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Jack Sanborn has outplayed Roquan since the trade. He may not always know what he's doing, but the kid brings it every play.

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Bears picking 3 now. Would have choice of top non QB if Young/Stroud go 1-2


They may be able to trade down with a QB thirsty team and get a shitload of future draft capital.


Glad to see everyone drinking the Clawmaster Kool-aide and finally seeing what I have been talking about all season.

Here are the Claws thoughts on the Atlanta game.

Coaching staff showed how inexperienced they are, you were killing Atlanta with inside runs, but got away from it for some reason? Several guys on offense don't know the plays, you can see that with Claypool which makes sense, but Ebener ran the wrong play numerous times, would rather have had Darrynton Evans who is a vet, some questionable personnel decisions. The play calling at the end of the game was so questionable that it almost seemed they were purposely trying to lose, calling back to back QB runs when your QB is banged up was silly, get him an easy completion to a Montgomery or run Claypool on out routes where he can quickly put it up and let him outsize the DB, but QB runs...it just looked incompetent.

Atlanta has one stud DT, no surprise that he bitch slapped around a low paid FA all game long, most teams would have doubled him, but Grady Jarrett likely blows up your C and RG who are both barely NFL players, nothing kills an offense like inside pressure.

The DE's are embarrassing, have no idea what they are supposed to be doing on most plays because they are getting pushed five yards down field by a TE or OT, they would be better off doing what Uncle Dick Jauron did against outside running teams and put a DT at the DE position to at least hold the edge. Atlanta killed them with high school offensive plays being run by a QB who is not exactly at his peak athletically, they get dominated physically on every single play and cannot rush the passer. You saw how little they thought of the guys they had signed when they started Robinson, who at this point should be only a situational pass rusher. Expect them to invest heavily in the front 7 next year, there are some quality FA's available who would at the very least be able to hold the point of attack.

Fields looks mentally beat at times in games, as it he does not believe in the play call or knows he cannot run the play with the personnel he has in front of him, and why wouldn't he, you have a cast of bad FA's, castoffs from other teams, he is the only playmaker on the offense, only a few of the guys on offense would play on other teams, and there are a bunch of guys getting snaps that will not be on the team next year.

Does Will Anderson instantly upgrade your D if you pick him at #3, or does it makes much more sense to do what I have been saying since day one and trade down, it seems the latter is the best option.


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Maybe we will get that huge ( 200 yards !! ) passing game from Fields against the leagues third worst pass defense if theyre on the schedule . The bottom two didnt work out so well.

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Clawmaster wrote:
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Bears picking 3 now. Would have choice of top non QB if Young/Stroud go 1-2


They may be able to trade down with a QB thirsty team and get a shitload of future draft capital.


Glad to see everyone drinking the Clawmaster Kool-aide and finally seeing what I have been talking about all season.

Here are the Claws thoughts on the Atlanta game.

Coaching staff showed how inexperienced they are, you were killing Atlanta with inside runs, but got away from it for some reason? Several guys on offense don't know the plays, you can see that with Claypool which makes sense, but Ebener ran the wrong play numerous times, would rather have had Darrynton Evans who is a vet, some questionable personnel decisions. The play calling at the end of the game was so questionable that it almost seemed they were purposely trying to lose, calling back to back QB runs when your QB is banged up was silly, get him an easy completion to a Montgomery or run Claypool on out routes where he can quickly put it up and let him outsize the DB, but QB runs...it just looked incompetent.

Atlanta has one stud DT, no surprise that he bitch slapped around a low paid FA all game long, most teams would have doubled him, but Grady Jarrett likely blows up your C and RG who are both barely NFL players, nothing kills an offense like inside pressure.

The DE's are embarrassing, have no idea what they are supposed to be doing on most plays because they are getting pushed five yards down field by a TE or OT, they would be better off doing what Uncle Dick Jauron did against outside running teams and put a DT at the DE position to at least hold the edge. Atlanta killed them with high school offensive plays being run by a QB who is not exactly at his peak athletically, they get dominated physically on every single play and cannot rush the passer. You saw how little they thought of the guys they had signed when they started Robinson, who at this point should be only a situational pass rusher. Expect them to invest heavily in the front 7 next year, there are some quality FA's available who would at the very least be able to hold the point of attack.

Fields looks mentally beat at times in games, as it he does not believe in the play call or knows he cannot run the play with the personnel he has in front of him, and why wouldn't he, you have a cast of bad FA's, castoffs from other teams, he is the only playmaker on the offense, only a few of the guys on offense would play on other teams, and there are a bunch of guys getting snaps that will not be on the team next year.

Does Will Anderson instantly upgrade your D if you pick him at #3, or does it makes much more sense to do what I have been saying since day one and trade down, it seems the latter is the best option.


Mooney made a play. Fields overthrew him by 5 yards when he was wide open.

