm
Posts: 7293
Location: Land of Lincoln
pizza_Place: Tombstone
MongoMuller wrote:
I don't like soccer but there have been a few good documentaries. Once In A Lifetime, 4 Year Plan, and The Impossible Job were all really good and surprisingly funny. The Damned United and Victory not terrible soccer movies.

"We Are Sunderland" on Netflix was a fantastic soccer docu-series. Like you, I don't really care for soccer but i loved this show.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:28 am
Posts: 23794
Location: Boofoo Zoo
pizza_Place: Chuck E Cheese
The best soccer documentary is still ESPN’s The Two Escobars old 30 for 30. The Hillsborough 30 for 30 is also top notch. Neither make you want to watch them twice though.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:05 am
Posts: 2953
Location: DuPage
pizza_Place: Rosati's
KDdidit wrote:
The best soccer documentary is still ESPN’s The Two Escobars old 30 for 30. The Hillsborough 30 for 30 is also top notch. Neither make you want to watch them twice though.




That Hillsborough one was great. What a tragedy.

_________________
'Your AT&T Universal Card has arrived'? Oh God, Kick-fucking-ass, I got a Master Card! I don't believe it, man. Life is kinda cool sometimes.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:42 pm 
Offline
1000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:14 pm
Posts: 1871
pizza_Place: Colombo's
I've seen them all and I would say Once in a Lifetime is my favorite. It was edited by Paul Crowder so done in a very entertaining style and a funny story about the New York Cosmos of the 70s. Its hilarious how Warner Communications buys a club level soccer team to keep the Ertegun's from leaving Atlantic then goes out and signs Pele. :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:56 pm
Posts: 37825
Location: ...
this season has been a whole lot better as far as being about the matches and how they're getting close to being a promotable team. the growing pains have culminated into a well-oiled machine.

there are some standout episodes that are definitely going to get them golden globes/emmys: "the quiet zone" and "ballers".

it's been very touching, and entertaining. to make a non-league team look like they belong in the premiership is a great editing job.

but it says something, too, that this notts county is neck-and-neck with them *without* all of the strings that rob & ryan have pulled.

while they toiled for more than a year under their ownership in the national league...that really shouldn't be the case in L2, L1 and possibly even the Championship.

I'm through the Goalkeeper episode, where they bring Ben Foster out of retirement.

I read that they've lost millions already on this franchise...so, as it's said...they need to bump up the ladder fast.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:45 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:46 pm
Posts: 33806
pizza_Place: Gioacchino's
W_Z wrote:

ryan reynolds has to be a real-life demon though. something has got to be going on in his dark side...


There is something off about him. I liked the other guy on that show who was like a Edward Burns knock off.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:35 pm
Posts: 18197
Location: Headed to the 19th hole
pizza_Place: Kaisers
I got about 4 episodes in but haven't watched in a few months. Found it mildly entertaining I guess. Not sure if I will pick it back up again.

_________________
Flew too close to the sun on wings of pastrami


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:51 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82190
W_Z wrote:
this season has been a whole lot better as far as being about the matches and how they're getting close to being a promotable team. the growing pains have culminated into a well-oiled machine.

there are some standout episodes that are definitely going to get them golden globes/emmys: "the quiet zone" and "ballers".

it's been very touching, and entertaining. to make a non-league team look like they belong in the premiership is a great editing job.

but it says something, too, that this notts county is neck-and-neck with them *without* all of the strings that rob & ryan have pulled.

while they toiled for more than a year under their ownership in the national league...that really shouldn't be the case in L2, L1 and possibly even the Championship.

I'm through the Goalkeeper episode, where they bring Ben Foster out of retirement.

I read that they've lost millions already on this franchise...so, as it's said...they need to bump up the ladder fast.


I think ownership doesn't consider it a loss. Reynolds has a development deal from Netflix. This was a show he developed and the actual team is incidental. It probably ends up being cheaper, even with buying the team, than shooting a traditional show.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:46 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:22 pm
Posts: 2121
I enjoy watching the show, but am more interested in the behind the scenes, politics of building the new stadium, and town stuff than the actual games. After watching the first season, I started following the team through twitter, etc. So I already know the results of all the games/promotion/etc.

I also really like the general idea of promotion/relegation. Not a perfect example, because the same teams own the minor leagues, but you want to stop teams from tanking??? Imagine if the A's, Rockies, and Royals were preparing for their 2024 season in AAA.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:47 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:56 pm
Posts: 37825
Location: ...
finally finished the 3rd season. i think scaling it back to 8 episodes was a good choice, but i do wonder about the longevity of the show. it's starting to feel like it would serve the product better to have the show and season coexist, even though that would be tough to pull off.

my feeling is there should be one more season of the show; then, just make a follow-up feature film if they make the premiership, and have the happy ending concluded.

there's only so many precious people they can keep focusing on.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Welcome to Wrexham
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:40 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:22 pm
Posts: 2121
The part of the episode this season talking about the cost of the team moving up through the levels was interesting. The leagues they are in now are $10 mill-ish a season to try and get promoted. A lot of money for us, but not crazy for Always Sunny and Deadpool. However, a Premier League push would basically bankrupt them. Those owners have billions.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group