There skill teams, at this point, are no worse than league average. Mooney, Claypool, Montgomery and Kmet could all start on the majority of teams. The OL is the very bottom of the league, I'll give you that. I just don't want to give Fields excuses. He has made great progress but still has a lot of work to do.

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Of course Fields is not a complete QB right now. Are the Bears slyly tanking for a different model?

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they would be better off doing what Uncle Dick Jauron did against outside running teams and put a DT at the DE position to at least hold the edge.


AKA, they need to go back to a 3-4. Look at the Titans, outside of Jeffrey Simmons, they don't have any big names in that front 7 and yet are one of the best in the league. But sadly the Bears are married to this Tampa 2 garbage.

Watched alot of Will Anderson and while he's a physical freak, he has motor issues and is undersized. I would draft Jalen Carter and also go after Daron Payne in free agency. Pair those two together and you might start building a threat on defense.


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they would be better off doing what Uncle Dick Jauron did against outside running teams and put a DT at the DE position to at least hold the edge.


AKA, they need to go back to a 3-4. Look at the Titans, outside of Jeffrey Simmons, they don't have any big names in that front 7 and yet are one of the best in the league. But sadly the Bears are married to this Tampa 2 garbage.

Watched alot of Will Anderson and while he's a physical freak, he has motor issues and is undersized. I would draft Jalen Carter and also go after Daron Payne in free agency. Pair those two together and you might start building a threat on defense.


Do like the Payne option, get him or Poona Ford and Marcus Davenport, and you significantly upgrade your dline, also can find significant upgrades at C and OT in FA, do not like the WR group.

Jalen Carter would give you the three technique you need, question is would he still be there if you trade down a few slots to a team that has fallen in love with one of the QB's? Seattle is in need of a QB, could you trade down a slot and pick up their other 1st or and their 2nd? It would be nice to pick up draft capital because you need to pick up guys everywhere.


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They must not trust Leatherwood, why not put him in at G, must more physical player who would have matched up better with Jarrett and Anderson, Schofield got blown off the ball regularly.

It just seems they are trying to lose games at this point, but your gonna get your QB killed running QB runs behind Mustipher and Schofield who, especially in Mustipher's case, are at best #3 on your Oline depth chart.

Will be happy when this season ends and you don't have to watch tank ball, but at least roll out some of the former high draft picks that other teams have moved on from that you have taken a shot at to see if there is anything there.


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Eberflus has shown that he doesn't have a problem gently rolling the bus over Fields.

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He's rolled the bus over Jenkins, Roquan, Jones, Johnson and Fields, among others.

Meanwhile, his players are still unclear about their responsibilities within the offensive and defensive schemes, and his team overall is becoming increasingly undisciplined with each passing week.

But I'm sure that's all the fault of the players, too.

Everyone is evidently to blame for the team's failings except for the team's coaches.

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He's rolled the bus over Jenkins, Roquan, Jones, Johnson and Fields, among others.


He even tweaked Santos for missing the 56-yarder, saying "he probably wishes he had that one back." :lol: I can see Santos thinking WTF?

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He's rolled the bus over Jenkins, Roquan, Jones, Johnson and Fields, among others.


He even tweaked Santos for missing the 56-yarder, saying "he probably wishes he had that one back." :lol: I can see Santos thinking WTF?


He made tons of coaching mistakes in the game, seeing a first year coaching staff scuffle and struggle as we reach extended NFL garbage time with a bad team full of bad players, the obvious call was to run the ball on 3rd down and pick up another 3-4 yards, make Atlanta take a time out, and then Santos likely makes a 52-53 yard FG.

It must be hard to coach defense when most of your dline is getting blown off the ball snap after snap, but Atlanta beat them with high school option plays all day long. Eberflus was a defensive coordinator, why can't he get his DE's to hold the edge, or his LB's to wrap up and tackle a QB? A rookie FA is the only LB who can make an open field tackle, the rest of the fast petite guys he signed off the bottom of other teams rosters can't take on a block and can't tackle.


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Eberflus has shown that he doesn't have a problem gently rolling the bus over Fields.

what scenario is more likely? The head coach, OC were aware that the quarterback wad hurt and still called another designed run for him, or it went down exactly how they explained it?

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Eberflus has shown that he doesn't have a problem gently rolling the bus over Fields.

what scenario is more likely? The head coach, OC were aware that the quarterback wad hurt and still called another designed run for him, or it went down exactly how they explained it?


Beyond the call, I thought the execution of the 2nd play was odd. I believe Eberflus' version of events.

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I'm very interested to see how the team looks coming out of the bye week.

Right now, I think the Flus is just average and Getsy is exceptionally overrated. I don't know what to think about the DC.

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I'm very interested to see how the team looks coming out of the bye week.

Right now, I think the Flus is just average and Getsy is exceptionally overrated. I don't know what to think about the DC.


Ask Augie. They couldn't wait to run him out of Minnesota years ago.


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at the very least, I think we would have been better off hiring an offensive minded head coach

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The defense couldn't be any worse right? I thought by hiring an defensive minded head coach there would be at least a baseline capability for the defense, I guess not.


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I'm very interested to see how the team looks coming out of the bye week.

Right now, I think the Flus is just average and Getsy is exceptionally overrated. I don't know what to think about the DC.


Ask Augie. They couldn't wait to run him out of Minnesota years ago.


I think Uberflush had worn out his welcome in Indy as well. As I've said previously, if the Bears hadn't hired him as their head coach, he might not have been retained as defensive coordinator by the Colts.

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I'm very interested to see how the team looks coming out of the bye week.

Right now, I think the Flus is just average and Getsy is exceptionally overrated. I don't know what to think about the DC.


Ask Augie. They couldn't wait to run him out of Minnesota years ago.


I think Uberflush had worn out his welcome in Indy as well. As I've said previously, if the Bears hadn't hired him as their head coach, he might not have been retained as defensive coordinator by the Colts.

The Colts are a pretty terrible organization too. That's more concerning than them not liking Eberflus. At least Nagy came from a good organization. The Colts are what the Bears would be if they lucked into Peyton Manning and then thought they were an elite organization because of it.

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I'm very interested to see how the team looks coming out of the bye week.

Right now, I think the Flus is just average and Getsy is exceptionally overrated. I don't know what to think about the DC.


I don't know how the coaching staff doesn't receive at least a B this year, even an A minus.

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Worst roster in the league. No doubt a bottom 3-5 roster at best.

Losing two veterans and locker room leaders for nothing in return. Coaches rely on veterans to enforce accountability and build a positive culture.

QB who takes time to throw behind a line that can't hold a block.

Despite that, they've yet to be embarrassed in a game thus far as far as I remember. Closest thing might be the GB game. They were in the Dallas game until Montgomery threw a lateral to the Dallas defense for a TD.

That's effort which reflects coaching.

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I'm not sure how anyone can be critical of Eberflus. By all accounts, this isn't an incredible roster. The Bears have had the lead and been competitive in every game. They've left at least 3 wins on the field. Even with young talent and journeymen, this team has dramatically cut down their penalties.

Edit: They've also been able to make the proper 2nd half adjustments. In 4 years, I can recall a Nagy led team adjusting on offense or defense.

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I'm not sure how anyone can be critical of Eberflus. By all accounts, this isn't an incredible roster. The Bears have had the lead and been competitive in every game. They've left at least 3 wins on the field. Even with young talent and journeymen, this team has dramatically cut down their penalties.

Edit: They've also been able to make the proper 2nd half adjustments. In 4 years, I can recall a Nagy led team adjusting on offense or defense.


He's a defensive minded head coach and this might be one of the worst defenses in NFL history, specifically he's coached linebackers and outside of Sanborn they have been terrible. Are they talented no, but they are still NFL players and this front 7 has no clue how to play football.


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I'm not sure how anyone can be critical of Eberflus. By all accounts, this isn't an incredible roster. The Bears have had the lead and been competitive in every game. They've left at least 3 wins on the field. Even with young talent and journeymen, this team has dramatically cut down their penalties.

Edit: They've also been able to make the proper 2nd half adjustments. In 4 years, I can recall a Nagy led team adjusting on offense or defense.


He's a defensive minded head coach and this might be one of the worst defenses in NFL history, specifically he's coached linebackers and outside of Sanborn they have been terrible. Are they talented no, but they are still NFL players and this front 7 has no clue how to play football.


Statistically, you're wrong. This was a defense that was giving up less than a touchdown in the 2nd half until recently. They've given up fewer points than the offense scored in the past 3 games. They also gave the Bears a chance to win every game before Fields exploded. If you want to be critical of a unit, it should be special teams. They've probably cost the Bears more wins than the refs did by giving other teams scoring opportunities with terrible calls.

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Nas wrote:
I'm not sure how anyone can be critical of Eberflus. By all accounts, this isn't an incredible roster. The Bears have had the lead and been competitive in every game. They've left at least 3 wins on the field. Even with young talent and journeymen, this team has dramatically cut down their penalties.

Edit: They've also been able to make the proper 2nd half adjustments. In 4 years, I can recall a Nagy led team adjusting on offense or defense.


He's a defensive minded head coach and this might be one of the worst defenses in NFL history, specifically he's coached linebackers and outside of Sanborn they have been terrible. Are they talented no, but they are still NFL players and this front 7 has no clue how to play football.

Maybe he’ll be a Brian Billick and coast to a Super Bowl despite “his” side of the ball sucking.

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I don't know how the coaching staff doesn't receive at least a B this year, even an A minus.

Case:

Worst roster in the league. No doubt a bottom 3-5 roster at best.


So bottom 3-5 roster, and they currently would have the #3 pick in the draft... Really overachieving???


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The coaching seems fine I just don't understand the 95 designed runs for fields

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